aussj4link Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I normally run non-beat down decks like Exodia, Direct Damage, and Deck Death decks, but the other night I decided to try a beat down deck, after going through all my cards I decided to try to half ass a tribute beat down deck, scary enough it works, it works a little too well in fact. So far out of playing several people with decks like Lightsworns, Six Samurais, Blackwings and various other beat downs I've had quite literally a 95% win rate. Have in mind I'm just as baffled as you are as to how this crappy throw together is working so well. Heres the cards: Monsters Non tributes Penguin SoldierShield WarriorExploder DragonMarshmallonSwarm of ScarabsWall of IllusionFortress WarriorObsidian DragonDark ResonatorSpirit ReaperThe Calculator Tributes Guardian SphinxEvil Hero Malicious EdgeChthonian Emperor DragonKuraz The Light MonarchJinzoSaber BeetleVanity's FiendThe TrickyDark NephthysArcana Force XIV - TemperanceDark Ruler Ha DesSummoned SkullGorz The Emissary of DarknessGilford the LightningPhantom Beast Rock-Lizard Each monster I only have one of. Spells Ribbon of RebirthMausoleum of the Emperor x3Fires of DoomsdayCard DestructionSoul Exchange (I want to get another one of these so bad they are so nice in this deck)Spell Economics x2Swords of Revealing LightMystical Space TyphoonBrain Control Traps Compulsory Evacuation DeviceTrap holeZoma The SpiritOrdeal of a TravelerBottomless Trap HoleTorrential TributeCall of the HauntedMichizureShadow SpellWabaku Only 1 of each trap. Total of 48 Cards What I've found is that this deck mostly works by swarming the field with high level monsters. I know it has 8 cards over the recommended amount but even still its working so very nicely. Mostly games I start with a Mausoleum of the Emperor and a nice tribute along with some trap or something to back it up. I'm paying quite a bit of life so when I get spell economics this strategy works very very well. Most decks I take on only have maybe 1 or 2 tributes so most of the time Mausoleum of the Emperor doesn't help my opponent very much. I'm sure there is some nasty anti to this deck that would hand my ass on a silver plate to me, but right now, I'm on a pretty damn good roll with it. I was wondering if anyone knew how I might be able to improve this deck, or what you think of it. I looked through all my cards and was thinking about getting some feedback on it before I alter it at all. Thanks for reading lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 needs a better themed beatdown deck. You have to many themes here. and some monster aren't beat down monsters. do want Vanilla Beatdown, Skill drain beatdown or Regular beatdown. Warrior beatdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 There's not really a theme at all to it. Its mostly just random power lol, a lot of things in this deck actually benefit each other nicely, when I made this deck all I was looking for was ways to get out good strong tributes. Like I said I'm not aiming for anything at all, I just put in what I believed would work lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 2 words. slow and randomHaving 1 of each monster screams inconsistent. Some of your monsters are pretty poor, and the fact that the people you faced couldn't get rid of the monster you had means they were bad.I have no idea how to help you with your current build. If it works, it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Oh trust me, they were getting rid of my monsters, that was no prob, it was just that next turn I had 3 more to replace it and take back the field (most of the time I could end the duel in 3-5 turns) the deck sounds slow but most games I'm putting out 2-3 strong monsters per turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I for some reason don't buy that. I had a deck like this once. I got some wins, but mostly loses. Besides if this was a beatdown deck, why are all your lower level monster underpowered?I can start by eliminating your traps. Just record it here for now so when you get those cards, you can remember to put them in your deck. Trap line up should be:Bottomless trap Hole x2Call of the Haunted dark bribe x2Threatening Roars x3 Something like that.Side Complusory and Waboku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Rock Lizard is bad. Remove it. Spell Economics doesn't work with Mausoleum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm sorry it sounds like I'm lying, but at least you gave me some suggestions for my traps, thanks for that. I would like to put in some dark bribes but unfortunately atm I have none in my throw away cards (thats what this deck was built with) same with Waboku vs Threatening Roar, I just don't have them atm. But it gives me something to look for thanks. My non tributes are under powered because there not the power, there the stand there take the hit so I can sack there ass lol. Calculator is about this only low level I attack with. In the past Guardian Sphinx has never been more difficult to use, but I find in this deck, I'm clearing fields with him all the time, Its proved its worth to me on several occasions since I built this deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Try a Monarch deck if you want a "Tribute deck" as you call it. Seriously, though, you need a theme. I just don't see your deck winning very much. You say you faced Lightsworns? A LS deck would probably OTK you or dump double JD on you within 5-10 turns. Blackwings would also swarm all over you before you could do anything. The decks you faced probably were not very well built. If you want a Monarch deck, I can give you one, but I'm begging you: PICK A THEME!! And don't use a monster type/attribute as a theme. Themes are more specific than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 You do need a theme though. this forum you can post changes here and when you do get the cards in real life you can change them.one copy of cards isn't going to do you much good. Now what type of theme do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Rock Lizard is bad. Remove it. Spell Economics doesn't work with Mausoleum. Actually Ive found Rock-Lizard to be quite useful' date=' I kill something with it, that's 500 damage, then if my opponent gets rid of it because its too strong for his low level monsters he takes 2000 damage, its kind of a screw you if you do a screw you if you don't lol. I gotta look into spell economics to see what the rules are, its sounds right to me, but of course so does using a Mask of Restrict to halt a Synchro summon sounds right to me...[hr']Try a Monarch deck if you want a "Tribute deck" as you call it. Seriously' date=' though, you need a theme. I just don't see your deck winning very much. You say you faced Lightsworns? A LS deck would probably OTK you or dump double JD on you within 5-10 turns. Blackwings would also swarm all over you before you could do anything. The decks you faced probably were not very well built. If you want a Monarch deck, I can give you one, but I'm begging you: PICK A THEME!! And don't use a monster type/attribute as a theme. Themes are more specific than that.[/quote'] sigh... themes... You wanna know why I don't want a theme? Well, lets take for example Lightsworns, I build a LS deck and go down to the local Card Shop down the street, guess what 20 other people are using lightsworns... thus making my deck really really lame. Its the same with Blackwings, Plants, and whatever other themes people are driving into the ground nowadays, that's not what I want, that's why I have no theme. I want a more unique deck that kicks ass, thats why I'm always building the deck I never see anyone using, Like I said I have Deck Death, Bad Reaction to Simochi, and Exodia decks because I never seen anyone using them, I might not have a high win to loss ratio with them, but I'd rather that then to be the next Blackwing a**hole doing them exact same thing as all the other 50 people at the tournamnent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Penguin soldier in 3s is a beatdown staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 sigh... themes... You wanna know why I don't want a theme? Well' date=' lets take for example Lightsworns, I build a LS deck and go down to the local Card Shop down the street, guess what 20 other people are using lightsworns... thus making my deck really really lame. Its the same with Blackwings, Plants, and whatever other themes people are driving into the ground nowadays, that's not what I want, that's why I have no theme. I want a more unique deck that kicks ass, thats why I'm always building the deck I never see anyone using, Like I said I have Deck Death, Bad Reaction to Simochi, and Exodia decks because I never seen anyone using them, I might not have a high win to loss ratio with them, but I'd rather that then to be the next Blackwing a**hole doing them exact same thing as all the other 50 people at the tournamnent...[/quote'] I know what you mean. There are only a few good decks out there that are truly competitive. You look down the list of some champion or pro decks and there will barley be any diversity. But not having a theme isn't good. There a few things that decks should have, focus and consistency. You don't have to use Blackwings to accomplish that. Your deck now uses random monsters, like it or not. All of your cards should work together and try to accomplish one thing. It shouldn't be too hard to make a strategy that has that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Penguin soldier in 3s is a beatdown staple. Ahh, ok I'll try puting in more Penguins and see how it works, I just figured 1 would be enough. Puh, seems Spell Economics does not work with Mausoleum... lame, so very very lame, but oh well, guess Ill have to replace it with some Solemn Wishes or something that will return life to me as I pay it. Anyone got any suggestions what I can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Penguin soldier in 3s is a beatdown staple. Ahh' date=' ok I'll try puting in more Penguins and see how it works, I just figured 1 would be enough. [/quote'] Wow. Just wow. You do know he was being sarcastic...right? You need more 1800+ ATK beaters in a beatdown deck. Try Skill Drain Beatdown with 3x Skill Dragon and stuff like Goblin Attack Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 - 2 spell economics-Ribbon of Rebirth+Heavy Storm+Soul Exchange This also gets you closer to 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 lol, A. *Penguin Soldier flips over, sends 2 opponents monsters back to the hand then Penguin Soldier is sacrificed for Jinzo for a clear shot at opponents LP...* If thats isn't beat down I don't know what is... B. *1800 ATK beater attacks opponents card, Sakuretsu Armor is fliped. 2 face down traps are set, end turn. Opponent sacrfices monster for Jinzo for a clear shot at my LP...* Hmm, I pick A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Wrong. Beatdown is all about having strong monster to beat the opponent down and smash thruough his defenses. That is yugioh 101. Penguin Soldier isn't a beatdown monster. and Jinzo isn't really used as a staple anymore. He is a nice tech card, but not widely used anymore. You can take care of Sak with MST or Heavy or Trunade. Especially since it isn't chainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 lol' date=' A. *Penguin Soldier flips over, sends 2 opponents monsters back to the hand then Penguin Soldier is sacrificed for Jinzo for a clear shot at opponents LP...* If thats isn't beat down I don't know what is... B. *1800 ATK beater attacks opponents card, Sakuretsu Armor is fliped. 2 face down traps are set, end turn. Opponent sacrfices monster for Jinzo for a clear shot at my LP...* Hmm, I pick A.[/quote'] You do know that stuff like Dark Armed Dragon, Caius the Shadow Monarch, Shield Crush, and Nobleman of Crossout exist, right? More than likely, Penguin would be destroyed before your opponent attacks. And it'll probably be destroyed by battle without giving you a chance to tribute it as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I dunno, I've been playing for a long time, I had quite a few decks and one thing I've realized is that straight power never works (I say that but I have a Summoned Skull in this deck LOL). This game is all about overpowering and locking down your opponent, thats why I never rely on a 4 star beat down card with little to no effect, its just too damn hard to keep him alive long enough to do anything. Also, I put in a Heavy Storm in place of one of the Spell Economics and a Solemn Wishes in the other just until I can get another Soul Exchange. I dunno about getting rid of Ribbon of Rebirth though, many times I've killed a monster that had it then sacrificed it next turn because it was under my control. That card is kind of iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 trust me on this.what i said in the earlier post is a beatdown deck in a nutshell. Try a skill drain beatdown deck. very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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