Rules with more holes than a smoker's lungs

[Azmodius]

Demodded again, I meant. And Vacillated Emeth, I cannot agree with you more.

 

Is Icy really demoted?

 

He has screwed me over again and again. He really needs to chill and smoke Weed, Crack, Tobbaco or Anything.

[Lemniscate]

Just take a look at the staff list, Icy's not on there.

[♥ӞŁǚ℮Ӟ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ♥]

He got demodded from Super Moderator to Moderator. Though in my eyes, should have been removed from the staff completely.

 

 

Au Contraire, Mes Ami's

 

I think HE should be banned for "3 Months" instead of Rogue/Frunk/Reece/Whatever.

 

According to me, Frunk has been a MUCH better Mod then Icyblue/Joshicy

 

I'm gunna get banned for this am'n't I?

[Frunk]

Just take a look at the staff list, Icy's not on there.

 

 

To my knowledge he still is. I haven't seen otherwise. I don't know why he's not on the list.

[Cin]

Just take a look at the staff list, Icy's not on there.

 

 

He still has CC powers, I'm not on there and still have powers.

[Sander]

Just take a look at the staff list, Icy's not on there.

 

 

Just take a look at JoshIcy's account, he's still listed as a moderator

 

 

Au Contraire, Mes Ami's

 

I think HE should be banned for "3 Months" instead of Rogue/Frunk/Reece/Whatever.

 

According to me, Frunk has been a MUCH better Mod then Icyblue/Joshicy

 

I'm gunna get banned for this am'n't I?

 

 

Who knows? When it comes with the moderators on YCM, it's a 50/50 chance.

[Pikachu]

It doesn't really matter. Just someone with good, fair knowledge of this forum.

 

I've actually half-written a chapter of the Chronicle about Sartorism but never got around to finishing it.

 

 

*finish it, finish it, finish it*

 

I can easily re-write the club section rules, but rules for the WHOLE forum...nah.

[Frunk]

I added the chatlogs to the first post. All the evidence needs to be on the table, it seems.

 

@Pikadude: I may. I only hope my sources here can still be found with the new linking system.

[Luna Lovegood]

I remember the discussion on this. I can't remember the outcome

[♥ӞŁǚ℮Ӟ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ♥]

Damn, Gunna get banned in my first month....

 

 

 

Anyways, What do you think Icy would say, If he were reading this?

[Lemniscate]

@Luna: What? This quite literally just happened. How can you remember something happening in real time?

[Cin]

SR No idea, since he told me he's not going to read it.

[Guest JoshIcy]

It was just a mistake. You know this. I didnt even deal it, nor did I suggest it.

You wanna walk all you like, you wanna make a public display of a matter that was solved MINUTES after you logged in. Go ahead.

 

I should have know better and talked to you. I didn't, and yet it was finished, again minutes after you logged in. So now you're taking a personal vendetta and making a public mockery of it? Alright then. Have fun with that.

[Frunk]

I remember the discussion on this. I can't remember the outcome

 

Usually it's a good idea to read beyond the first sentence of a thread...

 

Anyways, What do you think Icy would say, If he were reading this?

 

I'm sure he will read it, though there's not much he can say, as what's done is done.

 

It was just a mistake. You know this. I didnt even deal it, nor did I suggest it.

You wanna walk all you like, you wanna make a public display of a matter that was solved MINUTES after you logged in. Go ahead.

 

I should have know better and talked to you. I didn't, and yet it was finished, again minutes after you logged in. So now you're taking a personal vendetta and making a public mockery of it? Alright then. Have fun with that.

 

Mockery? No. I've been done an injustice and it's important people know.

 

This thread is also about how the rules, in particular Rule 21, need to change.

[Sammidysam]

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It's essentially the same rule we have here. The only difference is we are a humble little site with reason to inforce such a rule. Anybody who leaves YCM (most just use both sites) will be replaced 10 times over within the hour.

 

^Reece said that.

[♥ӞŁǚ℮Ӟ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ♥]

It was just a mistake. You know this. I didnt even deal it, nor did I suggest it. You wanna walk all you like, you wanna make a public display of a matter that was solved MINUTES after you logged in. Go ahead. I should have know better and talked to you. I didn't, and yet it was finished, again minutes after you logged in. So now you're taking a personal vendetta and making a public mockery of it? Alright then. Have fun with that.

Now, Now, let's not get hasty, you did suggest the 3 months ban....

Mockery? I wouldn't call it mockery, I call it his rights to express his feelings about it.

There We Go Again With The Over-Reacting

[Guest JoshIcy]

Then change Rule 21, redefine it. But don't go walking over a situation that was solved very fast as soon as you logged in. So you were banned on accident, for what...? 30min (since you clearly werent logged in at the time)? And you're moaning and groaning about it?

 

@Above: That was just that wasnt it? I suggest 3 months turning a blind eye to what reason, it was just that all mods who broke a rule were banned for 3 months. No more to it.

 

And yes, expressing his feelings. Nothing to get riled up about, considering it came to a close quickly.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

There We Go Again With The Over-Reacting

 

It does seem like overreacting syndrome.

[Cin]

Rule 21 is in need of major change, or more enforcement. I can see a violation above me...

I tend to see that rule as this. 1) Give member 24 hours to remove - tell by PM. 2) They will usually comply, if not remove it yourself. 3) If they readded it, ban for a few days.

[OmegaWave]

Then change Rule 21, redefine it. But don't go walking over a situation that was solved very fast as soon as you logged in. So you were banned on accident, for what...? 30min (since you clearly werent logged in at the time)? And you're moaning and groaning about it?

 

@Above: That was just that wasnt it? I suggest 3 months turning a blind eye to what reason, it was just that all mods who broke a rule were banned for 3 months. No more to it.

 

And yes, expressing his feelings. Nothing to get riled up about, considering it came to a close quickly.

 

He's not complaining about how long it took to fix, he's complaining that it happened at all. There wouldn't be a need to fix it if it never happened. And it shouldn't have happened.

[Frunk]

Then change Rule 21, redefine it. But don't go walking over a situation that was solved very fast as soon as you logged in. So you were banned on accident, for what...? 30min (since you clearly werent logged in at the time)? And you're moaning and groaning about it?

 

It was no accident. It was incompetence, and, I suspect, bias.

 

And you want me, someone who uses the site a couple of times a month, to be the one to decide the rules of YCM - A site as complicated as you suggest?

[Lemniscate]

Josh, it's less about the punishment received, and more about the incompetence it shows on your part. The fact that you assumed he had been warned, and then banned him, for a small infraction that Reece himself admits would have been resolved had he just been asked to remove the link, is the problem. You say it's a little things, and seem to be making the case that because it happened in a small spam of time, that it shouldn't matter. But it does matter. It matters that you overreacted, it matters that the rules are archaic, and it matters that this be brought up, as leaving it in the dark wouldn't serve any purpose at all.

[Succubus Queen]

I'm quite good at writing rules.

 

The previous system, upon my overview, seems too wordy.

 

There is no need for twenty-four clauses with elaborations; only a few are really necessary.

 

Those essential include, basically three, proper content, proper conduct and punishments.

 

The absolute most important thing after the rules is enforcement.

 

Moderators must act quickly and diligently to maintain order and respect.

[♥ӞŁǚ℮Ӟ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ♥]

Icy, please tell me your not on drugs.

Nothing to get riled up about? Look who's talking.........

 

There's a difference between Moaning & Groaning and Complaining

 

 

And @VK

THANK YOU for agreeing!

[Guest JoshIcy]

It was a mistake, I apologize of the severity and should have known far better and I'm happy it was solved quickly. At one point in that convo, (towards the end and prior to Browarod saying it was me who suggested the time), I even admitted defeat and wanted to go revoke it myself albeit quietly "Can you give it a week while we figure out the new systems?" Me not wanting to post a thread, was a quiet way of saying it's my fault.

 

Alls well though, just some frustration. So fine. Lets talk about this broken rule shall we?

 

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Ok, so things HAVE changed a lot. YCMaker and Falling Pizza will notify us when a link bothers them. So those arent needed (malicious links are a given for removal and the 37forums was not malicious- well... maybe the people haha but sarcasm aside yea). Real Life Products/Non Internet related items seems to be subject to how its used as such websites recieve traffic enough and YCM wouldn't drop population suddenly because of it. Other websites etc, as long as its not involved in some cross site drama thats fine.

 

Penalities must be less severe, but still there or not at all just a slap on the wrist. The rest is fine yes?