http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Malefic_Paradox_Dragon

[.Nu-13]

“Born from threshold of the dimension of Darkness, time to lower the curtain on the stage of destruction! Synchro Summon! Appear Now, Sin Paradox Dragon!”

 

Discuss

[Mehmani]

MeH. IT's okay.

[byak]

It's godly.

If you have Skill Drain out, summon Sin SDD and gear, make this. Get a 4000 beater and a one time SDD.

[Mysty]

Well, since only one Malefic monster can be on the field at a time due to the effects of the many of the Malefic monsters, and Malefic Parallel Gear is a Malefic monster, this is near-impossible to summon. If Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, this would be worth summoning, especially if, earlier in the duel, you summoned a Synchro Monster and it was destroyed.

It's godly.

If you have Skill Drain out' date=' summon Sin SDD and gear, make this. Get a 4000 beater and a one time SDD.

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Unless there is a Stardust Dragon in your Graveyard that was summoned properly, you can't bring a Stardust Dragon back. A Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust can't be resurrected, at least partly because Malefic Stardust removes Stardust from play and Malefic Paradox brings back a monster from the Graveyard. that reason, and a Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust wasn't summoned properly and therefore can't be Special Summoned.

Overall: quite powerful stats if it could be summoned. If its effect worked like it did in the movie, that would be amazing.

 

EDIT: Even if Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, could you summon this? You can't Special Summon a card if another card prohibits the Summoning, even if the card you're removing to summon the card is the one prohibiting the summon. Examples of that:

• You can't Synchro Summon while Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo is on the field.

• If Macro Cosmos is on the field, Trap Eater cannot be summoned.

• Koa'ki Meiru Drago prohibits Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from being summoned.

I don't think you could summon Malefic Paradox Dragon unless the Level 8 Malefic monster had its effect negated. In other words, this card is almost unsummonable and requires the help of an effect-negating card.

[byak]

Konami would most likely print it as Parallel Gear tbh. :S

 

Also, Paradox revives from rfg.

Also, it ignores the summoning conditions.

 

Well, that's what it said when I read the page like a few weeks ago. >__>

 

And once again, it would probably have the effect I'm talking about, considering Malefics in the TCG.

[Mysty]

Konami would most likely print it as Parallel Gear tbh. :S

 

Also' date=' Paradox revives from rfg.

Also, it ignores the summoning conditions.

 

Well, that's what it said when I read the page like a few weeks ago. >__>

 

And once again, it would probably have the effect I'm talking about, considering Malefics in the TCG.

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Ignoring the Summoning Conditions does not mean "ignore if the card has been Summoned properly." Check the ruling on Level Modulation.

Remember that you do need a way to negate Malefic Stardust/Malefic Blue-Eyes' effect, or else its own effect will prohibit the summoning of MPD. Just check the rulings on the Earthbound Immortals if you don't believe me.

Knowing Konami, they'd probably put the "Field Spell needed" condition on this card as well. After all, it would be impossible to summon if it only allowed one Malefic on the field at a time. Konami would probably find a wording to allow for it being able to be summoned and have that "only one Malefic clause" as well.

[darkwolf777]

As Mystery Guest explained, "You cannot Special Summon a Nomi/Semi-Nomi Monster from the Graveyard if it hasn't been Special Summoned properly first" is not a Special Summon Condition. It is a ruling to the game itself. It cannot be ignored by "ignoring the Summoning Conditions".

[玄魔の王]

Well' date=' since only one Malefic monster can be on the field at a time due to the effects of the many of the Malefic monsters, and Malefic Parallel Gear is a Malefic monster, this is near-impossible to summon. If Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, this would be worth summoning, especially if, earlier in the duel, you summoned a Synchro Monster and it was destroyed.

It's godly.

If you have Skill Drain out, summon Sin SDD and gear, make this. Get a 4000 beater and a one time SDD.

Unless there is a Stardust Dragon in your Graveyard that was summoned properly, you can't bring a Stardust Dragon back. A Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust can't be resurrected, at least partly because Malefic Stardust removes Stardust from play and Malefic Paradox brings back a monster from the Graveyard. that reason, and a Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust wasn't summoned properly and therefore can't be Special Summoned.

Overall: quite powerful stats if it could be summoned. If its effect worked like it did in the movie, that would be amazing.

 

EDIT: Even if Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, could you summon this? You can't Special Summon a card if another card prohibits the Summoning, even if the card you're removing to summon the card is the one prohibiting the summon. Examples of that:

• You can't Synchro Summon while Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo is on the field.

• If Macro Cosmos is on the field, Trap Eater cannot be summoned.

• Koa'ki Meiru Drago prohibits Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from being summoned.

I don't think you could summon Malefic Paradox Dragon unless the Level 8 Malefic monster had its effect negated. In other words, this card is almost unsummonable and requires the help of an effect-negating card.

 

That's only if "Malefic Parallel Gear" has the regular Malefic effect. It may not. Hell, it may even have a TG Cyber Magician-like effect.

[Mysty]

Well' date=' since only one Malefic monster can be on the field at a time due to the effects of the many of the Malefic monsters, and Malefic Parallel Gear is a Malefic monster, this is near-impossible to summon. If Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, this would be worth summoning, especially if, earlier in the duel, you summoned a Synchro Monster and it was destroyed.

It's godly.

If you have Skill Drain out, summon Sin SDD and gear, make this. Get a 4000 beater and a one time SDD.

Unless there is a Stardust Dragon in your Graveyard that was summoned properly, you can't bring a Stardust Dragon back. A Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust can't be resurrected, at least partly because Malefic Stardust removes Stardust from play and Malefic Paradox brings back a monster from the Graveyard. that reason, and a Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust wasn't summoned properly and therefore can't be Special Summoned.

Overall: quite powerful stats if it could be summoned. If its effect worked like it did in the movie, that would be amazing.

 

EDIT: Even if Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, could you summon this? You can't Special Summon a card if another card prohibits the Summoning, even if the card you're removing to summon the card is the one prohibiting the summon. Examples of that:

• You can't Synchro Summon while Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo is on the field.

• If Macro Cosmos is on the field, Trap Eater cannot be summoned.

• Koa'ki Meiru Drago prohibits Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from being summoned.

I don't think you could summon Malefic Paradox Dragon unless the Level 8 Malefic monster had its effect negated. In other words, this card is almost unsummonable and requires the help of an effect-negating card.

 

That's only if "Malefic Parallel Gear" has the regular Malefic effect. It may not. Hell, it may even have a TG Cyber Magician-like effect.

 

It would have to have its ability be like Cyber Magician's, not have the regular Malefic effect, and have its name changed to Parallel Gear, since I'm sure that Malefic Paradox would have the "only one Malefic clause" added to the text as well(as well as the Field Spell required clause, but that one is irrelevant right now). That would be the only way Malefic Paradox Dragon would be summonable. If that would be the case, then this card is much easier to summon.

[evilfusion]

How appropriate that with a name like Malefic PARADOX Dragon, half the discussion is about whether it's even possible to summon because of the Malefic clauses.

[玄魔の王]

Well' date=' since only one Malefic monster can be on the field at a time due to the effects of the many of the Malefic monsters, and Malefic Parallel Gear is a Malefic monster, this is near-impossible to summon. If Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, this would be worth summoning, especially if, earlier in the duel, you summoned a Synchro Monster and it was destroyed.

It's godly.

If you have Skill Drain out, summon Sin SDD and gear, make this. Get a 4000 beater and a one time SDD.

Unless there is a Stardust Dragon in your Graveyard that was summoned properly, you can't bring a Stardust Dragon back. A Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust can't be resurrected, at least partly because Malefic Stardust removes Stardust from play and Malefic Paradox brings back a monster from the Graveyard. that reason, and a Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust wasn't summoned properly and therefore can't be Special Summoned.

Overall: quite powerful stats if it could be summoned. If its effect worked like it did in the movie, that would be amazing.

 

EDIT: Even if Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, could you summon this? You can't Special Summon a card if another card prohibits the Summoning, even if the card you're removing to summon the card is the one prohibiting the summon. Examples of that:

• You can't Synchro Summon while Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo is on the field.

• If Macro Cosmos is on the field, Trap Eater cannot be summoned.

• Koa'ki Meiru Drago prohibits Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from being summoned.

I don't think you could summon Malefic Paradox Dragon unless the Level 8 Malefic monster had its effect negated. In other words, this card is almost unsummonable and requires the help of an effect-negating card.

 

That's only if "Malefic Parallel Gear" has the regular Malefic effect. It may not. Hell, it may even have a TG Cyber Magician-like effect.

 

It would have to have its ability be like Cyber Magician's, not have the regular Malefic effect, and have its name changed to Parallel Gear, since I'm sure that Malefic Paradox would have the "only one Malefic clause" added to the text as well(as well as the Field Spell required clause, but that one is irrelevant right now). That would be the only way Malefic Paradox Dragon would be summonable. If that would be the case, then this card is much easier to summon.

 

Are the Materials ever on the field at the same time as the Synchro Monsters? 'Cause I'm pretty sure they leave before the monster shows up.

[Mysty]

Well' date=' since only one Malefic monster can be on the field at a time due to the effects of the many of the Malefic monsters, and Malefic Parallel Gear is a Malefic monster, this is near-impossible to summon. If Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, this would be worth summoning, especially if, earlier in the duel, you summoned a Synchro Monster and it was destroyed.

It's godly.

If you have Skill Drain out, summon Sin SDD and gear, make this. Get a 4000 beater and a one time SDD.

Unless there is a Stardust Dragon in your Graveyard that was summoned properly, you can't bring a Stardust Dragon back. A Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust can't be resurrected, at least partly because Malefic Stardust removes Stardust from play and Malefic Paradox brings back a monster from the Graveyard. that reason, and a Stardust removed by Malefic Stardust wasn't summoned properly and therefore can't be Special Summoned.

Overall: quite powerful stats if it could be summoned. If its effect worked like it did in the movie, that would be amazing.

 

EDIT: Even if Malefic Parallel Gear were just Parallel Gear, could you summon this? You can't Special Summon a card if another card prohibits the Summoning, even if the card you're removing to summon the card is the one prohibiting the summon. Examples of that:

• You can't Synchro Summon while Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo is on the field.

• If Macro Cosmos is on the field, Trap Eater cannot be summoned.

• Koa'ki Meiru Drago prohibits Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from being summoned.

I don't think you could summon Malefic Paradox Dragon unless the Level 8 Malefic monster had its effect negated. In other words, this card is almost unsummonable and requires the help of an effect-negating card.

 

That's only if "Malefic Parallel Gear" has the regular Malefic effect. It may not. Hell, it may even have a TG Cyber Magician-like effect.

 

It would have to have its ability be like Cyber Magician's, not have the regular Malefic effect, and have its name changed to Parallel Gear, since I'm sure that Malefic Paradox would have the "only one Malefic clause" added to the text as well(as well as the Field Spell required clause, but that one is irrelevant right now). That would be the only way Malefic Paradox Dragon would be summonable. If that would be the case, then this card is much easier to summon.

 

Are the Materials ever on the field at the same time as the Synchro Monsters? 'Cause I'm pretty sure they leave before the monster shows up.

 

That doesn't matter. Check the rulings for Earthbound Immortals. They have a similar wording to a similar effect. Actually, I'll just show the ruling right here.

If the effect of [Earthbound immortal] is negated by "Skill Drain"' date=' then you still cannot Normal Summon a second [Earthbound Immortal']. This is because the effect "There can only be 1 face-up "Earthbound Immortal" monster on the field" of the second [Earthbound Immortal] is still applied while the second [Earthbound Immortal] is in the hand.

I'm sure that rule applies to all Earthbound Immortals rather than just Chacu Challhua (which the wikia lists in the ruling rather then the bracketed Earthbound Immortal). I imagine this ruling holds for Malefic monsters and the Extra Deck as well.