~Oleon~ Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Which is better?I'm doing a trade where my older brother, who still thinks the banlist only applies to tournaments, is saying that Jinzo is better than my SD/AM. Not in price, but in how it is. Tell me, YCM, which is better. Jinzo or SD/AM, effectswise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Saddam, of course...Jinzo can still be screwed by a lot of things, while Stardust is harder to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 He's just said to your comment: "But Jinzo is easier to summon, while Stardust isn't." *cough* Starlight Road *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 He's just said to your comment: "But Jinzo is easier to summon' date=' while Stardust isn't." *cough* Starlight Road *cough*[/quote'] yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Flamvell_Firedogyugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Flamvell_Magician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Jinzo is much easier to get out, obviously, but an in-play SD/AM is pretty incredible. Forget a better effect, it even has higher ATK!!! EDIT: Okay, not MUCH easier to get out, but easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I showed him.Here's the trade that's going on. My:Stardust Dragon / Assault ModeDarkness Neosphere - Ultra Rare (Possibly) His:Jinzo - Ultra RareMirror Force - Ultra RarePainful Choice - SecretPainful Choice - CommonZombie Master - CommonZombie Master - Common Basically, its 2 amazing cards for some banned cards, some under-used cards, a staple and Jinzo. We're making some strange under-banlist Decks. So, is this a fair trade? I said that you can get Stardust Dragon / AM on your first turn with Flamvell Firedog / Starlight Road, and he said he can get it on his first turn with Double Summon. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I showed him.Here's the trade that's going on. My:Stardust Dragon / Assault ModeDarkness Neosphere - Ultra Rare (Possibly) His:Jinzo - Ultra RareMirror Force - Ultra RarePainful Choice - CommonPainful Choice - CommonZombie Master - CommonZombie Master - Common Basically' date=' its 2 amazing cards for some banned cards, some under-used cards, a staple and Jinzo. We're making some strange under-banlist Decks. So, is this a fair trade? I said that you can get Stardust Dragon / AM on your first turn with Flamvell Firedog / Starlight Road, and he said he can get it on his first turn with Double Summon. >.>[/quote'] OMG, you can use one of two good cards to summon Stardust instantly, and he can use one bad card to summon Jinzo! O.O Seriously though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Marik Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 SD/AM can negate anything, Jinzo only negates Traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Stardust Assault completely RAPES the opponent with a rusty chainsaw.Jinzo just anal probes him with a metal lolly-shaped object. Which one would you rather play then? SD/AM can negate anything' date=' Jinzo only negates Traps.[/quote'] Thank you, Captain Obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 He's just quoted. Yeah' date=' but you don't have the cards to make it work like that to make it good like it is. Tell your friends at 'YCM' that and then make sure they know you don't. [/quote'] Still' date=' I don't have the cards. But whether if YOU got them or not it makes the difference overall, adding value. [/quote'] We don't 'do' 'overall.' Tell him what's right and what's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 He's just quoted. Yeah' date=' but you don't have the cards to make it work like that to make it good like it is. Tell your friends at 'YCM' that and then make sure they know you don't. [/quote'] Still' date=' I don't have the cards. But whether if YOU got them or not it makes the difference overall, adding value. [/quote'] We don't 'do' 'overall.' Tell him what's right and what's wrong. "Judgment Dragon shouldn't be worth so much in a trade between us because we don't have four Lightsworn monsters." Just don't do the trade. Seriously, it's not worth the trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Yeah' date=' but you don't have the cards to make it work like that to make it good like it is. Tell your friends at 'YCM' that and then make sure they know you don't. [/quote'] lolnonycm Tell him you don't care. "Oh, give me all your Synchros. It's not like either of us has any Tuners." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Eh.Whether you like it or not, burnspy, I need Mirror Force.Seriously.I only have 2/3 Staples IRL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Eh.Whether you like it or not' date=' burnspy, I need Mirror Force.Seriously.I only have 2/3 Staples IRL.[/quote'] I sorta figured you would need it, that's what the other comment I made in that post is there for. Try using that on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Eh.Whether you like it or not' date=' burnspy, I need Mirror Force.Seriously.I only have 2/3 Staples IRL.[/quote'] I sorta figured you would need it, that's what the other comment I made in that post is there for. Try using that on him. I would.But he has JD and Lightsworns.Running Pot of Greed. D: I've showed him all the comments and: Do you think that if every one of your friends on the forum say that SD/AM is better than Jinzo' date=' you think I'll trade? Then you're wrong. [/quote'] Also: Also' date=' we don't DO Banlists in this house, we never have and never will, and if you honestly think I will, then I will do anything to prove you wrong. Also, thanks for the hello, I was fine today and all, I managed to get a Victory Dragon and- [/quote'] I've always done the banlist. Damnit though. Just because he's older than me doesn't make him have the rights of knowing more than me. >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Just save $20-30 and buy a Mirror Force online. You'll get less hassle than what your brother's giving you. Mirror Force isn't even that important with Starlight Road all over the place anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Meh. Hassling into a trade > Waiting for ages for money. ...It's true, though. I damn want Mirror Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Hmm...from a utilization standpoint, SD/AM is obviously superior in its own deck. Jinzo can be put in almost any machine or even non-machine deck. It's a 2400, 1 tribute Trap negator, it's just considered outclassed because Monarchs have similar stats and actually get advantage, whereas Jinzo just seals them. SD/AM is far less splashable in a deck. Mirror Force is an amazing card, and is worth quite a bit, especially if in good condition. SD/AM was a tin promo, so they're probably not outrageously expensive, unlike Mirror Force, which gets hoarded like crazy. A secret Painful Choice could be worth something, so it's not the worst addition to a trade. I have no idea about Darkness Neosphere's worth. Stardust Assault is an amazing, amazing card. But it's relatively difficult to summon (but worth it). If you run Stardust Assault or plan to run Stardust Assault or if Stardust Assault is an extremely popular deck this metagame, don't even consider trading it. Otherwise, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Jinzo can be put in almost any machine or even non-machine deck. It's a 2400' date=' 1 tribute Trap negator, it's just considered outclassed because Monarchs have similar stats and actually get advantage, whereas Jinzo just seals them.[/quote'] In almost all cases, it would be smarter to remove Jinzo for Royal Decree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Thanks evilfusion. Anyway - I will probably never buy a card again.I just feed off of the good cards he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I showed him.Here's the trade that's going on. My:Stardust Dragon / Assault ModeDarkness Neosphere - Ultra Rare (Possibly) His:Jinzo - Ultra RareMirror Force - Ultra RarePainful Choice - SecretPainful Choice - CommonZombie Master - CommonZombie Master - Common Basically' date=' its 2 amazing cards for some banned cards, some under-used cards, a staple and Jinzo. We're making some strange under-banlist Decks. So, is this a fair trade? I said that you can get Stardust Dragon / AM on your first turn with Flamvell Firedog / Starlight Road, and he said he can get it on his first turn with Double Summon. >.>[/quote'] DO IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Good trade is good, you can easily get another stardust assault mode. SD/AM can negate almost anything, is a generic beatstick once brought out, is overall awesome, and gets owned by D.D. Crow. Brilliant card that is balanced by "difficulty" to summon and by having fair weaknesses.Oh, and it shouldn't be too hard to get another copy of SD/AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Guy Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 dont trade, but he does have a mirror force. Seems interesting. Not a good trade though. But if you do want to trade, I have seen commons of stardust dragon Assault mode. So buy the pack it would come in to possibly get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Stardust Assault is a Yusei Duelist Pack tin promo. Doesn't come in a pack and it sure heck isn't a common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Stardust Assault is a Yusei Duelist Pack tin promo. Doesn't come in a pack and it sure heck isn't a common. Duelist Pack 9, super rare, like 3 bucks. Not that rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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