Human Vs. Animal Life

[☨Genocide ☨]

Do we as humans value our lives more than animals? I've been very torn between this subject. I do eat meat, and don't think I could live without it, but I would go very far to protect my dog. I mean these people are having huge debates in congress about abortion, but this is not happening with animals being tortured for things like fur and makeup. What do you guys think? Is human life really worth more than animal?

Ok, so if you had to save one, would you rather save an unborn child or an adult animal? I know its very........douchey of me to do this, but if you just jumbled every species of animal there is (not including insects) and all the possible types of humans that the child could be born into, which would you value more? Please take a side, and not ride the fence with this one.

[Dictator7]

Wow, I can't believe your asking this. NO! All likfe is equal. there is no better life, they all have some sort of soul.

[Father Wolf]

Human Life >>>>>>>>>>>>> Animal Life.

Humans will always view animals as lower beings, it is in our nature. We kill animals to live, and Mr. Lion feels the same way about us.

 

Wow' date=' I can't believe your asking this. NO! All likfe is equal. there is no better life, they all have some sort of soul.

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i think i almost cried laughing. All life is not equal.

[CinnamonStar]

Eh... Honestly I see more huge revolts about animal abuse and PETA stuff than abortion.

 

Well to humans, human life is worth more.

To non-human animals, animal life is worth more.

:/

 

Though personally... I'd say none of these lives are worth much. We're all just here by accident, just because our parents felt like funking that moment.:/ It's not like I deny the worth of everything but I just don't believe in that great individual value people seem to praise.

 

Nonetheless since I'm a human I'd probably pick my species before the rest. Self-preservation. But that again (as well as the part above) doesn't mean that I'll go and kill everyone. I believe that animals and humans have a right to live. But that doesn't mean that I like them. ._.'

 

Your dog is again something different. He's like a friend or family member, and you probably spent a good amount of time with him, that's why he's worth more than the next pig meat on your plate.

 

As for the eating subject, since I don't eat meat myself (with a few exceptions) you might expect the opposite. But it's not a religious or diet choice, sometimes I'd like to but I just jerk as soon as I try to get certain types of meat down.:/

But even then I acknowledge that if people eat meat it's in their nature. We are omnivores, even though it's possible for some who choose it (many nowadays) to abstain from it. But even then these people/I'll say "we" need complementary stuff, alternatives or pills that fill up the iron and protein level and all.

 

Also what people seem to put aside is that animals feed on other living beings too. What do you think does a huge lion feel like when you stand in front of him?._.

Species need to consume other species in order to live. That's the sad thing in this world and why I hate it...

 

So yeah hard question... I'd say from an objective point of view (if that exists) all life might be equal. But from a subjective perception I guess in most cases, you'll end up picking your own species before the rest. Since you're part of them, unless you consider yourself some kind of Übermensch or alien...

 

But torture inflicted to anyone or anything, no matter if it's a human or animal, is a no-go.

[Eury]

I could care less for human life outside my friends and family. If I saw some guy I don't know die, I wouldn't care. I view all animals (except some insects) however, equal. They should only be killed for food, and nothing more.

[Dark]

I prefer to be a vegetarian due to the numerous health benefits.

 

But Human Life > Animal Life, IMO.

 

Animals can't make big buildings for people to live in.

 

Or can they...?

[☨Genocide ☨]

Animals can't make big buildings for people to live in.

 

Or can they...?

 

Yeah' date=' but these buildings and man created stuff really, well I can't think up a word for it, but they tear away at our earth, and cause people to turn against each other. (protests and complaints...) We are smarter than animals, but animals know how to value and utilize nature more. We do have intellegence, but look at the way we use it.

 

[b']But heres a more specific question.[/b] Would you value the life of an unborn child more, or the life of an adult animal?

[Dark]

Would you value the life of an unborn child more, or the life of an adult animal?

 

Humanity, as a whole, is a selfish society. We cannot be certain of whether this child will provied anything useful for society as a whole. Even if it did, it's highly possible that another child will provide something similar or better than what this child would provide.

 

The animal, however, can provide food and fur. In this scenario, the animal would be more valuable.

 

But you didn't specify which human, so to speak, is being compared. If you were comparing, let's say, Einstein with a frog, Einstein would obviously be more valuable.

[The Dark One]

Animals can't make big buildings for people to live in.

 

Or can they...?

 

Yeah' date=' but these buildings and man created stuff really, well I can't think up a word for it, but they tear away at our earth, and cause people to turn against each other. (protests and complaints...) We are smarter than animals, but animals know how to value and utilize nature more. We do have intellegence, but look at the way we use it.

 

[b']But heres a more specific question.[/b] Would you value the life of an unborn child more, or the life of an adult animal?

This depends on a number of factors, including the particular species of that adult animal (for judging intelligence, if such a judgement os feasible) and the development of the child.

 

However, my value for life is rooted in the desire of living things to live. If it can be judged that that animal is more capable of desiring its life than the child (ie: fetuses don't have working brains), well, the animal has more to lose.

 

Of course, there is also the issue of emotional attachment, which is not to be discounted.

 

Lastly, I would hope that the destruction of both can be avoided whenever possible. (Though I do eat meat, I think humans, in specific Americans, could get by quite comfortably (and actually much more efficiently) with much less meat than we presently do.)

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I'd value a child more, except in rare cases if that bay grows up to be someone that causes destruction and all.

 

But it's really hard, as I think some animals are a bit more important than humans (i.e. the ones that are reaching extinction)

[Tentacruel]

Human Life>Animal Life When referring to individuals.

 

However...

Animal Species>Human Comfort

 

Really sick of people making fun of the Polar Bears =(

[☨Genocide ☨]

Well, I think its selfish to care about an animal only becuase its endangered. Alot of endangered species are endangered becuase of us. It might be unlikely, but what wopuld we do if the cow went extinct? Would we look back and just be like oh, we probably shouldn't of eaten so many cows.

And with the human child or adult animal thing, I know its very........douchey of me to do this, but if you just jumbled every species of animal there is (not including insects) and all the possible types of humans that the child could be born into, which would you value more?

[Yugiohrulez!]

I think both are equal.

 

But very good question

[Overlord Lucan]

Personally I beleive that Humans should only kill/hurt animals for nessecity NOT comfort. For example cows are killed for their me which we eat, and therfor their deaths are justified. Where as something like skinning a Tiger was absolutely pointless besides to make someone feel pretty, or to have nice furniture, we have plenty of methods to acquire clothing without killing, where as with meat that is the only way. The circle of life and all that. So overall I beleive that our need to survive as a speices out weighs the life of a single cow, but one persons Wants (not needs) does not out weigh even a single life. Humans as a Species< Animals.

[Willieh]

Would you value the life of an unborn child more' date=' or the life of an adult animal?[/i']

 

Humanity, as a whole, is a selfish society. We cannot be certain of whether this child will provied anything useful for society as a whole. Even if it did, it's highly possible that another child will provide something similar or better than what this child would provide.

 

The animal, however, can provide food and fur. In this scenario, the animal would be more valuable.

 

But you didn't specify which human, so to speak, is being compared. If you were comparing, let's say, Einstein with a frog, Einstein would obviously be more valuable.

 

That's dumb.

 

Your suggesting that the person wouldn't be given a chance because we couldn't eat him, but yet the animal could be born JUST to die. The human will always be more valuable in this scenario, regardless.

[☨Genocide ☨]

So overall I beleive that our need to survive as a speices out weighs the life of a single cow' date=' but one persons Wants (not needs) does not out weigh even a single life. Humans as a Species< Animals.

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You see, but in that scenario, if an animal was being hunted, and kills the hunter to protect its life, people go out and kill the animal. Whereas, we go out and take millions of animals lives when they don't even pose a slight threat to the us, such as killing families of prairie dogs to build offices and such.

[Yasu]

Would you value the life of an unborn child more' date=' or the life of an adult animal?[/i']

 

Humanity, as a whole, is a selfish society. We cannot be certain of whether this child will provied anything useful for society as a whole. Even if it did, it's highly possible that another child will provide something similar or better than what this child would provide.

 

The animal, however, can provide food and fur. In this scenario, the animal would be more valuable.

 

But you didn't specify which human, so to speak, is being compared. If you were comparing, let's say, Einstein with a frog, Einstein would obviously be more valuable.

 

They Baby is more valuable >:3

You can sell them at really high prices.

[Dark]

Would you value the life of an unborn child more' date=' or the life of an adult animal?[/i']

 

Humanity, as a whole, is a selfish society. We cannot be certain of whether this child will provied anything useful for society as a whole. Even if it did, it's highly possible that another child will provide something similar or better than what this child would provide.

 

The animal, however, can provide food and fur. In this scenario, the animal would be more valuable.

 

But you didn't specify which human, so to speak, is being compared. If you were comparing, let's say, Einstein with a frog, Einstein would obviously be more valuable.

 

They Baby is more valuable >:3

You can sell them at really high prices.

 

I heard that an umbilical cord (or the material within it) can cure disease and stuff.

[Yasu]

Would you value the life of an unborn child more' date=' or the life of an adult animal?[/i']

 

Humanity, as a whole, is a selfish society. We cannot be certain of whether this child will provied anything useful for society as a whole. Even if it did, it's highly possible that another child will provide something similar or better than what this child would provide.

 

The animal, however, can provide food and fur. In this scenario, the animal would be more valuable.

 

But you didn't specify which human, so to speak, is being compared. If you were comparing, let's say, Einstein with a frog, Einstein would obviously be more valuable.

 

They Baby is more valuable >:3

You can sell them at really high prices.

 

I heard that an umbilical cord (or the material within it) can cure disease and stuff.

 

You can sell human fat for £9,000 (per liter).

[The Dark One]

Umbilical cords are far more important commodities than human fat. Umbilical cords contain pluripotent stem cells. They even manage to dodge the so-called moral issues raised by embryonic stem cell research.

 

Fat does not.

 

Though of course, it is now possible to induce pluripotency in a stem cell, so such harvesting may quickly become entirely unnecessary (if still rather efficient: the umbilical cord is usually thrown in the trash, and I'm sure inducing pluripotency, and the harvesting of the stem cells from various tissues throughout the human body, carries with it a significant cost.)

[Guest Welche]

In the past, the hierarchy of life has gone like this:

God>Angels>Spirits>Humans>Animals>Snakes>Devil

This means that yes, human life is above animals.

 

From a religious point of view, human life is worthless, along with all other lives. Death takes us to the 'after life'. I put after life in quotations because in religions it is the longer time and therefore should be the main part of the existence of a soul.

[Yasu]

In the past' date=' the hierarchy of life has gone like this:

God>Angels>Spirits>Humans>Animals>Snakes>Devil

This means that yes, human life is above animals.

 

From a religious point of view, human life is worthless, along with all other lives. Death takes us to the 'after life'. I put after life in quotations because in religions it is the longer time and therefore should be the main part of the existence of a soul.

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Wait... but we created god. D:

[Blaze Pyro]

Most humans do value their life over animals, however I don't. I haven't eaten meat for years.

 

I think abortion is alright as long as it will be better for the child because the mother might be too young or ill to cope with being pregnant or the parents might be too poor to give the baby a decent life.

 

I'm not going to answer the question because apparently I 'can't ride the fence' anyway why did you leave insects out, that is technically racist.

[Guest Welche]

In the past' date=' the hierarchy of life has gone like this:

God>Angels>Spirits>Humans>Animals>Snakes>Devil

This means that yes, human life is above animals.

 

From a religious point of view, human life is worthless, along with all other lives. Death takes us to the 'after life'. I put after life in quotations because in religions it is the longer time and therefore should be the main part of the existence of a soul.

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Wait... but we created god. D:

 

If you are atheist than you will say that we created god to fit our needs, but in the religious view God created us.

[Jericho]

If animals didn't want to get shot, they'd get smart and shoot us.