Official Forbidden list.... >.<'

[Flame Dragon]

Every card on the ban list is their for good reason

 

 

It was an over generalization and it sounded better. I just couldn't be bothered to say "every card on the ban list is their for good reason side from MoF and CoN"

[burnpsy]

This has to be an April Fools joke' date=' but I'll play along.

[/quote']

 

Read the date and time he posted this thread, please. >___>

[DARKPLANT RISING]

Konami: OK, I'm going to stop all restriction lists!!

 

Later:

A: I activate 2 Painful Choices to Special Summon 3 Chaos Soldiers and 2 Chaos Emperor Dragons!! Use Raigeki and Harpie's Feather Duster to clear your field and attack directly!!

B: Wwwhhhaaattt ttthhhheee f*************

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Every card on the ban list is their for good reason

 

 

 

[Flame Dragon]

This has to be an April Fools joke' date=' but I'll play along.

[/quote']

 

Read the date and time he posted this thread, please. >___>

It still could be. Posting it a day early makes it look more believable, but that is just part of the trap. Even though I think it is still possible you are right, I should check datas.

[Jonnyfive]

Konami: OK' date=' I'm going to stop all restriction lists!!

 

Later:

A: I activate 2 Painful Choices to Special Summon 3 Chaos Soldiers and 2 Chaos Emperor Dragons!! Use Raigeki and Harpie's Feather Duster to clear your field and attack directly!!

B: Wwwhhhaaattt ttthhhheee f*************

[/quote']

 

3 gorz.

b****

[Dr. Cakey]

Gemini's aren't really that broken. They can be' date=' but the are not. None of the Gemini monsters have even been semi-limited.

 

Banned cards are fun in trad. I'll admit, Pot of Greed I liked, but hey the cards needed to be banned. No more consistent FTK's people hated that. That is why these cards are banned. To keep the game going at a rate that more newer people would play.

[/quote']

 

Thank you for being kind in this post. I agree that some cards ruin the game early. I just think it's unfair that some of the cards are on there. Tribe-Infecting Virus is one of these cases. The effect is that when it's summoned you choose one type and it can no longer be summoned. That's fair. Jinzo destroys trap cards, and there is a card that makes it to where your opponent can no longer use magic cards. (It's a trap card. and used with most Jinzo stopper decks.) They arent forbidden. but this one card is. There are others like Pot of Greed, Morphing Jar, and others like that that are quite harmless that I think shouldn't be banned. Semi-limited or limited maybe, but banned? Come on.

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Wow you lost all credibility when you said geminis were broken actually they are mediocre to horrible most of them.

 

I dont respect Gemini. I don't like them. You can Normal summon most of them without needing a tribute either time you summon them. They also allow for multiple summons with effects that can then be tributed to summon even larger monsters with no drawbacks. How fair is that. in three turns someone can summon a bigger monster like Blue-eyes White Dragon and rule the dule in the next three turns. that isn't fair is it?

 

Tribe-Infecting Virus lets you discard a card to destroy all monsters on the field of 1 type. Also, the effect can be used multiple times per turn. It's basically a re-usable Lightning Vortex.

Jinzo negates all traps, but very few decks actually use many traps (1 Mirror Force, 1 Solemn Judgment, 1 Torrential, along with Bottomless and a few others depending on personal preference). Royal Decree has the same effect, but I think you're talking about Imperial Order (did I get the name right? I get these royalty continuous cards confused.)- which is banned.

 

Pot of Greed's danger is quite obvious, not only does a single copy turn the deck into a 38 card deck (or 37, depending on perspective) due to the draw, but it is also a +1 to your hand. Bumping that to 3 turns it into a 34 card deck - remember, the smaller your deck is, the more likely you are to draw what you need. In other words, just by drawing your opponent hand, you've gone through about 3/8 of your deck (theoretically).

Morphing Jar is an extraordinary LIMITED card that some think should be banned (I don't). Not only is it a possible +4, it thins your deck by 5 cards. If it didn't do the same to your opponent, it would be at least as banworthy as Pot of Greed.

 

Geminis have recently got a ton of support, and because of that they now work pretty well if constructed right. They are not field-raping beacons of glory like certain other decks (some of which are now mostly defunct), but they can work well because of a variety of accelerating cards like Gemini Spark and Supervise.

Now, here's how a Gemini works:

1) You summon it. If it's a Level 5-6 monster, you Tribute a monster for it. Level 7+ and you Tribute 2.

2) It is now a Normal Monster, which is kind of cool because it applies for a number of support cards.

3) Either wait until your next turn, or use something like Double Summon (or play a card like Supervise) to Normal Summon it a second time. This "Gemini Summon" does not require Tributes, it is really just giving up your Normal Summon/Set for the turn - though it also leaves you vulnerable to cards like Bottomless Trap Hole or Torrential Tribute.

4) You now have your very own Effect Monster. Feel free to use its effects. Depending on the card, you might sit there wondering why it had to be a Gemini Monster. In the case of better cards like Chthonian Emperor Dragon or Phoenix Gearfried, you are not wondering this, and are pleased with your monster.

5) Your Gemini is run over by some gigantic Synchro Monster.

6) You revive it with one of a number of Normal Monster support cards.

[Coffee Black]

@TC

I wasn't even mean. The fact is that is nothing was banned, the game could be over in only a couple turns, which is cheap and not fun. That's why many cards are banned. You make an arguement over single cards that are banned, but certain cards are just unfair and bad for the game.

[Dr. Cakey]

They should Unlimit Elma and Ban Gearfried.

[/not entirely obvious sarcasm]

[Jonnyfive]

They should Unlimit Elma and Ban Gearfried.

[/not entirely obvious sarcasm]

 

elma is still spammable without gearfried

gearfried isn't spammable..and isn't that great

besides that would make useless cards even more useless

(gearfried swordmaster and release restraint)

[CrabHelmet]

elma is still spammable without gearfried

 

Not really. It has decent combos with cards like Kuraz' date=' but nothing I'd describe as spam, and certainly no loops.

 

gearfried isn't spammable..and isn't that great

 

Gearfried being weak would be an argument in Elma's favour were it not for the fact that Elma is even weaker.

 

besides that would make useless cards even more useless

(gearfried swordmaster and release restraint)

 

And Elma being banned makes, um, Elma even more useless. There's no difference there.

[Jonnyfive]

elma is still spammable without gearfried

 

Not really. It has decent combos with cards like Kuraz' date=' but nothing I'd describe as spam, and certainly no loops.

 

gearfried isn't spammable..and isn't that great

 

Gearfried being weak would be an argument in Elma's favour were it not for the fact that Elma is even weaker.

 

besides that would make useless cards even more useless

(gearfried swordmaster and release restraint)

 

And Elma being banned makes' date=' um, Elma even more useless. There's no difference there.

[/quote']

 

if elma weren't banned, it wouldn't be as useless as gearfried and his "support" is now

if gearfried were banned...the game wouldn't change at all.

thus, my argument is elma has more caused to be banned than gearfried

point taken?

[CrabHelmet]

if elma weren't banned' date=' it wouldn't be as useless as gearfried and his "support" is now

if gearfried were banned...the game wouldn't change at all.

thus, my argument is elma has more caused to be banned than gearfried

point taken?

[/quote']

 

Your logic is valid but neither true nor sound. The problem lies in your faulty premise - that Elma would contribute more to the game than Gearfried does. I submit that this is false. Elma is utterly useless, but Gearfried at least is a decent ROTAble beatstick that counters certain opposing moves (like Mark of the Rose) while comboing with cards like Blast With Chain and Smoke Grenade of the Thief in a way that makes them playable. (Gearfried's official support is indeed terrible, but they aren't why he's somewhat useful.)

[werewolfjedi]

if elma weren't banned' date=' it wouldn't be as useless as gearfried and his "support" is now

if gearfried were banned...the game wouldn't change at all.

thus, my argument is elma has more caused to be banned than gearfried

point taken?

[/quote']

 

Your logic is valid but neither true nor sound. The problem lies in your faulty premise - that Elma would contribute more to the game than Gearfried does. I submit that this is false. Elma is utterly useless, but Gearfried at least is a decent ROTAble beatstick that counters certain opposing moves (like Mark of the Rose) while comboing with cards like Blast With Chain and Smoke Grenade of the Thief in a way that makes them playable. (Gearfried's official support is indeed terrible, but they aren't why he's somewhat useful.)

 

elma's only use would be to make spell counters for spell counter deckers, and we have tons of cards for that.