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Jaden vs. Joey Who would win

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If Jaden went against Joey who you think win??  

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  1. 1. If Jaden went against Joey who you think win??

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Jaden, easily. His E-Hero deck forms much better strategies and tactics than Joey's crappy monsters. Unless Joey has the Claw of Hermos in his deck. I still think Jaden would win then though, it'd just be quite close.

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both are as lucky as it gets but suriosly it would be a tie' date=' why? Jaden's Luck = Joe's Luck

are the same so it's in equilibrim which means it will be draw lol.

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Jaden isn't only lucky. If we're talking about his Haou / Yubel incarnations, he is pawnage incarnate.

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both are as lucky as it gets but suriosly it would be a tie' date=' why? Jaden's Luck = Joe's Luck

are the same so it's in equilibrim which means it will be draw lol.

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Jaden isn't only lucky. If we're talking about his Haou / Yubel incarnations, he is pawnage incarnate.

 

yea..Haou is enough tho...

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both are as lucky as it gets but suriosly it would be a tie' date=' why? Jaden's Luck = Joe's Luck

are the same so it's in equilibrim which means it will be draw lol.

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Jaden isn't only lucky. If we're talking about his Haou / Yubel incarnations, he is pawnage incarnate.

 

yea..Haou is enough tho...

 

Regular Jaden is enough for Joey.

 

Haou Jaden would beat like... Yugi O_o

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I vote Joey. Jaden is good' date=' but not good enough to beat one of the world's strongest duelists. Jaden could not defeat Yugi, Kaiba, or Joey.

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Jaden is one of the world's strongest duelists. When we first see him he is already on high-Obelisk Blue tier, even though he's only in his very first days. He then proceeds to defeat the Gravekeepers within an alternate dimension, then like four of the Shadow Riders, then the seventh, a man who has lived thousands of years and who has studied Jaden extensively and created a strategy that counters Jaden's, then Kagemaru, the man behind the Shadow Riders who has a deck designed to use the Sacred Beasts. He matches up equally against Zane who is already considered a pro-league duelist even before his graduation, then proceeds to defeat Aster Phoenix after acquiring new cards, a duelist who had defeated Zane in the past. He dismantles the entire Society of Light and essentially wins the Genex Tournament. In the third season he proceeds to survive through a series of challenges, the only time he gets close to losing being against Axel, finally to face-off and defeat Viper himself. After he and the others are transferred to another dimension, he defeats a whole list of duelists mind-controlled by the spiritual entity of a Duel Monster, then subsequently defeats that entity himself along with Jesse Andersen. After yet another dimensional travel, he conquers the Dark World by himself and rules it as Haou Jaden, again defeating Jim and having a close draw forced upon him by Axel. After he regains himself, he defeats the second-strongest being in the Dark World with his Fusion disabled. Then he proceeds to defeat Yubel-possessed Jesse, who had just defeated a much stronger incarnation of Zane and a person who wielded Exodia. Subsequently he fights Yubel herself, and even though admittedly he had Jesse's Rainbow Dragon and Haou's powers, it was still implied that he could have defeated Yubel had he not chosen Super Fusion to add to Yubel's hand upon Magic Chronicle's fourth activation. Either way, even that duel's outcome remains undecided, even though Yubel had used herself and her upgraded forms, extremely powerful monsters. Subsequently Jaden merges with Yubel while still retaining his ability to use Haou's powers, not only massively increasing his skill level but also enabling him to transcend dimensions and summon Duel Spirits to the real world. In the fourth season, he deploys those powers to defeat Agent Smith's clones (lol), one of them wielding not one, but two Five God Dragons, and all that without relying to his Haou power.

 

Compared to that, Joey's record is like... pathetic. Jaden beat two F.G.D. by himself, Joey would have lost against one without Yugi... Joey only managed to surpass Marik's Ra, because Marik underestimated Joey's ability to survive under conditions in the Shadow Realm - and it was eventually proven that Marik was correct in his initial assumptions - while Jaden defeated Ra by himself. Joey only did... anything even remotely useful during the Waking the Dragons arc because he had the Claw of Hermos, and then in the next one he was instantly wasted by Ziegfried. The only way Joey would be able to defeat regular Jaden and put a scratch on Haou / Yubel Jaden would be to consider him as his WtD incarnation, with the Claw of Hermos in his deck.

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It's just a show <_<

Anyways, Joey. Who knows how is Deck has changed.

Wow, Jaden has POWERS.

Ooohh magic.

Who the heck cares.

Joey is still the 3rd or 4th best duelist in the world.

Jaden isn't even in the top 10.

Neither is Zane.

Jaden defeated a FAKE RA!!!!!!!!

FAKE!!!!!!

NOT REAL!!!!!!

And Jaden beat 2 Five HEADED Dragon's by himself.

Does it matter?

Joey's still a better duelist.

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It's just a show <_<

Anyways' date=' Joey. Who knows how is Deck has changed.

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What the hell do you mean, "how is Deck has changed"?

 

Wow' date=' Jaden has POWERS.

Ooohh magic.

Who the heck cares.

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Who said anything about magic, Jaden's raw skill increases just by wielding Haou's powers, proven in his duel against Yubel. Not to mention he now actually has Yubel and Super Fusion in his deck.

 

Joey is still the 3rd or 4th best duelist in the world.

 

Prove it.

 

Jaden isn't even in the top 10.

Neither is Zane.

 

Prove it.

 

Jaden defeated a FAKE RA!!!!!!!!

FAKE!!!!!!

NOT REAL!!!!!!

 

Who was just like the real one.

 

And Jaden beat 2 Five HEADED Dragon's by himself.

 

Aren't they like the same card or something...

 

Does it matter?

 

Yes. O_o

 

Joey's still a better duelist.

 

I have presented a solid case as to why he is not, and unless you can disprove it with equally convincing arguments, your point is void. Joey has lost to like half the duelists in Yugioh. Jaden has defeated a trio of monsters better than the Egyptian God cards, and a lot even more powerful cards.

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Haha. I mean in the past time since Duel Academy started and the original season stopped, how do you know Joey hasn't been getting better and better and changed his deck? Jaden isn't a top duelist because he hasn't been in a world championship with the best duelists in the world, has he? No. Has Joey, yes. The Ra wasn't like the real one, because it didn't do the same thing it did to Joey, did it? No, it didn't. Jaden beat 2 Five Headed Dragon's wow, it doesn't matter what monsters they can destroy. You haven't presented a solid case. Jaden is a good duelists, but all of his duels are won by Luck, and Luck alone. Joey has Luck cards in his deck, well, maybe. It's been 10 years since the last episode, so it could change.

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Haha. I mean in the past time since Duel Academy started and the original season stopped' date=' how do you know Joey hasn't been getting better and better and changed his deck? Jaden isn't a top duelist because he hasn't been in a world championship with the best duelists in the world, has he? No. Has Joey, yes. The Ra wasn't like the real one, because it didn't do the same thing it did to Joey, did it? No, it didn't. Jaden beat 2 Five Headed Dragon's wow, it doesn't matter what monsters they can destroy. You haven't presented a solid case. Jaden is a good duelists, but all of his duels are won by Luck, and Luck alone. Joey has Luck cards in his deck, well, maybe. It's been 10 years since the last episode, so it could change.

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And that's what you are basing your argument? On a mere hypothesis on whether or not Joey has improved during the years between Yugioh and GX? How do you know that he hasn't given up dueling either? Besides, when you do a match-up, you don't just randomly say X vs Z, you have to specify which incarnations of X and Z you are talking about. I was referring to Battle City Finals Joey, the most common incarnation of Joey, and Season 4 regular Jaden. However, I doubt the outcome would change much, unless it's Season 1 Jaden vs WtD Joey or something.

 

The closest thing that happened to a "world tournament" in GX would be the Genex in season two, which Jaden technically won. Jaden does not base his deck on luck as much as Joey - he just has a lot of combos, so whichever cards he gets, he can do something with them. Joey's deck is far worse than Jaden's to begin with, even when he upgrades it with Jinzo (who is like, the only decent monster inside).

 

I don't remember the episode with the fake Ra, but I recall that it had all of the original's abilities, except... the godly powers of the real Egyptian gods, how else to phrase that. Which have nothing to do with duels. I don't remember if that guy used Ra's Phoenix form and other abilities though. Still, an Egyptian God is an Egyptian God.

 

What do you mean, it doesn't matter that Jaden beat two Five-Headed Dragons? Aren't they the same as FGD, the monster that nearly beat off Yugi and Joey together during the Noah arc?

 

My argument is solid, and according to all evidence, Jaden is better than Joey - the only way Joey can surpass him is by sheer cold luck, but Jaden does have a lot of it too - to be fair. You are overrating Joey because Yugioh took place on a larger scale than GX, which is limited to the Duel Academy, but still, the best duelists in the world are in the Duel Academy and the Pro League - Zane was stated to be one of the strongest in the Pro League and became even stronger by acquiring the Cyberdark deck, and Jaden surpassed him by defeating Yubel-possessed Jesse, who had just beaten Zane.

 

Anyway, it's an anime and it's card games, so the outcome is determined by the plot, but in a realistic situation, Jaden's constant fusion strategy would push Joey's regular monsters to an edge they cannot recover from. So for all purposes, and by all evidence:

 

Jaden wins.

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It's just a show <_<

Anyways' date=' Joey. Who knows how is Deck has changed.

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What the hell do you mean, "how is Deck has changed"?

 

Wow' date=' Jaden has POWERS.

Ooohh magic.

Who the heck cares.

[/quote']

 

Who said anything about magic, Jaden's raw skill increases just by wielding Haou's powers, proven in his duel against Yubel. Not to mention he now actually has Yubel and Super Fusion in his deck.

 

Joey is still the 3rd or 4th best duelist in the world.

 

Prove it.

 

Jaden isn't even in the top 10.

Neither is Zane.

 

Prove it.

 

Jaden defeated a FAKE RA!!!!!!!!

FAKE!!!!!!

NOT REAL!!!!!!

 

Who was just like the real one.

 

And Jaden beat 2 Five HEADED Dragon's by himself.

 

Aren't they like the same card or something...

 

Does it matter?

 

Yes. O_o

 

Joey's still a better duelist.

 

I have presented a solid case as to why he is not' date=' and unless you can disprove it with equally convincing arguments, your point is void. Joey has lost to like half the duelists in Yugioh. Jaden has defeated a trio of monsters better than the Egyptian God cards, and a lot even more powerful cards.

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ah your arguments aren't convincing either 2/3 of what you've said is prove it,prove it,WTF. Anyway I choose Joey for one Joey doesn't need to fuse to play flame swordsman guys he uses blue flame swordsman effect,second with stuff like skull dice and graceful dice on the field in Joey deck as soon as Jaden does some fusion to summon flame wingman, All joey gotta do is play graceful dice,multiply then skull dice,OH OWN AGE,not to mention he has raigeki,gilford the lighting and crap in his deck.

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