OmegaWave Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 [align=center] Now, ignoring the current meta. Discuss this card by itself. Without any meta in effect, how would this card fare? THEN.....discuss it in terms of meta-competitiveness. I think the card by itself is pretty decent. It negates ANY card effects that target it and if played late-game (Most likely will anyway) it has the potential to be stronger than Blue-Eyes Ultimate...though it may not be worth ditching 5 cards (The slow way using Poly) or 6 (Using Future Fusion+Dragon's Mirror) to Summon it. It's all a matter of opinion. In terms of the current meta, this card wouldn't be run most of the time unless it's in a deck completely dedicated to it. Blue-Eyes decks are typically beatdown decks and outside Skill Drain, those don't tend to fare well today. Discuss.[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 OMG Metal Gear Ray! It's a good card, use at least 1, nothing more or less for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otakon Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I Summon Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon that can negate cards that designate it as a target...what'cha gonna do about it?...I activate BTH....NOOOO! I see it as that.But like you said, if the deck is dedicated to it, it can be pretty hard to deal with.Now if only it were a semi-nomi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Corps Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What do you mean, no meta? If you're eliminating competitive play, there isn't anything to discuss about the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Crap. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombiepromking Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I like the idea of this card. It's a sizable beatstick with negation powers. Its basically the rotten hybrid seed of SDD and RDA. Now, with this in the meta, i don't think so. I think using just Kaibaman and WSoL (White Stone of Legend) to spam a 3000 beatstick with all the normal monster fixins' in the better idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Its REDD but worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Corps Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 It should of required tributing 2 "Blue Eyes" monsters to SS it, or something less time/card consuming. They totally screwed up on a usable card for the sake of making a silly movie boss monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Fu-Fu > Mirror > BEUD = This. It's not time consuming, it's just a bad card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 It's got a good effect, but it's just WAY too hard to summon. Sorry, I'd rather just go with Blue Eyes Ultimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 ITT: People use Poly, fuse 3 Blue Eyes, and then Release Ultimiate Dragon for this, only to run it into a Mirror Force/Torrential/Solemn/[insert non-targeting meta-worthy card here] OMG Metal Gear Ray!<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 It's got a good effect' date=' but it's just WAY too hard to summon.[/quote']This is why its better in Traditional. Since you also have the ability to run it with Painful Choice and Magician of Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Its REDD but worse. ^^^This. I have no idea why noobs want to use this card. It's usually weaker than the BEUD you tributed it for when it's summoned. And it's negation ability is crap as well. I doubt most competative decks use specific target destroying cards these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Its REDD but worse. ^^^This. I have no idea why noobs want to use this card. It's usually weaker than the BEUD you tributed it for when it's summoned. And it's negation ability is crap as well. I doubt most competative decks use specific target destroying cards these days.Again' date=' this is [i']why[/i] I said its better for Traditional.But only if you really wanted to show off your ability to Summon this card on the 1st turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroutTrigger Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 The card is decent, although is some what complicated to bring out but never the less it could surpass the BEUD if played correctly since it gains atk power for every dragon in your graveyard plus not to mention it can protect itself against cards that targets him so i say is a bonus but a difficult one to pull it off. if they make him any easier then he would have been ban a long time ago. however that said, is better to stay with the BEUD since at least if you need to defeat your opponent pretty fast you could always have a De-Fusion ad bring the 3 BEWD from the graveyard to the field and hit him with a combine atk of 9000 ( of course as long as you have done the BEUD fusion properly but i guess that would not be the case in this time, i use to do that heh). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 This card would be so much better if they changed the word "Ultimate" with the word "White"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroutTrigger Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 This card would be so much better if they changed the word "Ultimate" with the word "White"... i agree, it could make it much easier to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Corps Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 This card would be so much better if they changed the word "Ultimate" with the word "White"...WELL EXCUSE US MR KKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 This card would be so much better if they changed the word "Ultimate" with the word "White"...WELL EXCUSE US MR KKK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN MY WHOLE UNIVERSE WAS SHAKEN WHEN I FELL FOR YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 OMG, is this San Franciso? Anyhow, this card is only good for collections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 :\ "You can negate the effect of a Spell, Trap or Monster Effect that designate this card." By designate I thought it meant if a card effect involved it at all. Lightning Vortex: Yo Shiny, you getting blown up.BESD: LOLNO.Judgment Dragon: Imma payin 1000 Life Points....BESD:LOLNO.Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind: I herd u liek 1500.BESD: LOLNO. But as it turns out, he has to be targeted to do anything, so...LOLNO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Blar, it couldv'e been better. They screwed it up so hard by making the sacrifice BEUD instead of BEWD. And doesn't Gale's effect target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Yup. I thought Designate =/= Targeting only. I thought Designate = Everything that involved BESD in some way, shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Yup. I thought Designate =/= Targeting only. I thought Designate = Everything that involved BESD in some way' date=' shape or form.[/quote'] Is this an example in which old OCG confused somebody? =/ I'm guessing if BESD were to negate anything that involved BESD, it would say "You can negate the effect of a Spell, Trap or Monster Effect that affects this card." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Now that would be a good reason to summon it. Even though you could just Solemn or Honest it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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