Grammar Keywords?

[Guest JoshIcy]

I know' date=' but like Black Luster Soldier, it has the discard monsters with 8 stars yadda yadda yada, when it only needs to be posted once in Black Luster Ritual. If it was just a plain no effect Ritual, it would say "This card can only be Ritual Summoned by the Spell Card ----" No Star effect.

[/quote']

 

That doesnt quite matter. The whole part about the Spell Card, includes that it can ONLY be summoned with that card or a card that directly breaks its rule. And I have a few examples that could work (because they don't cause Ruling Errors) for Archetypes and Subtypes, using a Clause System. But yeah... .-. Working it out a little.

[Chaos Flame]

Several monsters have mill effects, maybe just say mill X cards instead of send the top X cards of your deck to the graveyard?

[Hymn]

Several monsters have mill effects' date=' maybe just say mill X cards instead of send the top X cards of your deck to the graveyard?

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If you guys do choose to shorten things, please leave this out. Milling is a great example of slang that should be left off of a card.

 

JD is now:

 

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having 4 or more "Lightsworn" monsters with different names in your Graveyard. You can pay 1000 Life Points to blow up the field. During each of your End Phases, mill 4 cards.

 

No offense to anyone, but that looks retarded.

[-Griffin]

Several monsters have mill effects' date=' maybe just say mill X cards instead of send the top X cards of your deck to the graveyard?

[/quote']

 

If you guys do choose to shorten things, please leave this out. Milling is a great example of slang that should be left off of a card.

 

JD is now:

 

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having 4 or more "Lightsworn" monsters with different names in your Graveyard. You can pay 1000 Life Points to blow up the field. During each of your End Phases, mill 4 cards.

 

No offense to anyone, but that looks retarded.

 

Looks perfectly fine to me =/ I wouldn't mind if mill/spin/bounce became real OCG, but I'm fine either way.

[Guest Cursed Reaction]

I wouldn't mind 'mill'. But to be honest, keep milling effects the way they are.

[Gaia Overload]

Several monsters have mill effects' date=' maybe just say mill X cards instead of send the top X cards of your deck to the graveyard?

[/quote']

 

If you guys do choose to shorten things, please leave this out. Milling is a great example of slang that should be left off of a card.

 

JD is now:

 

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having 4 or more "Lightsworn" monsters with different names in your Graveyard. You can pay 1000 Life Points to blow up the field. During each of your End Phases, mill 4 cards.

 

No offense to anyone, but that looks retarded.

 

It SOUNDS fine, but doesn't LOOK very professional.

[wero-vasto]

I know' date=' but like Black Luster Soldier, it has the discard monsters with 8 stars yadda yadda yada, when it only needs to be posted once in Black Luster Ritual. If it was just a plain no effect Ritual, it would say "This card can only be Ritual Summoned by the Spell Card ----" No Star effect.

[/quote']

 

That doesnt quite matter. The whole part about the Spell Card, includes that it can ONLY be summoned with that card or a card that directly breaks its rule. And I have a few examples that could work (because they don't cause Ruling Errors) for Archetypes and Subtypes, using a Clause System. But yeah... .-. Working it out a little.

 

Archetypes and Subtypes would be the hard work :/

 

Several monsters have mill effects' date=' maybe just say mill X cards instead of send the top X cards of your deck to the graveyard?

[/quote']

 

If you guys do choose to shorten things, please leave this out. Milling is a great example of slang that should be left off of a card.

 

JD is now:

 

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having 4 or more "Lightsworn" monsters with different names in your Graveyard. You can pay 1000 Life Points to blow up the field. During each of your End Phases, mill 4 cards.

 

No offense to anyone, but that looks retarded.

 

That looks professional .__. and no near to retarded <_<

[Guest JoshIcy]

I know' date=' but like Black Luster Soldier, it has the discard monsters with 8 stars yadda yadda yada, when it only needs to be posted once in Black Luster Ritual. If it was just a plain no effect Ritual, it would say "This card can only be Ritual Summoned by the Spell Card ----" No Star effect.

[/quote']

 

That doesnt quite matter. The whole part about the Spell Card, includes that it can ONLY be summoned with that card or a card that directly breaks its rule. And I have a few examples that could work (because they don't cause Ruling Errors) for Archetypes and Subtypes, using a Clause System. But yeah... .-. Working it out a little.

 

Archetypes and Subtypes would be the hard work :/

 

Not quite... Me and Calle are talking about using it, with FLIP and other similar terms for like effects that use specific effects while keeping actual Keyword and detail differences. Like SWITCH for Gladiator Tagging.

 

EDIT for the first Keyword:

Gladiator Tagging- SWITCH

• When writing a card effect that includes the following card text:
  

  If this card battles, by returning it from the field to the Deck at the end of the Battle Phase, Special Summon X [monster] from your Deck, except [Card Name].

  
  You can instead write it as the following at the start of the card.
  

  SWITCH: X [Monster], except [Card Name].
  

  
  

[wero-vasto]

I know' date=' but like Black Luster Soldier, it has the discard monsters with 8 stars yadda yadda yada, when it only needs to be posted once in Black Luster Ritual. If it was just a plain no effect Ritual, it would say "This card can only be Ritual Summoned by the Spell Card ----" No Star effect.

[/quote']

 

That doesnt quite matter. The whole part about the Spell Card, includes that it can ONLY be summoned with that card or a card that directly breaks its rule. And I have a few examples that could work (because they don't cause Ruling Errors) for Archetypes and Subtypes, using a Clause System. But yeah... .-. Working it out a little.

 

Archetypes and Subtypes would be the hard work :/

 

Not quite... Me and Calle are talking about using it, with FLIP and other similar terms for like effects that use specific effects while keeping actual Keyword and detail differences. Like SWITCH for Gladiator Tagging.

 

Lovely~<3 If you find something for Archfiends let me know ^^ xD

 

IT:

Thought not every Archtype focuse on the same effect, example:

BW

[Guest Cursed Reaction]

How about for Gemini effects, for example, Dark Valkyria:

 

[spoiler=May look cheap though?]

 

[Guest JoshIcy]

Actually, we just got one for Archfiends...

 

Archfiend Rolls- DICE

• When writing effects that includes:
  

  When this card is targeted by the effect of a card controlled by your opponent, when resolving the effect, roll a six-sided die. If the result is X/Y/Z, [effect].

  
  You can instead write it as at the start of the Card Text:
  

  DICE (X,Y): [Effect that happens on Dice Roll Result(s)].

  
  

 

Yeah... It can work.

[Cloister]

I know' date=' but like Black Luster Soldier, it has the discard monsters with 8 stars yadda yadda yada, when it only needs to be posted once in Black Luster Ritual. If it was just a plain no effect Ritual, it would say "This card can only be Ritual Summoned by the Spell Card ----" No Star effect.

[/quote']

 

That doesnt quite matter. The whole part about the Spell Card, includes that it can ONLY be summoned with that card or a card that directly breaks its rule. And I have a few examples that could work (because they don't cause Ruling Errors) for Archetypes and Subtypes, using a Clause System. But yeah... .-. Working it out a little.

 

Archetypes and Subtypes would be the hard work :/

 

Not quite... Me and Calle are talking about using it, with FLIP and other similar terms for like effects that use specific effects while keeping actual Keyword and detail differences. Like SWITCH for Gladiator Tagging.

 

EDIT for the first Keyword:

Gladiator Tagging- SWITCH

• When writing a card effect that includes the following card text:
  

  If this card battles, by returning it from the field to the Deck at the end of the Battle Phase, Special Summon 1 [monster] from your Deck, except [Card Name].

  
  You can instead write it as the following at the start of the card.
  

  SWITCH: 1 [Monster], except [Card Name].
  

  
  

 

Well, you still need to have the When this card battles in the effect.

Since Switch doesn't instantly apply when a monster battles?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Guest JoshIcy]

I know' date=' but like Black Luster Soldier, it has the discard monsters with 8 stars yadda yadda yada, when it only needs to be posted once in Black Luster Ritual. If it was just a plain no effect Ritual, it would say "This card can only be Ritual Summoned by the Spell Card ----" No Star effect.

[/quote']

 

That doesnt quite matter. The whole part about the Spell Card, includes that it can ONLY be summoned with that card or a card that directly breaks its rule. And I have a few examples that could work (because they don't cause Ruling Errors) for Archetypes and Subtypes, using a Clause System. But yeah... .-. Working it out a little.

 

Archetypes and Subtypes would be the hard work :/

 

Not quite... Me and Calle are talking about using it, with FLIP and other similar terms for like effects that use specific effects while keeping actual Keyword and detail differences. Like SWITCH for Gladiator Tagging.

 

EDIT for the first Keyword:

Gladiator Tagging- SWITCH

• When writing a card effect that includes the following card text:
  

  If this card battles, by returning it from the field to the Deck at the end of the Battle Phase, Special Summon 1 [monster] from your Deck, except [Card Name].

  
  You can instead write it as the following at the start of the card.
  

  SWITCH: 1 [Monster], except [Card Name].
  

  
  

 

Well, you still need to have the When this card battles in the effect.

Since Switch doesn't instantly apply when a monster battles?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

It assumes that it happens during battle, if not you have to write out the original effect itself without the keywords.

[Cloister]

I see. But then the monster won't be able to active it when targeted by a Spell Card UNLESS it says so?

[Guest JoshIcy]

I see. But then the monster won't be able to active it when targeted by a Spell Card UNLESS it says so?

 

Do you see anywhere in the ruling that says it can SWITCH when targetted by Spell Cards?

[wero-vasto]

Actually' date=' we just got one for Archfiends...

 

[b']Archfiend Rolls- DICE[/b]

• When writing effects that includes:
  

  When this card is targeted by the effect of a card controlled by your opponent, when resolving the effect, roll a six-sided die. If the result is X/Y/Z, [effect].

  
  You can instead write it as at the start of the Card Text:
  

  DICE (X,Y): [Effect that happens on Dice Roll Result(s)].

  
  

 

Yeah... It can work.

 

Lovely~<3

 

Thought the Idea is here... so again... 100% agreed

[Umbra]

I've been talking to Josh, and we've agreed I should post these:

 

CHARGE(X), CAST(X) and AURA(X): The traditional Spell Counter effects.

 

Unabridged versions:

Charge: When a Spell Card is activated, place X Spell Counters on this card.

Cast: You can remove X Spell Counters from this card to {effect}.

Aura: While there are X or more Spell Counters on this card, {effect}.

 

Magical Exemplar:

CHARGE(2).

CAST(X): Special Summon 1 Level X Spellcaster-type monster from your hand or Graveyard.

 

Royal Magical Library:

CHARGE(1).

CAST(3): Draw 1 card.

 

Magical Citadel of Endymion:

CHARGE(1).

When a card with a Spell Counter on it is destroyed, place its Spell Counters on this card.

Once per turn: CAST(X): If you would activate a card's effect by removing X Spell Counters, you remove no Counters.

CAST(1): When this card would be destroyed, it is not destroyed.

 

Breaker the Magical Warrior:

When this card is Normal Summoned, place 1 Spell Counter on it.

AURA(X): Increase this card's ATK by X x 300.

CAST(1): Destroy 1 Spell or Trap Card.

[Gaia Overload]

Now this is beginning to end up like Magic the Gathering, Like Umbra is doing "Charge" is like a name of an effect, where as Magic the Gathering does the same thing like "Devour" sometimes it states the effect after it, but usually a card effect is just 2 or 3 words. We can't end up having yugioh card effects being "Once per turn Charge." that's it. Or entirely just "Dice". Like we can't have shortages to 1 word. it should be just a shorter sentence.

[wero-vasto]

I've been talking to Josh' date=' and we've agreed I should post these:

 

[i']CHARGE(X), CAST(X) and AURA(X)[/i]: The traditional Spell Counter effects.

 

Unabridged versions:

Charge: When a Spell Card is activated, place X Spell Counters on this card.

Cast: You can remove X Spell Counters from this card to {effect}.

Aura: While there are X or more Spell Counters on this card, {effect}.

 

Magical Exemplar:

CHARGE(2).

CAST(X): Special Summon 1 Level X Spellcaster-type monster from your hand or Graveyard.

 

Royal Magical Library:

CHARGE(1).

CAST(3): Draw 1 card.

 

Magical Citadel of Endymion:

CHARGE(1).

When a card with a Spell Counter on it is destroyed, place its Spell Counters on this card.

Once per turn: CAST(X): If you would activate a card's effect by removing X Spell Counters, you remove no Counters.

CAST(1): When this card would be destroyed, it is not destroyed.

 

Breaker the Magical Warrior:

When this card is Normal Summoned, place 1 Spell Counter on it.

AURA(X): Increase this card's ATK by X x 300.

CAST(1): Destroy 1 Spell or Trap Card.

 

and for the Limit? Specified in the effect or shorted too?

[Umbra]

Now this is beginning to end up like Magic the Gathering' date=' Like Umbra is doing "Charge" is like a name of an effect, where as Magic the Gathering does the same thing like "Devour" sometimes it states the effect after it, but usually a card effect is just 2 or 3 words. We can't end up having yugioh card effects being "Once per turn Charge." that's it. Or entirely just "Dice". Like we can't have shortages to 1 word. it should be just a shorter sentence.

[/quote']

 

CHARGE(Y, X): {Condition}

 

Exemplar's first effect:

CHARGE(Spell Counter, 2): When a Spell Card is activated.

 

Something like that, then? Adds more variety.

 

wero-vasto: Another reason why this newer version should be used. Add a (max. Z) at the end, if there is a limit. (Z = the limit, obviously.)

[Cloister]

Now this is beginning to end up like Magic the Gathering' date=' Like Umbra is doing "Charge" is like a name of an effect, where as Magic the Gathering does the same thing like "Devour" sometimes it states the effect after it, but usually a card effect is just 2 or 3 words. We can't end up having yugioh card effects being "Once per turn Charge." that's it. Or entirely just "Dice". Like we can't have shortages to 1 word. it should be just a shorter sentence.

[/quote']

 

CHARGE(Y, X): {Condition}

 

Exemplar's first effect:

CHARGE(Spell Counter, 2): When a Spell Card is activated.

 

Something like that, then? Adds more variety.

 

If that (condition) is added to Charge it should be added to all the other rulings as well. Otherwise using them wouldn't be enough flexible, instead TOO situational.

 

If a monster is targeted by a card effect, you would have to write out the whole return this to the deck and blahblahblah instead of just Switch.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Now this is beginning to end up like Magic the Gathering' date=' Like Umbra is doing "Charge" is like a name of an effect, where as Magic the Gathering does the same thing like "Devour" sometimes it states the effect after it, but usually a card effect is just 2 or 3 words. We can't end up having yugioh card effects being "Once per turn Charge." that's it. Or entirely just "Dice". Like we can't have shortages to 1 word. it should be just a shorter sentence.

[/quote']

 

CHARGE(Y, X): {Condition}

 

Exemplar's first effect:

CHARGE(Spell Counter, 2): When a Spell Card is activated.

 

Something like that, then? Adds more variety.

 

If that (condition) is added to Charge it should be added to all the other rulings as well. Otherwise using them would'nt be enough flexible, instead TOO situational.

 

If a monster is targeted by a card effect, you would have to write out the whole return this to the deck and blahblahblah instead of just Switch.

 

In such situations, traditional grammar would be the better option.

[Gaia Overload]

I'm talking about an entire card being like this. (Random Card no pic)

 

 

It shouldn't be just that. We should only use these shortages IF there is not enough space for the rest of the effect. If the text was SOOOO small like this, then you use it.

 

[Cloister]

So it's enough difference to make a whole new ruling for 1 situation but not for another?

 

Oh well.

[Gaia Overload]

Im talking for everything. Not just Charge. it was an example.