jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 same as brionac' date=' 4/10[/quote'] ....... Buddy.. just get out. I hate noobs >_< no need to get mad dude, im just saying! Sorry, but i didn't realize this is "the same as brionac" and reducing 6 points because it has a somewhat similar effect to brionac is okay. I must've misunderstood what you were shooting for, because in my book, that's called trolling, and all trolls are noobs O.o So please, do share what you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toot Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 if someone were to put "your just an average white boy" as a sig' date=' do u think they would be called a troll? in my book, they would be called a megatroll![/quote']Oh, now i remember you!you're that noob who almost got me banned for being "Racist" against white people. Lol, you're a funny guy.But as you can see, you're the only one trolling my thread ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 other than u i agree' date=' im sorry for offending u :( and im not a troll, u cant call everyone that doesnt love ur cards a troll! sorry anyways bud, but change ur negative attitude![hr']and u act like its my fault your racist, its not! It was positive until you came.Urban Dictionary Definition for Troll:One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue. Basically, someone who says something without thinking and makes claims without any logical proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Chaos™ Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Jay Jack i just checked your Reps, Friendly Host has never given you a Neg Rep for being a Racist, although being a Racist is not cool Dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Jay Jack i just checked your Reps' date=' Friendly Host has never given you a Neg Rep for being a Racist, although being a Racist is not cool Dude.[/quote'] Ya, i noticed. It was a different guy O.oAnd I did change the "racist" comments in sig for the sake of this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 i mean no harm' date=' i never did anythin to u.. i didnt almost get u banned, YOU almost got yourself banned! chill dude![/quote'] Buddy, can you just drop it? You're being a noob when you keep posting about an off-topic discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yang Xiao-Long Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 And now to the card...Epic template is epic.Pic is great; fits the card perfectly.Effect is pure genius too. I don't think I saw any OCG errors.This deserves repping. 1,000/1,000ucwatidadthar? Congrats on 1,000 posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Chaos™ Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Seriously Friendly Host, what you are doing is just increasing your Post Count so please Stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 And now to the card...Epic template is epic.Pic is great; fits the card perfectly.Effect is pure genius too. I don't think I saw any OCG errors.This deserves repping. 1' date='000/1,000ucwatidadthar? Congrats on 1,000 posts![/quote'] Thanks <3Ya, 1000/1000 for 1000 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Impact Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 ~AuXiLiArY~ Wrote: And is it just me, or is the water attribute in Japanese???????? Ya, i did that. You got a problem with it? (Today 10:44 AM)~AuXiLiArY~ Wrote: That also means you can tribute summon from your grave. Can anyone say "Ocean Dragon Lord" Also, Legendary Ocean wouldn't work well with this card since it's effect of lvling reducing doesn't work in graveyard. Well lates think about that. Ice barrier tuner effects....cannot be destroyed by card effects or battle. So its easy to have two on the field. Next you have umi on the field for a power boost. Then you have an Ocean Dragon lord in your grave. You tribute those two summon it and use it effect when needed. AND THEN DO IT AGAIN. you also levia as well. How is that not abusable. And with the water thing i dont mind just trying to catch an error. Srry for being the only one to see errors in your card buddy.u seem to piss a lot of people off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Errmmm just to be smart ass in the official rule book it tells you that if a cards effect goes against the rule then you listen to the card not the rule book so if an effect says you can normal summon from the grave then you can normal summon from the grave which is the same as a card telling you you can normal summon twice this turn. Oh and there is no rule saying you cannot normal summon from the grave so wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited Edition KING Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 No' date=' it shouldn't be Special summon since could happen multiple times per turn. This card allows you to Normal Summon from your Graveyard, like a regular Normal Summon (i.e. from hand) and also wastes the Normal Summon for that turn. Also, you cannot Set from graveyard.[/quote'] Purhaps put a lock on the amount of Special Summons? Like, "Once per turn, the turn player can Special Summon 1 WATER monster from your Graveyard. The turn player cannot Normal Summon during the turn they Special Summoned using this effect." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 No' date=' it shouldn't be Special summon since could happen multiple times per turn. This card allows you to Normal Summon from your Graveyard, like a regular Normal Summon (i.e. from hand) and also wastes the Normal Summon for that turn. Also, you cannot Set from graveyard.[/quote'] Purhaps put a lock on the amount of Special Summons? Like, "Once per turn, the turn player can Special Summon 1 WATER monster from your Graveyard. The turn player cannot Normal Summon during the turn they Special Summoned using this effect." ....I don't see how this is not getting through your head.Look what the guy above you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Ok, lets talk Jay's card here xD. And I love new Ice Barriers tbh, they're just so fun. Your raw idea is this Synchro lvl9- Water Requirements [summon trigger-Select 1 Water Monster in grave, SS one with same name from Deck to field face-down] [As long as on field, can normal summon WATER monster from grave]. Discard as many from hand to Grave once to RFP that many cards]. Not bad actually, but why do I have a feeling with Ice Barriers this is far easier than you'd think? In a Ice Barrier Heavy Deck, you can EASILY fulfill these conditions with the deck. Lvl6 + Lvl3? Lvl2 + Lvl7? Lvl1 + lvl8? Granted the Level 1 Tuner would have to come from outside theme that isn't really bad. And doesn't Diva summon this like nobodies business? Way to go and make a broken card. Balance is questionable >_>" However, the idea and effort attempt is commendable. So kudos Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited Edition KING Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Errmmm just to be smart ass in the official rule book it tells you that if a cards effect goes against the rule then you listen to the card not the rule book so if an effect says you can normal summon from the grave then you can normal summon from the grave which is the same as a card telling you you can normal summon twice this turn. Oh and there is no rule saying you cannot normal summon from the grave so wtf? .....Seems I've made a mistake. I'm sorry for any trouble I may have caused.I'm just used to seeing Special Summons happen from the Graveyard instead of Normal Summons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Like I stated in my first post I agree with joshicy since it is supposed to be in a deck full of water monsters and it's effects are all based on using those water monsters so the restriction for all the effects is not really a draw back it just seems as you are forcing people to use this amazing card in a specific deck. P.s. Josh quik edit your post before anyone notices since it's lvl 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Ok' date=' lets talk Jay's card here xD. And I love new Ice Barriers tbh, they're just so fun. Your raw idea is this Synchro lvl9- Water Requirements [summon trigger-Select 1 Water Monster in grave, SS one with same name from Deck to field face-down] [As long as on field, can normal summon WATER monster from grave]. Discard as many from hand to Grave once to RFP that many cards]. Not bad actually, but why do I have a feeling with Ice Barriers this is far easier than you'd think? In a Ice Barrier Heavy Deck, you can EASILY fulfill these conditions with the deck. [s']Lvl6 + Lvl3? Lvl2 + Lvl7? Lvl1 + lvl8? Granted the Level 1 Tuner would have to come from outside theme that isn't really bad. And doesn't Diva summon this like nobodies business? Way to go and make a broken card. [/s] Balance is questionable >_>" However, the idea and effort attempt is commendable. So kudos Jay. its lvl10 not 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepulchure Lord Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Awesomeness+WATER= Emperor of the Ice Barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Added new card just for you guys.Mmmm.. I'm not so sure about that name. I'ma change to queen, hold on.Edit: Done. The name was originally: The Merciless Empress of the Ice Barrier. Now it's The Merciless Queen of the Ice Barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Ok' date=' lets talk Jay's card here xD. And I love new Ice Barriers tbh, they're just so fun. Your raw idea is this Synchro lvl9- Water Requirements [summon trigger-Select 1 Water Monster in grave, SS one with same name from Deck to field face-down] [As long as on field, can normal summon WATER monster from grave]. Discard as many from hand to Grave once to RFP that many cards]. Not bad actually, but why do I have a feeling with Ice Barriers this is far easier than you'd think? In a Ice Barrier Heavy Deck, you can EASILY fulfill these conditions with the deck. [s']Lvl6 + Lvl3? Lvl2 + Lvl7? Lvl1 + lvl8? Granted the Level 1 Tuner would have to come from outside theme that isn't really bad. And doesn't Diva summon this like nobodies business? Way to go and make a broken card. [/s] Balance is questionable >_>" However, the idea and effort attempt is commendable. So kudos Jay. Thanks Brionac that Icy appears... Balance is so questionable... still... I don't see a full use for an "Ice Barrier" Deck <_< The second is much better.... until I reach a second effect :/... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Impact Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Jay....do u see wat i mean about ocean lord. it can be abusable. You should make it so that you can tribute summon, or if u do you cannot activate ttheir effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 The second card again is really good just the last effect is a bit to powerful since that should be at least 1000 damage to start with I don't know if you want advice but I sugest that you shoul lower the damage to 200. 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 The second card again is really good just the last effect is a bit to powerful since that should be at least 1000 damage to start with I don't know if you want advice but I sugest that you shoul lower the damage to 200. 8/10 err....Is better if he just delete it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjack Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 The second card again is really good just the last effect is a bit to powerful since that should be at least 1000 damage to start with I don't know if you want advice but I sugest that you shoul lower the damage to 200. 8/10 err....Is better if he just delete it... Why would I delete it? It's pretty much the whole effect.This card is suppose to support WATER monsters' date=' so it'd already gain counters if you use a water deck. Otherwise, you'd need to pick at your opponent's monsters. And to be honest, you don't get much chances at a direct attack these days. Jay....do u see wat i mean about ocean lord. it can be abusable. You should make it so that you can tribute summon, or if u do you cannot activate ttheir effects I understand, but it still requires tribute and you still can only activate it's effect once unless you have 2 or more umi's. And frankly, it's just another otk strategy. Hell, not even otk, just a potential win that can be accomplished easily without this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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