Master Hyperion Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 When I checked the top 32 list, I was suprised how 11 decks with alot of DARK monster, only 4 of them run 1 Dark Armed Dragon. I liked the concept of a deck, but it choices of cards made me "lolwut" and "lolnoDAD"and netdecked the concept of the deck (bite me) and enchanced it to my own liking. After play testing, I was utterly shocked how a 3rd Caius works so much better than DAD, because Caius actually supports the deck, while DAD remains dead in my hand for most of the time, and I run 9 DARK monsters for christ sake. What happened? Do decks that don't run DAD don't even need DAD, because it doesn't help the victory condition or even worse, counter it, or is it because of the lack of Graveyard control? How can a 2800 beatstick with laughable summon conditions that blows up to field is now considerd to be terrible? What on earth did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 DaD is still good, I run him and summon him with ease most if the time, BW still <3 him and so do many other decks. While he is not a required monsters he is still pretty broken and should be run if your deck has any type of grave control. When it comes to the 3rd Caius thing I usual find myself looking at a dead Caius in my hand wishing it was a DaD. I guess it just comes down to space and preference because DaD is usually just splashed into decks that run DARK monsters anyway, he has not been a "win condition" since Tele-DaD....He can just win games when played at the night time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 DaD is in no way a terrible card.You say 4 out of 11 DARK Decks run it.How many people play actual revolving DARK Decks. Must in Blackwings, and tons of others. I still prefer it to Caius, because Caius has to be Normal Summoned. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Players who main 3rd Caius over DAD care more about consistency than getting sacky wins, simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 You say 4 out of 11 DARK Decks run it.How many people play actual revolving DARK Decks. 7 Infernities' date=' 2 Synchro Cats and 1 Blackwing Deck (lulz I miss counted. Thought it was 8 Infernities) managed to make it into the top 32 that either resolve around DARK monsters or have some Graveyard control. Only 1 Infernity, both Synchro Cat and the Blackwing deck run it. Blackwing have enough grave control and Synchro Cat runs 11/12 DARKs, so that should be enough targets. Infernities on the other hand, have their deck loaded with DARKs, but it seems that only 1 of them runs Dark Armed Dragon. I thought the have alot of Grave control to make Dark Armed playable in the deck. Players who main 3rd Caius over DAD care more about consistency than getting sacky wins, simple really. Understandable, but why not run both? Adds both consistency and sacky wins. :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Well, a lot of Infernities don't run DAD, seeing as he stays in the hand too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Well' date=' a lot of Infernities don't run DAD, seeing as he stays in the hand too long.[/quote'] this...in Infernities case as I see it...Dad doesnt help the OTK at all so I see why it is not run always...and we know infernities always go for the OTK. other than that...while dad is still a good card as always...I can't see his time is not this one...now DARK extremely grave control decks are not our main issue and the limitation of dad makes it unreliable to dedicate the deck to him.... Having it as a staple dont work so well anymore...Splashing it in Dark Deck still do work thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 he's just a bad card. Like come on, if you ever get 4 DARKS in your Graveyard he's practically useless./what a noob would say I find he's only not used as much these days cause alot of decks, i.e. Infernities go for the OTK and can't afford to have DAD in their hand. Even though he can be dumped through Grepher, he's just not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Players who main 3rd Caius over DAD care more about consistency than getting sacky wins' date=' simple really.[/quote'] Understandable, but why not run both? Adds both consistency and sacky wins. :I Maybe card advantage is more important in this meta, so the potential of dead cards is more of an issue. Also, decks that could run DAD but choose not to (IE GK/Flamvell builds) have little to no graveyard control apart from Pot of Avarice. Other builds such as Blackwings that have more control with Vayu (and Zombies last format) are more likely to play DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 DAD just isn't very consistent. Not only is it an anticipated threat, but grave management is hard to do consistently without managing your deck around it. Also, as mentioned, Infernity made up a good number of DARK decks. I adamantly state that running DAD is an incredibly thickheaded move if you use Infernity, I dont care how awesome it can be. I have an eternal grudge against that card for literally screwing up a sure win by me drawing it with 4 DARKs in grave, and Infernity Launcher in hand. And I shall continue to tell that story whenever DAD + Infernity is mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 not great in infernities, great in blackwings, suck a dick dad./topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 not great in infernities' date=' great in blackwings, suck a dick dad./topic[/quote'] We need to talk more. Lately, my conversations with Kiryu have pretty much consisted of me moaning about the meta being unfair =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 the metas not unfair, its just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 the metas not unfair' date=' its just stupid.[/quote'] Decks that don't let you have a turn are unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 the metas not unfair' date=' its just stupid.[/quote'] Decks that don't let you have a turn are unfair. Welcome to the OTK format... It's funny because alot of pure OTK decks are also gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodius Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 It's a +1 most often where Caius is a -1. I is also a mostly dead card, and Caius is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sacred Ninja Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 It's a +1 most often where Caius is a -1 Wasn't there an epic discussion about the Monarchs and their -1ness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 not great in infernities' date=' great in blackwings, suck a dick dad./topic[/quote'] We need to talk more. Lately, my conversations with Kiryu have pretty much consisted of me moaning about the meta being unfair =D You need to play cricket, then you'll be happy :D ily Seb <3 :D Anyways, you can't say Dark Armed is a bad card because decks don't run him now.It's just that many Infernity users choose not to have in their decks. Basically you're saying that DAD is bad in Infernities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 DAD is not a bad card at all. Many decks have this card as a second win condition. It is just that quite a lot of Unfairnity players don't run him because he lingers in your hand too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 wave motion inferno, into the void, allure = 7 cards that can get rid of him and he still lingers in hand for infernity players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 wave motion inferno' date=' into the void, allure = 7 cards that can get rid of him and he still lingers in hand for infernity players[/quote'] The first two are bad in infernities and the last one is limited... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Phantom Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 DAD is trash in Infernity, why do you say DAD is terrible in this format when it is terrible in Infernity? OH NO, DAD IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE NOBODY RUNS IT IN LS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 OH NO' date=' DAD IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE NOBODY RUNS IT IN LS![/quote']Lightsworns kinda fell from power this meta game due to lolKonami's limitations on some of their key cards, causing them to lose too much consistency compared to the lolXsabers4metaorbust and lolKiryufansunited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 DAD is trash in Infernity' date=' why do you say DAD is terrible in this format when it is terrible in Infernity? OH NO, DAD IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE NOBODY RUNS IT IN LS![/quote'] Finally, someone smart.ily curt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 DAD is trash in Infernity' date=' why do you say DAD is terrible in this format when it is terrible in Infernity? OH NO, DAD IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE NOBODY RUNS IT IN LS![/quote'] This guy knows what's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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