Grammar Keywords?

[RAEGING D0GKING]

Once per turn : Once

This card cannot be destroyed by battle : This card cannot die

 

IDK but that could be a shorter version for some cards....

[Guest JoshIcy]

Once is already a kind of keyword in the YGO CG, used to shorten "Once during the current duel [effect]". And die, is too strong of a word. Destroy is far more neutral, so no...

[-Griffin]

I /kinda/ agree with Once per turn --> Once and Once --> Once per duel.

 

So many more cards use Once per turn, it deserves the word more.

[RAEGING D0GKING]

Once is already a kind of keyword in the YGO CG' date=' used to shorten [i']"Once during the current duel [effect]"[/i]. And die, is too strong of a word. Destroy is far more neutral, so no...

 

I didn't say Once per duel.

I said Once per turn could be shortened to Once and it would mean Once per turn.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Once is already a kind of keyword in the YGO CG' date=' used to shorten [i']"Once during the current duel [effect]"[/i]. And die, is too strong of a word. Destroy is far more neutral, so no...

 

I didn't say Once per duel.

I said Once per turn could be shortened to Once and it would mean Once per turn.

 

Another one who cannot read.

I am saying that the term "Once" is used already, with cards that mean to say Once during the current duel. So your suggestion is invalid, as it is already used in the Card Game.

[Guest Cursed Reaction]

"Once only" is the official term for "Once per duel" / "Once per current duel".

"Once" could be "Once per turn" actually.

[Gaia Overload]

Yeah, even though you guys said all this, you still are saying you're going to use it even if the effect is going to be just 3 or 4 words.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Yeah' date=' even though you guys said all this, you still are saying you're going to use it even if the effect is going to be just 3 or 4 words.

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I'm sorry. But I'm going to ask you outright... Do you know what a discussion is?

[Gaia Overload]

Yes, something we talk about. But this isn't JUST a discussion. It's to wether we confirm we use this. There ARE terms and rules to using things. It's just no one is listening (Or reading, whatever floats your boat.) to whatever i'm saying about the Terms. Your making so much of a big deal about doing this, your going to pretty much short everything. We're barely going to use these, even if we do need to use them, doesn't that mean that the effect is a little to LONG?

[Guest JoshIcy]

Big deal? How...?

 

I got a couple friends and me to come up with workable ideas (which is EXPECTED ON ANY IDEA), I posted it to get a consensus. Which it appears to be 50/50, and I never once stated it'd be mandatory or a must. And how am I going to short anything?

 

But what MOST of us are trying to say is Don't just have Keywords for the entire effect' date=' you should only use if not enough room for real effect.

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We already know the CardMaker has some serious text squishing issues. And if any of you are familiar with Magic The Gathering' date=' they often use shortcuts like above to prevent a card from being cluttered and messy.

 

Congratulations, YCM cannot read.

 

 

Before you say no' date=' understand that a person would not be allowed more than 1 keyword in a card, they would HAVE to be at the start and if we choose to create Sentence Abbreviations they would be pretty formal and only save half the actual space.

[/quote']

 

and that too...

 

Again, showing you your falsified assumptions on the previous page. STOP IT! And read carefully.

[Brendano Harns]

IMHO, more terminology would be stupid. Why make the game harder to understand than it already is? The reason they don't use shortcuts like that, is that it is too confusing to those new to the game. =\

[Oyobi]

Read every last post, and honestly its a bad idea. Why? It causes confusion. Please don't point out that the YCM crams the text together as I am aware of that. What I believe it comes down to is being able to read a card and know what it does without having to look up what the shortcut means if one is used.

[Kitty]

IMHO' date=' more terminology would be stupid. Why make the game harder to understand than it already is? The reason they don't use shortcuts like that, is that it is too confusing to those new to the game. =\

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I agree with this.

 

If people go and make all kinds of shortcuts, people are naturally gonna get confused. Thus leading to more and more issues.

 

I personally prefer the original. If the text is squished then just post the lore under the card.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Again, people miss the point...

• You would not be allowed to use more than 1 Keyword (like how FLIP is a single keyword in such cards.
  
• Confusion would be almost nill, because we would design it to focus on common sense. Though it is expected to be confusing at first (what change isn't?).
  
• The idea is so that people DON'T HAVE TO POST THE LORE. And focus less on presentation and more on the overall effect.
  

I'm starting to get really annoyed by all of you, not being able to read.

What is it that's bad about that?

[Kitty]

Again' date=' people miss the point...

[list']

[*] You would not be allowed to use more than 1 Keyword (like how FLIP is a single keyword in such cards.

[*] Confusion would be almost nill, because we would design it to focus on common sense. Though it is expected to be confusing at first (what change isn't?).

[*] The idea is so that people DON'T HAVE TO POST THE LORE. And focus less on presentation and more on the overall effect.

I'm starting to get really annoyed by all of you, not being able to read.

What is it that's bad about that?

 

What's so bad about posting the lore in the first place?

 

I get what your saying Josh, but posting the lore isn't bad.

[J-Max]

Again' date=' people miss the point...

[list']

[*] You would not be allowed to use more than 1 Keyword (like how FLIP is a single keyword in such cards.

[*] Confusion would be almost nill, because we would design it to focus on common sense. Though it is expected to be confusing at first (what change isn't?).

[*] The idea is so that people DON'T HAVE TO POST THE LORE. And focus less on presentation and more on the overall effect.

I'm starting to get really annoyed by all of you, not being able to read.

What is it that's bad about that?

 

What's so bad about posting the lore in the first place?

Kitty is right. Also the fact that the Text is squished after only around 4 or 5 lines doesn't really help. It is the flow of the effect after all, if it requires 6 or more lines then so be it. Don't hold a member back due to a technicality.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Again' date=' people miss the point...

[list']

[*] You would not be allowed to use more than 1 Keyword (like how FLIP is a single keyword in such cards.

[*] Confusion would be almost nill, because we would design it to focus on common sense. Though it is expected to be confusing at first (what change isn't?).

[*] The idea is so that people DON'T HAVE TO POST THE LORE. And focus less on presentation and more on the overall effect.

I'm starting to get really annoyed by all of you, not being able to read.

What is it that's bad about that?

 

What's so bad about posting the lore in the first place?

 

From what I keep seeing, is that generally people who post the lore have effects that suffer greatly. Worrying too much about how it's presented word wise, which is BAD! an idea regardless of mediums is not made up of words, only expressed with words.

 

Most effects look like a polished brick of wood because of the pressure put on them by everyone else, and a polished brick of wood is bland and uninteresting. My goal one way or another, is to make people realize that while Good Grammar is good (Azrael and whoever is online when I make cards always check mine to make up for my lack of interest in it), it is not... Gyah.

 

I sound like a broken record. And I open these discussions instead of testing the waters flat out and changing stuff on the fly out of respect (truth is NONE OF YOU HAVE A CHOICE), and I give you the choice anyway. But nothing seems to be sticking to the earsets.

 

Alas, I will keep trying.

 

@James: I haven't seen a card of yours have good flow in 2yrs, kindly show me one that does?

[J-Max]

Again' date=' people miss the point...

[list']

[*] You would not be allowed to use more than 1 Keyword (like how FLIP is a single keyword in such cards.

[*] Confusion would be almost nill, because we would design it to focus on common sense. Though it is expected to be confusing at first (what change isn't?).

[*] The idea is so that people DON'T HAVE TO POST THE LORE. And focus less on presentation and more on the overall effect.

I'm starting to get really annoyed by all of you, not being able to read.

What is it that's bad about that?

 

What's so bad about posting the lore in the first place?

 

From what I keep seeing, is that generally people who post the lore have effects that suffer greatly. Worrying too much about how it's presented word wise, which is BAD! an idea regardless of mediums is not made up of words, only expressed with words.

 

Most effects look like a polished brick of wood because of the pressure put on them by everyone else, and a polished brick of wood is bland and uninteresting. My goal one way or another, is to make people realize that while Good Grammar is good (Azrael and whoever is online when I make cards always check mine to make up for my lack of interest in it), it is not... Gyah.

 

I sound like a broken record. And I open these discussions instead of testing the waters flat out and changing stuff on the fly out of respect (truth is NONE OF YOU HAVE A CHOICE), and I give you the choice anyway. But nothing seems to be sticking to the earsets.

 

Alas, I will keep trying.

 

@James: I haven't seen a card of yours have good flow in 2yrs, kindly show me one that does?

2 Years? Now that's a long time.... O_O

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-170716.html

Flow enough for you? I don't do Synchros much so be honred ;)

[Guest JoshIcy]

Good. Not a fan of Synchros anyway... Bleh. Not a fan of monsters much, but Im not going to complain more than this distaste.

 

And my point still stands .-.". If you people fail to read what is implied, and what is shown to you. I will cease these discussions and force you all to follow by whatever is decreed.

[J-Max]

Good. Not a fan of Synchros anyway... Bleh. Not a fan of monsters much' date=' but Im not going to complain more than this distaste.

 

And my point still stands .-.". If you people fail to read what is implied, and what is shown to you. I will cease these discussions and force you all to follow by whatever is decreed.

[/quote']

I'll warn you right now. Don't force rules like that on the members. Restrictions Yes but forced No.I may be lower then you on mostly everything to do with Card Designing but limitations will hurt everyone.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Good. Not a fan of Synchros anyway... Bleh. Not a fan of monsters much' date=' but Im not going to complain more than this distaste.

 

And my point still stands .-.". If you people fail to read what is implied, and what is shown to you. I will cease these discussions and force you all to follow by whatever is decreed.

[/quote']

I'll warn you right now. Don't force rules like that on the members. Restrictions Yes but forced No.I may be lower then you on mostly everything to do with Card Designing but limitations will hurt everyone.

 

Now you TOO?! Can you not read what is implied? I am fully aware that this section is not solely mine, that'd be crazy. I'd speak it out and flesh it out with a few people first, if nothing is fleshed out for a trial run it wouldn't happen (even this isn't out there enough to test as is).

[Kitty]

Again' date=' people miss the point...

[list']

[*] You would not be allowed to use more than 1 Keyword (like how FLIP is a single keyword in such cards.

[*] Confusion would be almost nill, because we would design it to focus on common sense. Though it is expected to be confusing at first (what change isn't?).

[*] The idea is so that people DON'T HAVE TO POST THE LORE. And focus less on presentation and more on the overall effect.

I'm starting to get really annoyed by all of you, not being able to read.

What is it that's bad about that?

 

What's so bad about posting the lore in the first place?

 

From what I keep seeing, is that generally people who post the lore have effects that suffer greatly. Worrying too much about how it's presented word wise, which is BAD! an idea regardless of mediums is not made up of words, only expressed with words.

 

Most effects look like a polished brick of wood because of the pressure put on them by everyone else, and a polished brick of wood is bland and uninteresting. My goal one way or another, is to make people realize that while Good Grammar is good (Azrael and whoever is online when I make cards always check mine to make up for my lack of interest in it), it is not... Gyah.

 

I sound like a broken record. And I open these discussions instead of testing the waters flat out and changing stuff on the fly out of respect (truth is NONE OF YOU HAVE A CHOICE), and I give you the choice anyway. But nothing seems to be sticking to the earsets.

 

Alas, I will keep trying.

 

@James: I haven't seen a card of yours have good flow in 2yrs, kindly show me one that does?

 

But Josh, having cards whose effects are close to realistic is the purpose of the Realistic Section. Am I right?

 

Though Shortened effects, in some people's opinion, are better. They would just defeat the purpose of a Realistic card. Wouldn't you think so?

[Guest JoshIcy]

No more than using a sharpened chisel to do what a knife can do in the short time. Of course there is places where a knife is clearly better, (more details and subtleness), using a Chisel to get the form is still much better and efficient. You aren't destroying anything. (I'd analog this to clay if I knew the name of the tools).

[Kitty]

No more than using a sharpened chisel to do what a knife can do in the short time. Of course there is places where a knife is clearly better' date=' (more details and subtleness), using a Chisel to get the form is still much better and efficient. You aren't destroying anything. (I'd analog this to clay if I knew the name of the tools).

[/quote']

 

But if the person would prefer to use the knife because it's they way they want to use it, would you penalize them for it? Although they know the chisel is better but they preferred the knife.

[Guest JoshIcy]

No more than using a sharpened chisel to do what a knife can do in the short time. Of course there is places where a knife is clearly better' date=' (more details and subtleness), using a Chisel to get the form is still much better and efficient. You aren't destroying anything. (I'd analog this to clay if I knew the name of the tools).

[/quote']

 

But if the person would prefer to use the knife because it's they way they want to use it, would you penalize them for it?

 

When the form itself suffers from a lack of shape, yes. (Rather known as having no life of its own).