burnpsy Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [align=center] Discard 2 cards from your hand. Select 1 face-up monster and flip it face-down' date=' but do not change its battle position.[/quote'][/align] We all know this card is bad. What I wanted to discuss was the Face-Down Attack Position mechanic that is only used by this card, and what could be done with it if something decent with this capability were to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [align=center] Discard 2 cards from your hand. Select 1 face-up monster and flip it face-down' date=' but do not change its battle position.[/quote'][/align] We all know this card is bad. What I wanted to discuss was the Face-Down Attack Position mechanic that is only used by this card, and what could be done with it if something decent with this capability were to come out. it does make an interisting situation. what about attacking with a face-down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [align=center] Discard 2 cards from your hand. Select 1 face-up monster and flip it face-down' date=' but do not change its battle position.[/quote'][/align] We all know this card is bad. What I wanted to discuss was the Face-Down Attack Position mechanic that is only used by this card, and what could be done with it if something decent with this capability were to come out. it does make an interisting situation. what about attacking with a face-down Apparently there isn't a ruling on attacking with a facedown, but a monster must be in face-up attack position to declare an attack, so I would assume that a FD attack position card would take battle damage from a battle, and would be flipped into Face-up attack position when attacked. Flip effects still activated though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namo™ Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 That plus This I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 That plus This I guess Lol, that actually works. way to go, you have a 4 card plan to remove from play any opponents monster. :) That's the most pro thing I've seen all day, you are my hero :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 That plus This I guess Lol' date=' that actually works. way to go, you have a 4 card plan to remove from play any opponents monster. :) That's the most pro thing I've seen all day, you are my hero :)[/quote'] Torrential Tribute? D: On-topic: The whole "Face-Down Attack Postion" would be a very strange mechanic. I'd love to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 It says "But do not change its battle position"Even then..the only face-down position was in defense..Meaning by saying that, they actually intended to have face-down attack position monsters...o.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Darkness Approaches is the only known card to allow a F/D Attack, if memory serves. But it has no real point, which is probably why no other cards do it. A facedown monster that attacks is flipped faceup, but I wonder whether that only happens during damage calculation, or right away...I'd think during damage calculation, the same way with f/d defense monsters that get attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Darkness Approaches is the only known card to allow a F/D Attack' date=' if memory serves. But it has no real point, which is probably why no other cards do it. A facedown monster that attacks is flipped faceup, but I wonder whether that only happens during damage calculation, or right away...I'd think during damage calculation, the same way with f/d defense monsters that get attacked.[/quote'] I think a monster, invitation to a dark sleep, does the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Darkness Approaches is the only known card to allow a F/D Attack' date=' if memory serves. But it has no real point, which is probably why no other cards do it. A facedown monster that attacks is flipped faceup, but I wonder whether that only happens during damage calculation, or right away...I'd think during damage calculation, the same way with f/d defense monsters that get attacked.[/quote'] I think a monster, invitation to a dark sleep, does the same thing. Uh...no. Invitation to a Dark Sleep's effect is that when it's summoned, it stops a faceup monster from attacking. It's also a 1500/1800 five star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 the discard 2 cards thing kills it... otherwise it wouldnt be bad to experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 the discard 2 cards thing kills it... otherwise it wouldnt be bad to experiment. Without the "discard 2 cards" thing, it's a non-chainable Book of Moon that doesn't force the victim into Defense Position. That still seems weak in most situations... and is absurdly powerful in Flip Effect-heavy decks, since attacking provides an extra flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 weak yes, but able to be used.... but, with the Discard 2, there's no hope for it... might as well discard another 3 and activate Final Destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 If it were Quick-Play, it could stop the Shapesnatch OTK! Discard makes it bad, Book of Moon does it better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I think it goes like this: Face-down attack position flipped face-up goes in face-up attack position.Battle between face-down attack position and face-up attack position: just like a normal ATK vs ATK battle, just that FLIP effects activate. That's all. What's so strange? This card is lame, but if you remove the cost it is usable. It is quite effective with Slate Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I designed two Dark Synchro Monsters, one which flipped all monsters face-down during the End Phase, and another that was a Dark Synchro Armory Arm. When the monster it was equipped to destroyed a face-down Attack Position monster, it inflicted 4000 damage. So all you need to do is make that Dark Synchro a real card, and this could be played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Would you have to change this card's target to defense before flipping it it F/U attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFireZX Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Konami please make a super-super short print of this card without the cost :( (A quick-play would be nice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I wanted to make an archetype that could abuse this card with the card maker, but I really couldn't think of anything that wasn't stupid or absurdly broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 The face-down Attack Position thing is the ONLY reason this is lulzy. Why in the world would you run this over Book of Moon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfowt Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 because you wanted to discard 2 cards? not that unimaginable in a dark world deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 @crabs, its far too outclassed by book of moon and eclipse, even with my infinite hand advantage engine. and far less risky (no mirror force) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 because you wanted to discard 2 cards? not that unimaginable in a dark world deck... That's the cost, doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfowt Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 oh yeah. forgot they had to be discarded by an effect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 You know, this card is actually playable in a certain deck.Empty Jar, lol. Also, meh, hidden text doesn't work as well with 2 board skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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