Marijuana

[Felix Culpa]

Okay, people, here is an inspirational message.

 

Marijuana is one of the least damaging drugs in the world. Even less than beer and ALL forms of alcohol.

[Willieh]

Okay' date=' people, here is an inspirational message.

 

[b']Marijuana is one of the least damaging drugs in the world. Even less than beer and ALL forms of alcohol.[/b]

 

This is true.

 

Also it DOESN'T make you stupid or cause short-term memory loss. All affects of Marijuana are temporary, other than damage done to lungs, which is very minor in comparison to cigarettes... or well... car exhaust for that matter.

[☨Genocide ☨]

Ok, I'm sure this has been said many times before, but marijuana is valued at its natural state, which is much better than products with added stuff such as cigarettes (tar) and alcohol (chemicals). It is actually a better form of painkiller than Advil, Tylenol, ect. becuase your body does not build up antibodies against it and the effect will be the same every time. Now, people who do abuse it can go to rehab. If your afraid of people being high becuase it would be widely available, then you probably don't know that cough syrup, white out, glue, and scented markers are widely available, and get people high. Theres actually a story about marijuana brownies that help treat a little boys autism, look it up, its all over the news.

[Βyakuya]

Are you serious that you can make paper out of marijuana? If you regard tobbacco and smoking, this would be a good idea.

[Enrise]

Are you serious that you can make paper out of marijuana? If you regard tobbacco and smoking' date=' this would be a good idea.

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[Красивая Ведьма]

Marijuana has many uses and for those uses it should be legalized. However, I do not believe that abusing it should be legal. Just like other marketed drugs we would need to control its distribution. As far as it being used instead of trees for certain needed goods, (paper etc.) it should be used to the limit. The plant, as would most likely assume, produces only about 2.3% of the oxygen of most trees. This fact makes its destruction far less damaging to the environment. Marketing it could open many economic doors for our country, assuming you are in the U.S. or maybe another country where it is illegal.

[Gascan]

The act of smoking anything, anything at all, is stupid on a level even I cannot quite wrap my head around. There is simply no other way to put it. Inhaling smoke into your lungs is harmful. This has been proven, but it shouldn't take a second of thought to figure that out anyway. If marijuana is going to be legalized, it needs to be done so in the form of a drug that isn't smoked. They've already made such drugs for scientific testing, why couldn't they be availible to the public?

 

Aside from that, it's legal where I live. There are already roughly five times more dispenseries than generic pharmacies, and that may only be a slight exaggeration.

 

I'm pretty neutral on the legalization of marijuana. I'm very strongly against the smoking of marijuana.

[cerberus21]

The only negative effect Marijuana has is that it lines the pockets of drug dealers, thus lining the pockets of gangs (in most cases anyway. Buy it home-grown from your buddies, if you wish to avoid this problem). The only reason it is illegal is because it is a political taboo. It is less damaging than alcohol and tobacco, and equally as taxable.

[Gascan]

The only negative effect Marijuana has is that it lines the pockets of drug dealers' date=' thus lining the pockets of gangs (in most cases anyway. Buy it home-grown from your buddies, if you wish to avoid this problem). The only reason it is illegal is because it is a political taboo. It is less damaging than alcohol and tobacco, and equally as taxable.

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It's not the mirijuana itself that kills you, it's the act of smoking it that is.

[cerberus21]

Marijuana smoke does less damage than tobacco smoke. And that's been proven.

[Tabris]

That. And, in the end, why care so much about other people's lives? In the end, they are living their lives, and are not trying to invade yours; why do the charity of doing such for them?

[cerberus21]

That. And' date=' in the end, why care so much about other people's lives? In the end, they are living their lives, and are not trying to invade yours; why do the charity of doing such for them?

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I agree with this completely. Seat-belt laws, drug laws... If someone wants to put their life in a potentially dangerous situation, that's their choice.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

Time to end the argument

To all of you anti-pott people listen up


Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects, however it is interesting to note that there is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a single proven or documented cannabis-induced fatality.

The record of marijuana use encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. It is estimated that from 10 to 20 million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death.

By contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes tens of thousands of deaths each year.

Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana's LD-50 rating in test animals, without success.

Enormous doses of Delta 9 THC, All THC and concentrated marijuana extract ingested by mouth were unable to produce death or organ pathology in large mammals.

The non-fatal consumption of 3000 mg of THC by the dog and monkey would be comparable to a 154-pound human eating approximately 46 pounds of marijuana at one time. In addition, 92 mg THC produced no fatalities in monkeys. These doses would be comparable to a 154-pound human smoking at one time almost three pounds of marijuana, or 250,000 times the usual smoked dose, and over a million times the minimal effective dose, assuming 50% destruction of the THC by smoking.

Simply put, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death to this date.

At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.

In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.

Another common medical way to determine drug safety is called the therapeutic ratio. This ratio defines the difference between a therapeutically effective dose and a dose which is capable of inducing adverse effects.

A commonly used over-the-counter product like aspirin has a therapeutic ratio of around 1:20. Two aspirins are the recommended dose for adult patients. Twenty times this dose, forty aspirins, may cause a lethal reaction in some patients, and will almost certainly cause gross injury to the digestive system, including extensive internal bleeding.

The therapeutic ratio for prescribed drugs is commonly around 1:10 or lower. Valium, a commonly used prescriptive drug, may cause very serious biological damage if patients use ten times the recommended (therapeutic) dose.

By contrast, marijuana's therapeutic ratio, like its LD-50, is impossible to quantify because it is so high. In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death.

Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within a supervised routine without significant consequence, more so than any medically prescribed substances on the market to date.

By comparison, smoking pot is much safer than smoking cigarettes, one reason being that marijuana is not inherently as addictive as tobacco because it does not contain nicotine. Many more people get addicted to tobacco smoking than marijuana smoking, because the chemical reliance to keep the habit going simply isn't there for marijuana, many stop using marijuana as they get older, whereas cigarette smoking usually leads to lifetime use.

Not to mention that the act of smoking marijuana involves taking significantly less smoke into your lungs than tobacco users, as well as the fact that marijuana requires much less use in order to get the desired affect. You will hardly ever see a person who feels the need to smoke seven marijuana joints a day, by comparison cigarette use can be an entire 20-cig pack in a day. Marijuana smokers typically don't have more than one on average, and they tend to quit the habit much easier.

Marijuana is used to alleviate Cancer and HIV symptoms, as well as relieve sufferers of Influenza and the affects of Chemotherapy treatment. It's also been suggested to help those with Anorexia and Alzheimer's, and that it may even inhibit cancer cell growth. It helps those with Multiple Sclerosis with muscle use, and some have claimed success with OCD and Tourettes patients in controlling of their ticks.

Significant medical uses for Cannabis are still being researched and discovered.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0908103045.htm
http://www.webmd.com/news/20000228/m...y-brain-cancer
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/f...gs_2-13-09.php

And some alternative views that have been brought about in recent times as people have sought to fight against the War on Drugs:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4844665.shtml
http://www.alternet.org/story/71504/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti3QAlKx10c&fmt18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFmtirw5io8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayaGk0TMDc

[Survivor]

I don't agree that it should be legalized. I go to a school where marijuana is so popular there that kids waste their time smoking and not in school.

 

The other day, a junior girl told me that her sister spends so much money on marijuana that she cant even afford to eat. That is a basic right of all people! She can't even EAT because she is so addicted. Is that not wrong?

 

Anothe add-on to this is the fact that not only does marijuana make people mentally "screwed-up" for the period of time that they are high, but it also contains a dose of acid in it, which in turn affects the brain cells causing them to decrease stimulation, which reduces levels of thinking and reasoning. This does not go away, therefore causing brain damage, however small.

 

Marijuana rules peoples lives and should not be legalized because a few of you out there want to feel good from time to time. Marijuana is bad. And the person who started this thread, the comment about paper was from Family Guy, and only used so that you can get high from time to time.

 

And how many of you are actually adults and pay taxes? Probably very few. You sit here and think that taxing marijuana will help our economy, but it won't. It is just another addition to the already overwhelming amount of taxes that we already have today. And considering that even if it was legalized, it would take over schools and jobs and cause everyone to be less productive and intelligent.

 

For all of you that watch too much television out there, just shut up with your views that you get from watching Adult Swim at 11 o'clock at night. Marijuana being legalized would in no way help us.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

I don't agree that it should be legalized. I go to a school where marijuana is so popular there that kids waste their time smoking and not in school.

 

The other day' date=' a junior girl told me that her sister spends so much money on marijuana that she cant even afford to eat. That is a basic right of all people! She can't even EAT because she is so addicted. Is that not wrong?

 

Anothe add-on to this is the fact that not only does marijuana make people mentally "screwed-up" for the period of time that they are high, but it also contains a dose of acid in it, which in turn affects the brain cells causing them to decrease stimulation, [b']Yet pott is our safest drug we can grow[/b] which reduces levels of thinking and reasoning. This does not go away, therefore causing brain damage, however small.

 

Marijuana rules peoples lives and should not be legalized because a few of you out there want to feel good from time to time. Marijuana is bad. So are cigarettes. Marajuana is the safest drug yet we have a product that kills people everyday And the person who started this thread, the comment about paper was from Family Guy, and only used so that you can get high from time to time.

 

And how many of you are actually adults and pay taxes? Probably very few. You sit here and think that taxing marijuana will help our economy, but it won't. It is just another addition to the already overwhelming amount of taxes that we already have today. And considering that even if it was legalized, it would take over schools and jobs and cause everyone to be less productive and intelligent. The smartest people in my school use pott and they have a 4. GPA which is the maximum.

 

For all of you that watch too much television out there, just shut up with your views that you get from watching Adult Swim at 11 o'clock at night. Marijuana being legalized would in no way help us.

It will reduce police officer deaths in drug wars, leave one less thing to be arrested for therefore cleaning prisons, provides one more thing to sell but won't stabilize economy, helps those with mental disabilities.

 

Marajuana is one of our safest drugs. Not a single person has died from smoking pott. Pott's LCD level is so high that our current scientists can't measure it meaning it is our safest drug. Pott does not kill brain cells, read my above post and go to the links. Pott helps people with asthma and autism. Family guy gets correct facts rarely but pott is good when it is legalized

[Dark]

I don't agree that it should be legalized. I go to a school where marijuana is so popular there that kids waste their time smoking and not in school.

 

That's not a valid reason to prevent the legalization of marijuana.

 

The other day' date=' a junior girl told me that her sister spends so much money on marijuana that she cant even afford to eat. That is a basic right of all people! She can't even EAT because she is so addicted. Is that not wrong?

 

[b']First of all, it's proven that marijuana is less physically addicting than any other drug out there at the moment, and it is just barely mentally addicting (or maybe those are switched). And it is the girl's problem that she is too stupid to buy food. Why should her stupid actions affect the law?[/b]

 

Anothe add-on to this is the fact that not only does marijuana make people mentally "screwed-up" for the period of time that they are high, but it also contains a dose of acid in it, which in turn affects the brain cells causing them to decrease stimulation, which reduces levels of thinking and reasoning. This does not go away, therefore causing brain damage, however small.

 

Small brain damage is small. Sure, it can add up, but unless you smoke a few packs of marijuana a day, you won't see any major problem.

 

Marijuana rules peoples lives and should not be legalized because a few of you out there want to feel good from time to time. Marijuana is bad. And the person who started this thread, the comment about paper was from Family Guy, and only used so that you can get high from time to time.

 

It doesn't rule one's life. <_<

 

And how many of you are actually adults and pay taxes? Probably very few. You sit here and think that taxing marijuana will help our economy, but it won't. It is just another addition to the already overwhelming amount of taxes that we already have today. And considering that even if it was legalized, it would take over schools and jobs and cause everyone to be less productive and intelligent.

 

Marijuana has no correlation to intelligence. Again, losing brain cells is normal. Whack yourself on the head. You lost five brain cells. It won't cause a dumber population. If you made something like PCP legal, you'd see some problems. This is probably less potent than cigarettes, and those have been legal for awhile. And you don't understand. "Taxing" marijuana means placing an extra tax on the product. Unless you buy marijuana, you won't be affected. And those who want marijuana should be willing to help the government out financially, since the government made their "addiciting" drug legal.

 

For all of you that watch too much television out there, just shut up with your views that you get from watching Adult Swim at 11 o'clock at night. Marijuana being legalized would in no way help us.

 

Actually, it would. Everyone who you say is "hooked" on marijuana would buy the legal kind (assuming harsh penalties were imposed on illegal marijuana distribution), and the government would rake in a lot of money in taxes. Money that could help pay off our debt, fund new research, promote education, blah blah blah.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

I don't agree that it should be legalized. I go to a school where marijuana is so popular there that kids waste their time smoking and not in school.

 

That's not a valid reason to prevent the legalization of marijuana.

 

The other day' date=' a junior girl told me that her sister spends so much money on marijuana that she cant even afford to eat. That is a basic right of all people! She can't even EAT because she is so addicted. Is that not wrong?

 

[b']First of all, it's proven that marijuana is less physically addicting than any other drug out there at the moment, and it is just barely mentally addicting (or maybe those are switched). And it is the girl's problem that she is too stupid to buy food. Why should her stupid actions affect the law?[/b]

 

Anothe add-on to this is the fact that not only does marijuana make people mentally "screwed-up" for the period of time that they are high, but it also contains a dose of acid in it, which in turn affects the brain cells causing them to decrease stimulation, which reduces levels of thinking and reasoning. This does not go away, therefore causing brain damage, however small.

 

Small brain damage is small. Sure, it can add up, but unless you smoke a few packs of marijuana a day, you won't see any major problem.

 

Marijuana rules peoples lives and should not be legalized because a few of you out there want to feel good from time to time. Marijuana is bad. And the person who started this thread, the comment about paper was from Family Guy, and only used so that you can get high from time to time.

 

It doesn't rule one's life. <_<

 

And how many of you are actually adults and pay taxes? Probably very few. You sit here and think that taxing marijuana will help our economy, but it won't. It is just another addition to the already overwhelming amount of taxes that we already have today. And considering that even if it was legalized, it would take over schools and jobs and cause everyone to be less productive and intelligent.

 

Marijuana has no correlation to intelligence. Again, losing brain cells is normal. Whack yourself on the head. You lost five brain cells. It won't cause a dumber population. If you made something like PCP legal, you'd see some problems. This is probably less potent than cigarettes, and those have been legal for awhile. And you don't understand. "Taxing" marijuana means placing an extra tax on the product. Unless you buy marijuana, you won't be affected. And those who want marijuana should be willing to help the government out financially, since the government made their "addiciting" drug legal.

 

For all of you that watch too much television out there, just shut up with your views that you get from watching Adult Swim at 11 o'clock at night. Marijuana being legalized would in no way help us.

 

Actually, it would. Everyone who you say is "hooked" on marijuana would buy the legal kind (assuming harsh penalties were imposed on illegal marijuana distribution), and the government would rake in a lot of money in taxes. Money that could help pay off our debt, fund new research, promote education, blah blah blah. Actually the only reason pott sells so good is because it's illegal. look at the days of prohibition. Alcohol was illegal and selling wildly. then it was legalized. Not much anymore

[Survivor]

Yes, but do we really need any more taxes added on to what we already have? I believe that smoking anything is just a mistake all in itself. And chances are that half of these people here say this in order to be able to smoke, sell, or distribute marijuana themselves. Not because they actually care what happens to this country. And most of you probably don't pay taxes anyway, so you don't care if taxes are increased for it.

[The Dark One]

Yes' date=' but do we really need any more taxes added on to what we already have? I believe that smoking anything is just a mistake all in itself. And chances are that half of these people here say this in order to be able to smoke, sell, or distribute marijuana themselves. Not because they actually care what happens to this country. And most of you probably don't pay taxes anyway, so you don't care if taxes are increased for it.

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You're just promoting a bunch of vague generalizations that have no basis or impact on reality. Sorry kiddo.

 

I think marijuana should be legal, but I've never touched it in my life. Don't plan to. It just doesn't make sense for it to be illegal. Same thing as prohibition. If we allow SOME use, then we are able to control that use. That means we can make usage safer (like not lacing it with other, more harmful drugs, or dangerous growth or transportation conditions), we can cut down on costs (throwing all those people in prison isn't cheap), we can actually MAKE money that can go towards fighting other, more dangerous drugs (via taxation), and we can regulate exactly who can have it and how much. That means no ridiculous sheet like kids smoking it from the age of 5 and stunting their ability to mentally mature.

 

Sure, it probably isn't all that good for you. We at least know that the smoke isn't too healthy (though less harmful than cigarettes). But it's just not significantly worse than a lot of legal products, and in fact is significantly LESS harmful then quite a few legal products.

 

Much better that the government acknowledges the existence of the trade, and gets in on it, then continuing to pretend it isn't there.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

I finally realized why these people post in Debates!!

 

They want to sound genius by writing long, long and boring posts no one will readtill the end.

 

But since I'm 12 I have no idea what everyone's talking about.

 

In short, Marijuana is bad. Period. Isn't this enough?

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

I finally realized why these people post in Debates!!

 

They want to sound genius by writing long' date=' long and boring posts no one will readtill the end.

 

But since I'm 12 I have no idea what everyone's talking about.

 

In short, Marijuana is bad. Period. Isn't this enough?

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No because everything your school taught you about weed is a lie honey. Read the links or my post. My links are the back-up support and proof that I didn't pull this out of my a$$. If people are ignoring posts like mine and posting your weed reply then they look like idiots without providing counter-proof against mine.

[Gascan]

I still have no problem with intravenous forms of THC and Cannabidiol. Those I have no issue legalizing.

 

But smoking is bad. M'kay.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

I still have no problem with intravenous forms of THC and Cannabidiol. Those I have no issue legalizing.

 

But smoking is bad. M'kay.

yes it is bad, this I will agree on. Age requirement 21 anyone?

[DARKPLANT RISING]

I finally realized why these people post in Debates!!

 

They want to sound genius by writing long' date=' long and boring posts no one will readtill the end.

 

But since I'm 12 I have no idea what everyone's talking about.

 

In short, Marijuana is bad. Period. Isn't this enough?

[/quote']

 

No because everything your school taught you about weed is a lie honey. Read the links or my post. My links are the back-up support and proof that I didn't pull this out of my a$$. If people are ignoring posts like mine and posting your weed reply then they look like idiots without providing counter-proof against mine.

 

I see.

You seem to have suceeded in turning your character into a genius of the highest level.

[Ghost-O]

MARIJANE IS DANGEROUS! DON'T LEGALIZE IT! IT KILLS PEOPLE!

 

Alcohol kills you faster, even with a drinking age limit.