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You know what really pisses me off? People who are ignorant and enjoy it.

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Ignorance is bliss' date=' mon amie.

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That's exactly what I mean. People like that piss me off to no end. I mean, what's the point of living in a civilized society if you aren't going to even try to understand the world around you? Just go live with a tribe in Africa, and leave modern life to those who deserve it.

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I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.

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I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death' date=' while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.

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That was a good movie. I really need to watch it again sometime.

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While I agree with you Pudding' date=' I think that most people prefer ignorance, because they are "happy."

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I'd, personally, rather be happy than intelligent.

 

Why does it need to be mutually exclusive? That's what I'm getting at. Why is it that people think we can't be knowledgeable (which isn't the same as intelligent) and happy? There isn't a reason. People are just lazy and make up excuses like, "I'm happier not knowing" rather than take the time to find it out.

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While I agree with you Pudding' date=' I think that most people prefer ignorance, because they are "happy."

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I'd, personally, rather be happy than intelligent.

 

Why does it need to be mutually exclusive? That's what I'm getting at. Why is it that people think we can't be knowledgeable (which isn't the same as intelligent) and happy? There isn't a reason. People are just lazy and make up excuses like, "I'm happier not knowing" rather than take the time to find it out.

 

I'm just saying if the two are exclusive, I would choose happiness.

 

I'll agree that happiness and knowledge have nothing to do with each other, however.

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While I agree with you Pudding' date=' I think that most people prefer ignorance, because they are "happy."

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I'd, personally, rather be happy than intelligent.

 

Why does it need to be mutually exclusive? That's what I'm getting at. Why is it that people think we can't be knowledgeable (which isn't the same as intelligent) and happy? There isn't a reason. People are just lazy and make up excuses like, "I'm happier not knowing" rather than take the time to find it out.

 

I'm just saying if the two are exclusive, I would choose happiness.

 

I'll agree that happiness and knowledge have nothing to do with each other, however.

 

That's like saying that you would chose breathing over being able to fly. Totally pointless in the scope of the topic. We aren't talking about stupid hypotheticals, we're talking about the real world, where real people seem to claim that knowledge and happiness are mutually exclusive. And that pisses me off.

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Ignorance is bliss' date=' [b']where Foley is wise[/b].

 

Fixed.

And the situation(s) that CP is talking about, don't apply to that statement.

And I share his frustration.

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Knowledge can also be bliss. Being able to know things about the world around you does not mean that it is horrible. Although there are horrifying things in this world, there are fantastic wonders of life as well. Knowing this, you can have more than a happiness conjured by being trapped inside a false fantasy. Not only could you find happiness in knowledge, you can find discovery. Buddha would've never done what he had done, and perhaps the world could've been different.

 

Buddha would've most likely wanted to escape the sheltered life that his parents provided, and see what he saw, and realize what he realized, and done what he had done.

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While I agree with you Pudding' date=' I think that most people prefer ignorance, because they are "happy."

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I'd, personally, rather be happy than intelligent.

 

Why does it need to be mutually exclusive? That's what I'm getting at. Why is it that people think we can't be knowledgeable (which isn't the same as intelligent) and happy? There isn't a reason. People are just lazy and make up excuses like, "I'm happier not knowing" rather than take the time to find it out.

 

I'm just saying if the two are exclusive, I would choose happiness.

 

I'll agree that happiness and knowledge have nothing to do with each other, however.

 

That's like saying that you would chose breathing over being able to fly. Totally pointless in the scope of the topic. We aren't talking about stupid hypotheticals, we're talking about the real world, where real people seem to claim that knowledge and happiness are mutually exclusive. And that pisses me off.

 

Seeing as this appears to be aimed at religion (not saying that it necessarily is), I'll go ahead and say that Religion does make these two mutually exclusive in a lot of situations. For example, somebody is a depressed alcoholic, but turns to God to find happiness. Later in life, after God/religion being his only meaning in life, he comes to realize that there is no God and his life has been a complete waste. Along with this, he realizes that whatever he does do with his life is utterly pointless... considering the fact he will just stop existing and everything he's done will be forgotten.

 

In this situation, I would rather be happy believing in God than hopeless believing in nothing.

 

That's all I'm saying.

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For the love of Christ... Spoilers!

 

Done. And lol @ awesome66 trying to be intelligent.

 

I know I'm not intelligent, I know that I do not know very much. I'm just saying what I think, without regard for what you or anyone else on this site think of me for thinking so. Why would I try to be intelligent for people I will never meet? For all you know, I could be every bit as intelligent as you.

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While I agree with you Pudding' date=' I think that most people prefer ignorance, because they are "happy."

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I'd, personally, rather be happy than intelligent.

 

Why does it need to be mutually exclusive? That's what I'm getting at. Why is it that people think we can't be knowledgeable (which isn't the same as intelligent) and happy? There isn't a reason. People are just lazy and make up excuses like, "I'm happier not knowing" rather than take the time to find it out.

 

I'm just saying if the two are exclusive, I would choose happiness.

 

I'll agree that happiness and knowledge have nothing to do with each other, however.

 

That's like saying that you would chose breathing over being able to fly. Totally pointless in the scope of the topic. We aren't talking about stupid hypotheticals, we're talking about the real world, where real people seem to claim that knowledge and happiness are mutually exclusive. And that pisses me off.

 

Seeing as this appears to be aimed at religion (not saying that it necessarily is), I'll go ahead and say that Religion does make these two mutually exclusive in a lot of situations. For example, somebody is a depressed alcoholic, but turns to God to find happiness. Later in life, after God/religion being his only meaning in life, he comes to realize that there is no God and his life has been a complete waste. Along with this, he realizes that whatever he does do with his life is utterly pointless... considering the fact he will just stop existing and everything he's done will be forgotten.

 

In this situation, I would rather be happy believing in God than hopeless believing in nothing.

 

That's all I'm saying.

 

He won't just "stop existing". Everything that he was will live on until the very end of the universe. Every atom that made up him had been used before in countless ways and will be used again in countless ways. A part of him will always live on in the cosmos.

 

As for whatever he does with his life being pointless because he will be forgotten: bull. He would at least be remembered by those that loved him.

 

And in any case, believing in a higher power is not mutually exclusive with seeking knowledge about the world. Why it always has to end up being that way I'll never know, because there isn't anything that makes it so, as long as you're smart and realize that quite a lot of holy books aren't meant to be taken literally.

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A man is in a library, and he picks up a book on physics, he says, "I already know enough about physics", and puts it down. He walks around the library some more, and picks up a book on history, he says "I already know enough about history", and puts it down. This goes on for a while, and finally, one of the workers in the library, who has been watching him doing this says "why are leaving all the books behind? Do you think you know everything?", the man responds, "I don't need to know everything, I just need to know enough".

Chaos Pudding, you seem to be annoyed, if not angry, and those who you deem have no interest in knowledge, but yet, your determinant for interest is an internal motivation to learn more constantly. Not everyone has that, and expecting everyone to is incredibly unrealistic. There are those who know a large amount of information on physics, there are those who know history, but trying to say they are ignorant, without a determinant that takes into account existing knowledge, without taking into account the things a person focuses on, the studies they do in fact take part in, is ignorant in itself.

I would suggest you spend a bit less time caring about other people's intellect, and a bit more time caring about yours.

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While I agree with you Pudding' date=' I think that most people prefer ignorance, because they are "happy."

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I'd, personally, rather be happy than intelligent.

 

Why does it need to be mutually exclusive? That's what I'm getting at. Why is it that people think we can't be knowledgeable (which isn't the same as intelligent) and happy? There isn't a reason. People are just lazy and make up excuses like, "I'm happier not knowing" rather than take the time to find it out.

 

I'm just saying if the two are exclusive, I would choose happiness.

 

I'll agree that happiness and knowledge have nothing to do with each other, however.

 

That's like saying that you would chose breathing over being able to fly. Totally pointless in the scope of the topic. We aren't talking about stupid hypotheticals, we're talking about the real world, where real people seem to claim that knowledge and happiness are mutually exclusive. And that pisses me off.

 

Seeing as this appears to be aimed at religion (not saying that it necessarily is), I'll go ahead and say that Religion does make these two mutually exclusive in a lot of situations. For example, somebody is a depressed alcoholic, but turns to God to find happiness. Later in life, after God/religion being his only meaning in life, he comes to realize that there is no God and his life has been a complete waste. Along with this, he realizes that whatever he does do with his life is utterly pointless... considering the fact he will just stop existing and everything he's done will be forgotten.

 

In this situation, I would rather be happy believing in God than hopeless believing in nothing.

 

That's all I'm saying.

 

He won't just "stop existing". Everything that he was will live on until the very end of the universe. Every atom that made up him had been used before in countless ways and will be used again in countless ways. A part of him will always live on in the cosmos.

 

As for whatever he does with his life being pointless because he will be forgotten: bull. He would at least be remembered by those that loved him.

 

And in any case, believing in a higher power is not mutually exclusive with seeking knowledge about the world. Why it always has to end up being that way I'll never know, because there isn't anything that makes it so, as long as you're smart and realize that quite a lot of holy books aren't meant to be taken literally.

 

He will stop existing. His life will be over, his brain will be dead, his consciousness will be gone. And his family will also meet this fate.

 

And, to be blunt, Religion is mutually exclusive from certain knowledge about the world. For example, the world could have never flooded over completely because there isn't enough water. The concept of Hell/heaven doesn't make any sense, seeing as God (being omniscient) would have known our fate before our existence, meaning he would have made us just to put us in hell/heaven. etc...

 

All I'm saying is that some people are happier without knowledge. If their lack of knowledge makes them happy, why should they change? Happiness is the point of life. Without happiness, life is pointless.

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For the love of Christ... Spoilers!

 

Done. And lol @ awesome66 trying to be intelligent.

 

I know I'm not intelligent' date=' I know that I do not know very much. I'm just saying what I think, without regard for what you or anyone else on this site think of me for thinking so. Why would I try to be intelligent for people I will never meet? For all you know, I could be every bit as intelligent as you.

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What you said would be classified as "Preaching to the Choir". Ie: Holding no value to this discussion.

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