Guest Zeonark Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 [align=center][spoiler=Lore]This card is also treated as a Fiend-Type monster. As long as this card is face-up on the field, cards cannot be sent to the Graveyard from either players' decks. Also, only 3 monsters can be removed from play by a card effect. This card cannot be destroyed as a result of battle and you take no battle damage involving this card. OH GOD YES. THIS CARD IS SO INSTANTLY ON THE BANLIST. Not ONLY do you get to lock Judgment Dragon off the field, you also wear down WHITE-HORNED DRAGON'S effect! IT'S INCREDIBLY AWESOME. Fix the OCG errors. And then love it and print it out to use against your friends. Image Credit = YCM Archives. Idea from XP_Lulz.Yes you. <3 Rate/Hate/Comment. Whatever.[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Maybe banned not but at least semi or limited! good card 8.7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 good to see something beat Judgment Dragon, about time since he's so OPed This would certainly be restricted if it was ever real 8.8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killey Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I think your being too harsh on your own card as it isn't something that would be banned. First, it's an 1000 ATK monster that requires LP cost to keep on the field. It's not hard to attack over this card or even destroy it with a card effect. Second, White Horned Dragon RFG's spell cards not monster cards and even then how is White-Horned Dragon a threat? It's not used in any meta-game deck. Dark Armed Dragon comes into play with 3 targets to remove to destroy 3 cards which is usually good enough to clear the field for game so this really doesn't effect him. It would be incredibly hard to keep this guy on the field long enough to make an impact on a LS deck. Prohibition has a better chance at locking out Judgment Dragon then this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeonark Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 good to see something beat Judgment Dragon' date=' about time since he's so OPed This would certainly be restricted if it was ever real 8.8/10[/quote'] Thanks Ragna.Of course it would be restricted, considering what it's stopping. xD I think your being too harsh on your own card as it is something that would be banned. Caps lock is a joke bro. First' date=' it's an 1000 ATK monster that requires LP cost to keep on the field. It's not hard to attack over this card or even destroy it with a card effect. Second, White Horned Dragon RFG's spell cards not monster cards and even then how is White-Horned Dragon a threat? It's not used in any meta-game deck. Dark Armed Dragon comes into play with 3 targets to remove to destroy 3 cards which is usually good enough to clear the field for game so this really doesn't effect him.[b']Still. Anti-Meta decks can prove useful. One day, White-Horned Dragon might destroy us all. And I completely forgot what it removed. Exactly, DAD is unharmed because it is less broken than JD. <3[/b] It would be incredibly hard to keep this guy on the field long enough to make an impact on a LS deck. Prohibition has a better chance at locking out Judgment Dragon then this card. So should I up the ATK or add a effect where it can't get destroyed? Jeez, I always either underpower or leave something out in these cards I'm making now. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_Lulz Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 good to see something beat Judgment Dragon' date=' about time since he's so OPed This would certainly be restricted if it was ever real 8.8/10[/quote'] Thanks Ragna.Of course it would be restricted, considering what it's stopping. xD I think your being too harsh on your own card as it is something that would be banned. Caps lock is a joke bro. First' date=' it's an 1000 ATK monster that requires LP cost to keep on the field. It's not hard to attack over this card or even destroy it with a card effect. Second, White Horned Dragon RFG's spell cards not monster cards and even then how is White-Horned Dragon a threat? It's not used in any meta-game deck. Dark Armed Dragon comes into play with 3 targets to remove to destroy 3 cards which is usually good enough to clear the field for game so this really doesn't effect him.[b']Still. Anti-Meta decks can prove useful. One day, White-Horned Dragon might destroy us all. And I completely forgot what it removed. Exactly, DAD is unharmed because it is less broken than JD. <3[/b] It would be incredibly hard to keep this guy on the field long enough to make an impact on a LS deck. Prohibition has a better chance at locking out Judgment Dragon then this card. So should I up the ATK or add a effect where it can't get destroyed? Jeez, I always either underpower or leave something out in these cards I'm making now. xD Make the ATK 1500 and make the cost 400 instead. Oh, and I still <3 this card. Just cuz it's anti-lightlords. 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeonark Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 good to see something beat Judgment Dragon' date=' about time since he's so OPed This would certainly be restricted if it was ever real 8.8/10[/quote'] Thanks Ragna.Of course it would be restricted, considering what it's stopping. xD I think your being too harsh on your own card as it is something that would be banned. Caps lock is a joke bro. First' date=' it's an 1000 ATK monster that requires LP cost to keep on the field. It's not hard to attack over this card or even destroy it with a card effect. Second, White Horned Dragon RFG's spell cards not monster cards and even then how is White-Horned Dragon a threat? It's not used in any meta-game deck. Dark Armed Dragon comes into play with 3 targets to remove to destroy 3 cards which is usually good enough to clear the field for game so this really doesn't effect him.[b']Still. Anti-Meta decks can prove useful. One day, White-Horned Dragon might destroy us all. And I completely forgot what it removed. Exactly, DAD is unharmed because it is less broken than JD. <3[/b] It would be incredibly hard to keep this guy on the field long enough to make an impact on a LS deck. Prohibition has a better chance at locking out Judgment Dragon then this card. So should I up the ATK or add a effect where it can't get destroyed? Jeez, I always either underpower or leave something out in these cards I'm making now. xD Make the ATK 1500 and make the cost 400 instead. Oh, and I still <3 this card. Just cuz it's anti-lightlords. 9/10 Fine jerk. B(Lol. Jk. I only dropped the cost by 200 to add a effect. Now you can only destroy it with a card effect. HAPPY? D:< Fix'd. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killey Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Caps lock is a joke bro. Still. Anti-Meta decks can prove useful. One day' date=' White-Horned Dragon might destroy us all. And I completely forgot what it removed. Exactly, DAD is unharmed because it is less broken than JD. <3 So should I up the ATK or add a effect where it can't get destroyed? Jeez, I always either underpower or leave something out in these cards I'm making now. xD[/quote'] I'm glad you were joking because there are many members on this forum who would think this card is ban worthy. Dark Armed Dragon decks was far more offensive than LS Decks that focused on Judgment Dragon (despite JD having a more broken effect). It was far faster and more consistent getting Dark Armed Dragon out on the field in comparison to Judgment Dragon and you didn't run the risk of milling JD from your Deck. Dark Armed Dragon alone wasn't guaranteeing the win it was the combination of DAD's field clearing capabilities and swarming with RFG monsters (4-5 formats ago) or Synchro Monsters (current format) that did. Both deserve an equal amount of hate though. :) Current anti-meta decks focus on locking out your opponent's Special Summoning capabilities as well as their ability to manipulate their Graveyard. That's why cards like Thunder King Raioh, Light/Shadow Imprisoning Mirror, Royal Oppression or Necrovalley are used in an Anti-Meta deck. I don't think this card should require a cost to keep it on the field. The ability is not so broken that it requires a draw back to it so it would be okay to remove the cost. To me this card is similar to something like G.B Hunter or Thunder King Raioh and neither of those cards are on the forbidden list despite having high stats and good anti-meta effects. Honestly, this card would be perfectly fine with high stats like 1900 ATK OR 2000 DEF. This card hurts you as well since you are under those restrictions and Dark decks have an equal amount of cards that send cards from their deck to their graveyard. It would be a good card to use in an anti-meta deck and there's nothing wrong with a good anti-meta deck build as they have the tendency to lose to random decks due to their focus on dealing with meta decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 With the last effect of no taking battle damage makes it OPed! :P lol 9/10 with the new changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_Lulz Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 good to see something beat Judgment Dragon' date=' about time since he's so OPed This would certainly be restricted if it was ever real 8.8/10[/quote'] Thanks Ragna.Of course it would be restricted, considering what it's stopping. xD I think your being too harsh on your own card as it is something that would be banned. Caps lock is a joke bro. First' date=' it's an 1000 ATK monster that requires LP cost to keep on the field. It's not hard to attack over this card or even destroy it with a card effect. Second, White Horned Dragon RFG's spell cards not monster cards and even then how is White-Horned Dragon a threat? It's not used in any meta-game deck. Dark Armed Dragon comes into play with 3 targets to remove to destroy 3 cards which is usually good enough to clear the field for game so this really doesn't effect him.[b']Still. Anti-Meta decks can prove useful. One day, White-Horned Dragon might destroy us all. And I completely forgot what it removed. Exactly, DAD is unharmed because it is less broken than JD. <3[/b] It would be incredibly hard to keep this guy on the field long enough to make an impact on a LS deck. Prohibition has a better chance at locking out Judgment Dragon then this card. So should I up the ATK or add a effect where it can't get destroyed? Jeez, I always either underpower or leave something out in these cards I'm making now. xD Make the ATK 1500 and make the cost 400 instead. Oh, and I still <3 this card. Just cuz it's anti-lightlords. 9/10 Fine jerk. B(Lol. Jk. I only dropped the cost by 200 to add a effect. Now you can only destroy it with a card effect. HAPPY? D:< Fix'd. Lol. Now I <3 even more. And, yes, I am indeed happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeonark Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Caps lock is a joke bro. Still. Anti-Meta decks can prove useful. One day' date=' White-Horned Dragon might destroy us all. And I completely forgot what it removed. Exactly, DAD is unharmed because it is less broken than JD. <3 So should I up the ATK or add a effect where it can't get destroyed? Jeez, I always either underpower or leave something out in these cards I'm making now. xD[/quote'] I'm glad you were joking because there are many members on this forum who would think this card is ban worthy. Dark Armed Dragon decks was far more offensive than LS Decks that focused on Judgment Dragon (despite JD having a more broken effect). It was far faster and more consistent getting Dark Armed Dragon out on the field in comparison to Judgment Dragon and you didn't run the risk of milling JD from your Deck. Dark Armed Dragon alone wasn't guaranteeing the win it was the combination of DAD's field clearing capabilities and swarming with RFG monsters (4-5 formats ago) or Synchro Monsters (current format) that did. Both deserve an equal amount of hate though. :)YOU CRAZY. JUDGMENT DRAGON DESERVES SO MUCH MORE HATE THAN DARK ARMED DRAGON. Current anti-meta decks focus on locking out your opponent's Special Summoning capabilities as well as their ability to manipulate their Graveyard. That's why cards like Thunder King Raioh, Light/Shadow Imprisoning Mirror, Royal Oppression or Necrovalley are used in an Anti-Meta deck. Original Combos are possible o: But let's not get into that. I don't think this card should require a cost to keep it on the field. The ability is not so broken that it requires a draw back to it so it would be okay to remove the cost. To me this card is similar to something like G.B Hunter or Thunder King Raioh and neither of those cards are on the forbidden list despite having high stats and good anti-meta effects. Honestly, this card would be perfectly fine with high stats like 1900 ATK OR 2000 DEF. This card hurts you as well since you are under those restrictions and Dark decks have an equal amount of cards that send cards from their deck to their graveyard. It would be a good card to use in an anti-meta deck and there's nothing wrong with a good anti-meta deck build as they have the tendency to lose to random decks due to their focus on dealing with meta decks.So take off the cost and boost the ATK to somewhere around 1900 and the DEF to around 2000? Okay. I'll boost the stats and remove the costs. I get good rating then? :'D With the last effect of no taking battle damage makes it OPed! :P lol 9/10 with the new changes I somehow got that .3 rating out of you by making this card OP'd....Lol. good to see something beat Judgment Dragon' date=' about time since he's so OPed This would certainly be restricted if it was ever real 8.8/10[/quote'] Thanks Ragna.Of course it would be restricted, considering what it's stopping. xD I think your being too harsh on your own card as it is something that would be banned. Caps lock is a joke bro. First' date=' it's an 1000 ATK monster that requires LP cost to keep on the field. It's not hard to attack over this card or even destroy it with a card effect. Second, White Horned Dragon RFG's spell cards not monster cards and even then how is White-Horned Dragon a threat? It's not used in any meta-game deck. Dark Armed Dragon comes into play with 3 targets to remove to destroy 3 cards which is usually good enough to clear the field for game so this really doesn't effect him.[b']Still. Anti-Meta decks can prove useful. One day, White-Horned Dragon might destroy us all. And I completely forgot what it removed. Exactly, DAD is unharmed because it is less broken than JD. <3[/b] It would be incredibly hard to keep this guy on the field long enough to make an impact on a LS deck. Prohibition has a better chance at locking out Judgment Dragon then this card. So should I up the ATK or add a effect where it can't get destroyed? Jeez, I always either underpower or leave something out in these cards I'm making now. xD Make the ATK 1500 and make the cost 400 instead. Oh, and I still <3 this card. Just cuz it's anti-lightlords. 9/10 Fine jerk. B(Lol. Jk. I only dropped the cost by 200 to add a effect. Now you can only destroy it with a card effect. HAPPY? D:< Fix'd. Lol. Now I <3 even more. And, yes, I am indeed happy. You better be. >3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 nope.this will not affect lightsworn the slightest. discard =/= send and thats that. change discard to send and everything is all good. 8.8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killey Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Maybe you just saw more JD play in your local area but I saw more DAD play in general so for my personal preferences I find Dark Armed Dragon far more offensive than JD. Plus, DAD is limited while JD is semi-limited so it says how much more effective one card is then the other. Both cards are offensive in general so I'm not going to fret the minor details. Original combos are always possible in any format but right now what's getting the most abuse is fast field swarming through special summons which is usually consistent with graveyard manipulation and until that changes the best anti-meta will always be preventing your opponent from doing exactly that. Even LS would get hit with something that prevents the manipulation of their Graveyard like Lumina or bringing back a milled JD. Notice how I capitalized "or" when I was referring to the stats meaning boost one or the other not both. I'd probably lower the defense to something like 400-700. nope.this will not affect lightsworn the slightest.discard =/= sendand thats that.change discard to send and everything is all good. Yes, completely didn't realize this since LS say send cards from the top of their deck to the grave the effect wouldn't work at all at controlling their pacing. Even after all of these changes though I don't think this card alone would control LS as much as you think it would but it's a nice opening gambit. Honest can allow any LS to attack over it, Wulf and Jain can attack over it, Celestia, Ryko, and JD can blow it up. If you can protect it in the battle phase then this card with Light Imprisoning Mirror and Royal Oppression would particularly be effective against LS. Splashing this into a Gravekeeper build would be effective as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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