Brushfire Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Icy' date=' you're way to quick to give out warnings..[/quote'] ITT: Saying trolls and people who agree with them are stupid is worthy of a 50% warn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Icy' date=' you're way to quick to give out warnings..[/quote'] ITT: Saying trolls and people who agree with them are stupid is worthy of a 50% warn. Damn, Icy sure seems to like to warn people who actually say the truth. Wait, if Icy were to do that, all the people who speak the truth on YCM would be permanently banned. And yes, by that logic, even Crab Helmet would be permanently banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 This however' date=' was the dumbest thing I've read all day. No wonder people are banned so easily these days, as soon as someone says something that you don't like they get banned.[/quote'] Unless you mean perma ban, no. Other wise the threat of Blakie return would still loom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Dissonance' date=' insulting them only kills their intelligence further. Way to promote the problem. Ooh, and because I'm here actually listening to your insults? Warned 50% for intentional flaming.[/quote'] This however, was the dumbest thing I've read all day. No wonder people are banned so easily these days, as soon as someone says something that you don't like they get banned. I havent touched a member in General for ages. Except LiE yesterday o_O... But that user was insulting everyone in General truth or not (which you know I believe what Dissonance said to an extent >_<"). And I went with my basic defaults on all custom warns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Dissonance' date=' insulting them only kills their intelligence further. Way to promote the problem. Ooh, and because I'm here actually listening to your insults? Warned 50% for intentional flaming.[/quote'] This however, was the dumbest thing I've read all day. No wonder people are banned so easily these days, as soon as someone says something that you don't like they get banned. I havent touched a member in General for ages. Except LiE yesterday o_O... But that user was insulting everyone in General truth or not (which you know I believe what Dissonance said to an extent >_<"). And I went with my basic defaults on all custom warns. Yeah, that clearly shows by the choices you make. FD wouldn't have touched him, so I don't know why you felt the need to. The same goes with LiE, you shouldn't have. And he spoke the truth, and it IS the truth, and I agree with him. He may have insulted me to a tiny extent, but what he said needed to be said. And then you basic defaults are stupid, along with your "If I ban someone, it will be for at least a week" policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Dissonance' date=' insulting them only kills their intelligence further. Way to promote the problem. Ooh, and because I'm here actually listening to your insults? Warned 50% for intentional flaming.[/quote'] This however, was the dumbest thing I've read all day. No wonder people are banned so easily these days, as soon as someone says something that you don't like they get banned. I havent touched a member in General for ages. Except LiE yesterday o_O... But that user was insulting everyone in General truth or not (which you know I believe what Dissonance said to an extent >_<"). And I went with my basic defaults on all custom warns. Yeah, that clearly shows by the choices you make. FD wouldn't have touched him, so I don't know why you felt the need to. The same goes with LiE, you shouldn't have. And he spoke the truth, and it IS the truth, and I agree with him. He may have insulted me to a tiny extent, but what he said needed to be said. And then you basic defaults are stupid, along with your "If I ban someone, it will be for at least a week" policy. Excuse me? He spoke a horribly direct truth. I still did it anyway, even if I agreed with what he said. If I was actually gonna do something I would have banned him and edited his post to include fairies and little dreams about being a magical princess. LiE... Something tells me you don't know much about why, or for how long. And it wasn't needed to be said, cuz that's only gonna make the way that General works, think that they're not part of that group. Or haven't you been paying attention? Dissonance should (by the way it posts) know this. Would you have me take it for a fool? Ooh and great job comparing me to FD, is there supposed to be some magical standard that every user can look at so that everyone is the same? Don't even joke with me on that. We follow the same rules as everyone else, but to what extent we take the warns etc is left up to the moderator. And don't use this as an excuse to attack me, because I don't really feel like typing up another wall of text as soon as I wake up. My policies are working extremely well in the upper sections, and if you've been paying attention at all to besides what I said to Dissonance, Im extending it here. If out of pure lazyness and disgust at the attitudes. And that for a week thing? Shut up, YCM doesn't get it when you ban for any less or warn. So it's either that or I fix the warning to eliminate their ability to post. If it ends up in an auto-ban, whoops. So sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Excuse me? He spoke a horribly direct truth. I still did it anyway' date=' even if I agreed with what he said. If I was actually gonna do something I would have banned him and edited his post to include fairies and little dreams about being a magical princess. LiE... Something tells me you don't know much about why, or for how long. [b']A horribly direct truth? Wait, why the hell did you admit that you actually banned him for speaking the truth? Either way, you don't like what he said and how he 'insulted' your precious YCM members with it. He spoke the truth and nothing more, even Scott agrees that your decision was stupid. And what told you that about LiE? Oh, was it me on MSN by any chance?[/b] And it wasn't needed to be said, cuz that's only gonna make the way that General works, think that they're not part of that group. Or haven't you been paying attention? Dissonance should (by the way it posts) know this. Would you have me take it for a fool? And yes it was. You clearly don't realise how General is ran when you come in and do things like that. Seriously, we need to give this section back to Raven and not let anyone else touch it. Ooh and great job comparing me to FD, is there supposed to be some magical standard that every user can look at so that everyone is the same? Don't even joke with me on that. We follow the same rules as everyone else, but to what extent we take the warns etc is left up to the moderator. And don't use this as an excuse to attack me, because I don't really feel like typing up another wall of text as soon as I wake up. My policies are working extremely well in the upper sections, and if you've been paying attention at all to besides what I said to Dissonance, Im extending it here. If out of pure lazyness and disgust at the attitudes. I will compare you to FD, because he actually knows how to run General. I doubted his ability to Mod anything but Video Games before, but he's proven to be a decent Mod, unlike Hunter (who was your choice, ironically) who banned everyone for speaking against him. Sounds similar to what you do when you're in a bad mood, tbh. Yeah, your policies supposedly work extremely well in those upper sections. You know, the place where Rag can post hundreds of times a day and people post "nice card 8/10" and get away with it. Here's a tip: Keep your policies in the upper sections and don't bring them here, because people who only post in the lower sections clearly aren't worth your time. And that for a week thing? Shut up, YCM doesn't get it when you ban for any less or warn. So it's either that or I fix the warning to eliminate their ability to post. If it ends up in an auto-ban, whoops. So sad.Nice, telling me to shut up. And what if I don't? Will you ban me too? :? And that would be fine if they were ACTUALLY trolls. But no, apparently on YCM trolls are noobs and people who post for fun are trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 No I won't attack you and no I won't continue. I'll do the wise thing and cave for now. The warn should still be slightly in effect even if I revoke. (I'm not sure how long the Post Moderation actually lasts). I'll take in what you said, and learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 exaggerate on how much better "the old YCM" is ... I love Icyblue's posts. In the scheme of this entire thread, his posts are by far the funniests, with Waluigi's (both 43 and 44) coming second, but by FAR. Now watch as I get banned. Even while I am banned, I will read this thread over and over for some lulz. EDIT: Damnit Brushfire, I came too late. Ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 OP is a buffoon. =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 He spoke a horribly direct truth. I'm not one of those YCMods-Are-Tyrannical-Tyrants-We're-In-1984-Now conspiracy lunatics' date=' but this sounds absurdly awful to me anyhow. Are you seriously telling me that we're banning people for speaking the truth now if they didn't do it nicely enough or if that truth isn't terribly convenient for us or if we're in a bad mood or if it's the second Tuesday of the month and we aren't wearing green hats? This is ridiculous. This is ludicrous. The truth must not be forbidden. The truth [i']cannot[/i] be forbidden. It's the bloody truth. I can't even articulate terribly well why the truth must be permitted, since it is such a fundamental truth that it is akin to explaining why stabbing people in the face is not a good way to make friends; nevertheless, it is most certainly true that the truth must be permitted to be spoken. Really, I shouldn't have to explain why. This shouldn't be a theorem; it should not require proof. This should be an axiom; we should share some fundamental notion that it is true and accept it as such without proof. At the very least, though, I can point to the real-world versions of flaming rules. They're called "libel" and "slander", and guess what? In most countries with anything resembling free speech, it's not libel or slander if what is being said is true. Because what Dissonance said was perfectly true and Dissonance knew that it was true and IcyBlue knew and admitted that it was true and I certainly know that it is true, I am reversing this ruling and revoking the warn on Dissonance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 He spoke a horribly direct truth. I'm not one of those YCMods-Are-Tyrannical-Tyrants-We're-In-1984-Now conspiracy lunatics' date=' but this sounds absurdly awful to me anyhow. Are you seriously telling me that we're banning people for speaking the truth now if they didn't do it nicely enough or if that truth isn't terribly convenient for us or if we're in a bad mood or if it's the second Tuesday of the month and we aren't wearing green hats? This is ridiculous. This is ludicrous. The truth must not be forbidden. The truth [i']cannot[/i] be forbidden. Because what Dissonance said was perfectly true and Dissonance knew that it was true and IcyBlue knew and admitted that it was true and I certainly know that it is true, I am reversing this ruling and revoking the warn on Dissonance. ITT: You didnt read what I said when I caved. Even if I did revoke it the warning, Post Moderation would still be in effect (if the duration didn't wear off). And it was not forbidden in the traditional sense, it was acted upon due to the way that General works. If one speaks of such a truth to that degree, the users will think (or at least act) like they're above that majority. Crippling the whole purpose of saying it. Should we let that mentality just fly and stay? If so, I won't act on such a thing again. If not, well... Alls well that ends well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waluigi44 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 OP is a buffoon. =3 LIES! SLANDER! BAN THIS HEATHEN! MAY HIS HEAD BE SERVED TO YUGIOHCARDMAKER IN THE FORM OF A TASTY BEVERAGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raylen Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 There is difference to how the truth is presented, or if it is presented at all. Take the following example, when someone is born, people usually make predictions about what the newborn will be when they grow up. If someone said "He will die." Which is an obvious truth. However, it is terribly offensive, and no one really wants to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 However, it is terribly offensive, and no one really wants to hear it. However, it's true nonetheless. So I could really give a damn less if anyone wants to hear it, but it's damn inevitable that your baby will die. If you ignore the truth, you might as well be labeled an idiot. I'm sad. The Waluigi twins were banned. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissonance Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 There is difference to how the truth is presented' date=' or if it is presented at all. Take the following example, when someone is born, people usually make predictions about what the newborn will be when they grow up. If someone said "He will die." Which is an obvious truth. However, it is terribly offensive, and no one really wants to hear it.[/quote'] Nazi's were killing Jews by the trainload back in WWII, but that was terribly offensive to the Nazi party, so no one wanted to hear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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