A matter of tactics

[Sploda]

Alright I'm going to give you a scenario. You must then tell me what you would do in the given position.

 

You are leading an army of 150,000 soldiers

10,000 are lightly armored Calvary, armed with short swords, light lances, and a buckler

10,000 are heavily armored Pikemen, armed with Pikes, Spears, and hand crossbows

30,000 are Archers, armed with shortbows and 300 arrows each

100,000 are Men-at-arms, armed with long swords, and medium sheilds

 

Your enemy commands an army of 250,000 soldiers

175,000 are heavly armored calvary, armed with short sowrds, heavy lance, mace, and shortbows. Carries 150 arrows each.

75,000 are lightly armored Infantry, armed with a mixture of pikes and bastard swords.

Enemy calvary can shoot foes accuratly at 100 yards while riding.

 

Your battlefield is on a open hill (i.e. No cover of ambushes). The area is a magic dead zone (i.e. no magic). Your charged with holding your position even in the face of defeat. Your troop morale is high due to a surplus of supplies but you will run out within 9 weeks. No help will arrive, you are alone. Your army is not trained to dig and sits at the top of the hill with the enemy surrounding its base from a safe distance.

 

I will try to find faults within your plan, if there are any I will point them out.

 

How do you handle it?

[.Leo]

By not dieing?

 

Maybe kill all there Pikemen. Focus them on healing :D

[Willieh]

Give up, allow them to occupy my country and make an alliance with a much stronger country who can bail me out.

[Sploda]

By not dieing?

 

Maybe kill all there Pikemen. Focus them on healing :D

 

Need serous plan also Magic cannot be used which means no healing.

 

 

Give up' date=' allow them to occupy my country and make an alliance with a much stronger country who can bail me out.

[/quote']

 

Also needs a serious plan, and you are the commander not the ruler. Thus that is not your decision to make.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

I'd order a jolly ol' nuking from my army's HQ.

[Sploda]

I'd order a jolly ol' nuking from my army's HQ.

 

Take a look at your troops and try again. insufficent technology.

 

Now people get serious, or don't post. I want strategies not random and annoying answers.

[.Leo]

You take a defensive approach. Don't let them see you. Shoot them down. Take down the big guys first then go for the Pikmen. If you are attacked try to protect your men to preserve your army.

[fenrir]

This is bullshit, because I'm not buying the whole 'mixed weapon varieties'. That pretty much eliminates any sort of weapon-based strategy I can think of.

 

But, presuming this is that, I'll see what I can think of. -has nothing better to do-

 

Since you're just giving us a random country, are we aloud to say that our 'country' is this 'country? Ie: My country is England, blablabla. Etc.

[Sploda]

Alright this is a single fortified city in *insert random contry name here*. It doesn't matter what contry because no side get special weapons (.ie. English Longbows), and all troops are considered to be fully trained.

Variety of weapons means it can be sword, lance, bow, mace, morning star, glaive, etc. To many to list so I said that.

[fenrir]

Since we have flat terrain here, the enemy has an advantage with his goddamn mixed cavalry. I'd push the archers back to the point where they can't shoot or get shot. With that, I'd probably have pikemen be the first 'blockade'. Seeing as I'd wait for the enemy to rush with his cavalry. (He has an advantage after all.) Of course, my forces would be waaaay back on the battlefield. Only occupying a small area. As they rush in, they'll first face a wave of pikemen. (about 500) These pikemen will be backed by my men-at-arms. Even if they defeat the wave, they will lose a lot of their cavalry. So, as their remaining cavalry rushes forward, they'll be bombarded arrows and about 500 of my cavalry.

 

So, after that I can ether charge their forces with my cavalry, or wait for them to come at me. Preferably the latter.

 

My strategy is a risk taking one, as it involves giving the enemy force an impression that I sent out most or all of my forces, thus leading them to continue their attack.

 

It's a largely gambling one. =/

[Muluck]

Are we allows to dig? Trenches, hills?

 

I am assuming we can dig trenches, so here's my plan:

 

ReferenceYou are leading an army of 10,000 soldiers

5000 are light Calvery, armed with sword and lance

1000 are Pikemen

3000 are Archers

1000 are Men-at-arms, armed with sword and small shields

 

Have some of my light calvery build a series of trenches.

The layout:

 

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Key:

_ and || are 15 feet deep 10 feet wide trenches.

= are 10 feet deep 5 feet wide trenches with pikemen.

* is a 10 feet deep 1,000 wide trench with Men at arms.

+ is a wall of stone the hides several 10 feet deep 10 feet wide trenches with calvary.

D is dirt, un trechned earth.

A is archers.

C is calvary.

[fenrir]

Are we allows to dig? Trenches' date=' hills?

 

I am assuming we can dig trenches, so here's my plan:

 

[i']ReferenceYou are leading an army of 10,000 soldiers

5000 are light Calvery, armed with sword and lance

1000 are Pikemen

3000 are Archers

1000 are Men-at-arms, armed with sword and small shields[/i]

 

Have some of my light calvery build a series of trenches.

The layout:

 

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||ADDDDDDDD=DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD=DCD=DCD=DCDA||

||ADDDDDDDD=AAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD=DCD=DCD=DCDA||

||ADDDDDDDA*********ADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD=DCD=DCD=DCDA||

||ACCCCCCC+*********+CCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDDDDDDDD=DCD=DCD=DCDA||

||ACCCCCCC+*********ADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD=DCD=DCD=DCDA||

||ADDDDDDDDAA++AAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD=DCD=DCD=DCDA||

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Key:

_ and || are 15 feet deep 10 feet wide trenches.

= are 10 feet deep 5 feet wide trenches with pikemen.

* is a 10 feet deep 1,000 wide trench with Men at arms.

+ is a wall of stone the hides several 10 feet deep 10 feet wide trenches with calvary.

D is dirt, un trechned earth.

A is archers.

C is calvary.

 

This pretty much screws any of their cavalry runs. ._.

 

Nice.

[Sploda]

If you could do trenches and hills I would have given you diggers. NO trenches.

 

@Kuro

it seems that you already know the faults of your plan but I will point them out anyway.

Your plan could work, as long as they don't have enogh intelligence and for that I commend you.

Faults in your plan

1. Enemies size, their forces would be weakened but they ca always be replaced

2. The city is unprotected, they could circle around and take the city

[Muluck]

If you could do trenches and hills I would have given you diggers. NO trenches.

 

@Kuro

it seems that you already know the faults of your plan but I will point them out anyway.

Your plan could work' date=' as long as they don't have enogh intelligence and for that I commend you.

Faults in your plan

1. Enemies size, their forces would be weakened but they ca always be replaced

2. The city is unprotected, they could circle around and take the city

[/quote']

 

Then sir, your task is impossible to complete without failure.

[fenrir]

If you could do trenches and hills I would have given you diggers. NO trenches.

 

@Kuro

it seems that you already know the faults of your plan but I will point them out anyway.

Your plan could work' date=' as long as they don't have enogh intelligence and for that I commend you.

Faults in your plan

1. Enemies size, their forces would be weakened but they ca always be replaced

2. The city is unprotected, they could circle around and take the city

[/quote']

 

Then sir, your task is impossible to complete without failure.

 

What I was going to say.

[Luna Lovegood]

Simple. We form a defensive shield wall and wait it out

[Dark Mousy]

I believe these were the situations of a real battle. Don't exactly remember which.

 

We do need the to see the enemy set up though.

[fenrir]

I believe these were the situations of a real battle. Don't exactly remember which.

 

If so, then they've ether lost or got incredibly lucky and won.

[BehindTheMask]

Send out Ditto, use Transform into the Moon.

 

[Muluck]

I believe these were the situations of a real battle. Don't exactly remember which.

 

We do need the to see the enemy set up though.

 

It doesn't matter what their set up is, even with archers you would be out numbered.

On a open plain you can't set up any tactical maneuvers.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

I'd order a jolly ol' nuking from my army's HQ.

 

Take a look at your troops and try again. insufficent technology.

 

Now people get serious' date=' or don't post. I want strategies not random and annoying answers.

[/quote']

 

Type up ALL of your assumptions or don't post. "Here're your troops and their weapons, here's your opponent and their number of troops and weapons, no magic, aside from that do whatever you want" is what you're saying. Honestly, what do you expect?

[.Requiem]

Well you have your troops protect the fortress while archers on the walls with their bows. Then before they come use small cavalry units attack from random sides to weaken the forces. :/

[-Berserker-]

Start a new game.

[Sploda]

Very well I will present a new scenario. And to please everyone I will general the exact layout of the enemy army using my imagination and knowledge of tactics. Therefore after this I expect honest tactics that deserve to be critiqued.

 

@Arc

I made this up, so if it was it is by total coincidence.

 

Edit: I have changed the scenario, I detailed the EXACT layouts of the soldiers. Now come up with your tactics.

[fenrir]

First of all, I would switch the cavalry's short swords and bucklers with the men-at-arms long swords and medium shields.

 

That gives me about 10,000 heavily armed cavalry, and 10,000 lightly armed men-at-arms. Oh, and 90,000 heavily armed men-at-arms. I'd tell my cavalry to main their lances, to use their long swords only when down from their horse or in a situation where a lance is too unwieldy.

 

First of all, I would command the archers to reside on the city walls. Spreading them out to cover the circumference of the city. I would then evenly spread out the pikemen, but command them to go a short ways forward so that they aren't against the city. The men-at-arms will be directly outside the walls to protect the city from a breaching.

 

My cavalry would be spread out among these men-at-arms.

 

I'd send a small wave of my pikemen forward in each direction where the enemy might possibly come. I'll give them 20 minutes, and if they don't return by then, I can presume that they have been killed or are in combat. I'd then focus a third of my pikemen in that direction where the previous group had gone to. The one that didn't return.

 

Basically, repeat my other strategy. If each time all my pikemen return, then I'll just repeat their actions until they've encountered the enemy.