Anakenu Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Monsters: Dark Magician x3Dark magician Girl x2Buster Blader x1Skilled Dark Magician x2Breaker the Magical Warrior x1Defender, the Magical Knight x1Gravekeeper's Guard x3 Magical Exemplar x2Flamvell Magician x2Junk Synchron x1 Counselor Lily x1Sangan x1Apprentice Magician x3Arcane Apprentice x1Frequency Magician x1Night's End Sorcerer x1Old Vindictive Magician x1Kuriboh x1 Spells: Magical Dimension x2Secret Village of the Spellcasters x1Dark Magic Curtain x1Sage's Stone x1Mage power x1Lightning Vortex x1Heavy Storm x1Mystical Space Typhoon x1Swords of Revealing Light x1Brain Control x1Smashing Ground x1Double Summon x1Star Blast x1Future Fusion x1 Traps: Magician's circle x2Bottomless Trap Hole x2Sakuretsu Armor x1Torrential Tribute x1Magical Cylinder x1 Extra Deck: Dark Paladin x1Arcanite Magician x1Tempest Magician x1Explosive Magician x1Stardust Dragon x1Iron Chain Dragon x1Junk Warrior x1Gaia Knight, The Force of EarthColossal Fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Duck Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Okay I only have a few comments for this- S-armor- Magic Cyclinder + 2 D-Prisons+Mirror Force Spellcaster decks aren't my forte, but trap card usage is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakenu Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 He doesn't have them. They are pretty rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthmunchy Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 -this+avengerDAD (or something cheap) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Kefka~ Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 spellcasters r barely teir 2 now if even that high <_<' if ur looking for something along the line of spellcasters try either a Secret Village of the Spellcasters Lock, or a Tempest Magican Burn deck, those r the only 2 decks i can think of that r decent for spellcasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Kuriboh Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wow so every deck has to be a top meta deck? You guys are forgeting its a game... you know for fun? Besides this is a solid deck that won't get highly banned or limited. I'm surprised dad lasted this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakenu Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wow so every deck has to be a top meta deck? You guys are forgeting its a game... you know for fun? Besides this is a solid deck that won't get highly banned or limited. I'm surprised dad lasted this long.Thank you omg finally someone with a understanding of the game lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wow so every deck has to be a top meta deck? You guys are forgeting its a game... you know for fun? Besides this is a solid deck that won't get highly banned or limited. I'm surprised dad lasted this long. This is for Anakenu and Arcane Kuriboh You post a deck here it will be evaluated next to top class decks. If you can't handle that then leave. This game maybe for fun, but you cannot argue that winning is fun. There is no real clear theme and some random cards. Like WTF is Kuriboh there for? Don't say cause he has a good effect or cause Yugi used him. Dark Magician should be in his own dedicated build and Dark Magician Girl is a bad card regardless of how you look at it. Contrary to popular belief Buster Blader (and Dark Palidan for that matter) are not all that great. I see that Secret Village is used, which is good, but why only one? Running more copies of your good cards let you draw them earlier and Village is actually a good field spell. I semi-apologize if I came off rude. I say "semi" because if you read the rules or even looked at other threads in this section you'd know this is how things are done. I truly hope you take this advice seriously or you might not enjoy your stay in the your deck section. Remember, we try to help making a winning deck. If you'd like a dedicated Dark Magician build I can post it if you don't mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakenu Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 This is for Anakenu and Arcane Kuriboh You post a deck here it will be evaluated next to top class decks. If you can't handle that then leave. This game maybe for fun, but you cannot argue that winning is fun. There is no real clear theme and some random cards. Like WTF is Kuriboh there for? Don't say cause he has a good effect or cause Yugi used him. Dark Magician should be in his own dedicated build and Dark Magician Girl is a bad card regardless of how you look at it. Contrary to popular belief Buster Blader (and Dark Palidan for that matter) are not all that great. I see that Secret Village is used, which is good, but why only one? Running more copies of your good cards let you draw them earlier and Village is actually a good field spell. I semi-apologize if I came off rude. I say "semi" because if you read the rules or even looked at other threads in this section you'd know this is how things are done. I truly hope you take this advice seriously or you might not enjoy your stay in the your deck section. Remember, we try to help making a winning deck. If you'd like a dedicated Dark Magician build I can post it if you don't mind? OK, the way you meta deck people play is you find the cheapest way to win through different Archetypes like Lightsworn, Blackwings, etc... anyway i was saying that the game isn't as fun if your guaranteed an almost instant win right at the start. Decks like Frog FTK are just retarded and boring i like a duel that's fun i would not enjoy saying that i won a whole tournament because of a deck that everyone knows about and is incredibly cheep ...lol wat ever lol its all good and sure id like to seer the buidl if thats ok haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wow so every deck has to be a top meta deck? You guys are forgeting its a game... you know for fun? YCM has this "fetish" where if you post a deck, others try and help you improve it.By this, I mean we try to help make your deck more efficient in order for said TC to be able to achieve his win condition faster, regardless of how messed-up it is.This way, you can still have a deck that fits your budget(provided, you have the cards we list and/or are willing to spend money) while still being relatively effective. Makes seance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Kuriboh Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 I was talking to the guy who told him to dump the deck for a whole new one. Also DMG could give you a 2900 monster with m- circle in this build. And looking at the good amount of tuners and counter users why not have citadel? You praise village but this seems high in counters... have you read an exemplar? All I am saying is you seemed to jump him for trying a new deck and then force feed him a broken boring meta deck. Maybe buster could come out but they all are decent cards it looks fairly easy to syhcro and arcaite plus tempest is usualy an OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 I was talking to the guy who told him to dump the deck for a whole new one. Also DMG could give you a 2900 monster with m- circle in this build. And looking at the good amount of tuners and counter users why not have citadel? You praise village but this seems high in counters... have you read an exemplar? All I am saying is you seemed to jump him for trying a new deck and then force feed him a broken boring meta deck. Maybe buster could come out but they all are decent cards it looks fairly easy to syhcro and arcaite plus tempest is usualy an OTK.Not one time did I recommend a meta deck. I have used spellcasters long enough to know that DMG is a BAD card. You say that it could have 2900 ATK, but that requires a DMs in the grave making it too situational. As for being "high in counters" you really don't know how to run Spell Counters properly if you think this has a lot of counters. >.< If you're going for Spell Counters then drop the DM , DMG and Buster Blader to add Endymion and Crusader. You would also need to max out Breaker. You see there are a lot of different types of spellcasters decks. There is no top teir Spellcasters deck, but that does not mean one cannot make a good deck with them. This is a list of spellcaster decks I can think of....you'd do better off with picking a version. (this does not mean you will run a set in stone deck because every deck has personal preference card choices) Spellcaster decks I know/used Tempest Burn, DM, Secret Village (varients), and Spellnarchs. @Kuriboh: If you're just going to keep saying his deck is fine and that everyone else is wrong then please leave, you will only confuse Anakenu while we are trying to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 OK, the way you meta deck people play is you find the cheapest way to win through different Archetypes like Lightsworn, Blackwings, etc... anyway i was saying that the game isn't as fun if your guaranteed an almost instant win right at the start. Decks like Frog FTK are just retarded and boring i like a duel that's fun i would not enjoy saying that i won a whole tournament because of a deck that everyone knows about and is incredibly cheep ...lol wat ever lol its all good and sure id like to seer the buidl if thats ok haha ...Lightsworns and Blackwings weren't remotely cheap when they were meta. Lightsworns were the most expensive deck in the format, and Blackwings were pretty expensive too between Vayu and Armor Master. The way meta people work, is they try to find the most efficient and consistent way to win a duel. Decks can be for fun and still win. I was like you once... When I was 16 and started playing this game again, I wanted to avoid being meta at all costs, but then I realized that decks are meta for a REASON. It's cuz they're good, and winning is fun, you can't deny that. Some decks are extremely boring and scripted, like Gladiator Beasts (in my opinion, it's the most scripted archetype there is, and I find scripts boring), but others are plenty of fun. In fact the guy you shot down instantly for suggesting another deck type, was suggest a FUN DECK for you to use. AvengerDAD isn't remotely meta, and it's very cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostinthemaze92 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 -this+avengerDAD (or something cheap) What? this thread is about the deck he posted... not about a totally different deck. How about something a little helpful? Something constructive? What is this I don't even... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YORK Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 What? this thread is about the deck he posted... not about a totally different deck. How about something a little helpful? Something constructive? What is this I don't even... Wooh! Now everyone in our duel circle is defending his deck.Im with "Anakenu" (what happened to your other..?) oh well..anyway,i might now really know what im talking about,but DMG isnt all that bad..and it WORKS with his deck..like,all those cards you guys have been telling him to replace or remove or whatever,those are all part of his strategy.He might not be like a master duelist or what-not,but i still belive he could (POSSIBLY) own at least half of you with his deck right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superskull85 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wooh! Now everyone in our duel circle is defending his deck.Im with "Anakenu" (what happened to your other..?) oh well..anyway,i might now really know what im talking about,but DMG isnt all that bad..and it WORKS with his deck..like,all those cards you guys have been telling him to replace or remove or whatever,those are all part of his strategy.He might not be like a master duelist or what-not,but i still belive he could (POSSIBLY) own at least half of you with his deck right now... I'm probably not the right person to be posting this, but you should at least consider suggestions you are given. I've built lots of Spellcaster decks, and Dark Magician Girl is not the best card to add unless you have a good way to ditch Dark Magician's, and even than you only gain 900 attack points maximum. You shouldn't make accusations when you do not know which deck(s) someone runs. I mean I could have an anti-Spellcaster deck and you wouldn't even know it. Now I'm saying that I would win, but the point is you can't say that a certain deck would win for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YORK Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 I'm probably not the right person to be posting this, but you should at least consider suggestions you are given. I've built lots of Spellcaster decks, and Dark Magician Girl is not the best card to add unless you have a good way to ditch Dark Magician's, and even than you only gain 900 attack points maximum. You shouldn't make accusations when you do not know which deck(s) someone runs. I mean I could have an anti-Spellcaster deck and you wouldn't even know it. Now I'm saying that I would win, but the point is you can't say that a certain deck would win for no reason. im not saying he would win for no reason? i know who he is.ive dueled him before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Ok, I'm kinda fed up with this crap now. I really don't care about any other poster in this thread but if you people cannot at the very least take criticism then never post in this section again. The rules of the Your Deck section state that decks are treated as "fix" topics. Which means we post ways to make it more competitive and if you cannot accept it then you shouldn't have posted it anyway. Twice I have posted HELPFUL advice, and it was ignored. I say helpful because the only thing I run IRL is Spellcasters, so I think I know what I'm talking about. I can't say I've ever seen 4 new members all join just to protect their friends deck. So one last time I'll go through this deck and say the bad cards... I highly suggest that all you new members read this thread.http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/182674-basic-deckbuilding-faq/ Monsters: Dark Magician x3 Bad unless in dedicated build, try Endymion, Master MagicianDark magician Girl x2 Bad, use Crusader of EndymionBuster Blader x1 Bad in Spellcasters, use Magical MarionetteSkilled Dark Magician x2 Breaker the Magical Warrior x1 Should be maxed, add 2 moreDefender, the Magical Knight x1Gravekeeper's Guard x3 I'd rather use Kycoo the ghost destroyerMagical Exemplar x2Flamvell Magician x2 Drop them both and add in Gale, the Whirlwind and PLZJunk Synchron x1 Counselor Lily x1 Uh....why? Drop this and add in another Arcane Apprentice Sangan x1Apprentice Magician x3Arcane Apprentice x1Frequency Magician x1 Too many tuners, add in another Old VindictiveNight's End Sorcerer x1Old Vindictive Magician x1Kuriboh x1 WTF? No reason in this deck, imo Spells: Magical Dimension x2Secret Village of the Spellcasters x1 Should be maxed, but this deck might lean towards CitadelDark Magic Curtain x1 Take outSage's Stone x1 If you ever get a chance to use this then you're playing a bad player and bad deckMage power x1 Drop for TerraformingLightning Vortex x1Heavy Storm x1Mystical Space Typhoon x1Swords of Revealing Light x1Brain Control x1Smashing Ground x1Double Summon x1 Eh...I don't like this personally, Allure of Darkness for more drawStar Blast x1 Take out for another DimensionFuture Fusion x1 Take out Traps: Magician's circle x2Bottomless Trap Hole x2Sakuretsu Armor x1 Dimensional Prison does it betterTorrential Tribute x1Magical Cylinder x1 Mirror Force? If you don't have one then drop for another Dimensional Prison I don't expect you to change. You'll probably say something along the lines of "This deck helps me win and you taking out all the good cards." I'm not asking you to do everything I say, but you have yet to acknowledge that I even comment. And if any of you did it was and form of NO. I did PM TC with a good DM decklist but unsure if it was taken happily. I do truly hate when people refuse to accept the facts... im not saying he would win for no reason? i know who he is.ive dueled him before.Duel any of us and we'd kill you. Even the Rebel would win, if you think this deck is good. I know download YVD and I'll duel someone online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 This is a funny thread. From what I can tell, TC receives criticism, a poster says to dump spellcasters for AvengerDAD which is far from the topic, personal army arrives and criticizes good players for playing good decks (mainly AvengerDAD posting person,) and complains that good players want quick victories. Good decks don't have to be tournament-winning. But, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't run a consistent deck. Inconsistency leads to frustration when you can never get your win condition out or play it too late in the game to do any real damage. Quick victories are best because longer games mean the higher chance your opponent gets their win condition easier. Also, long games are like female wrestling matches on WWE, boring. Quick matches are like good MMA fights, fun. Off the top of my head...Dark Magician Girl needs her deck to power her up quicker, not be splashed with a Spell Counter deck. Cards like Elemental Hero Prisma, Armageddon Knight and Dark Grepher would speed up dumping Dark Magicians. Magical Exemplar, Toon Table of Contents, and Toon Gemini Elf can help Special Summon Dark Magician Girl from your deck by racking up counters with multiple Toon Tables (Play one, grab another, and another, then Toon Gemini Elf.) Also, Apprentice Magician, Night's-End, Old Vindictive, and Crystal Seers can work through the Apprentice Engine utilizing Apprentice to SS 1 of the said cards, then Tributing it to summon DMG. Spell Counters...look for Jabber or Stein-Hakase. I think one them knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Kuriboh Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Monsters: Dark Magician x3 Bad unless in dedicated build, try Endymion, Master MagicianDark magician Girl x2 Bad, use Crusader of EndymionBuster Blader x1 Bad in Spellcasters, use Magical MarionetteSkilled Dark Magician x2 why are these here now? Breaker the Magical Warrior x1 Should be maxed, add 2 moreDefender, the Magical Knight x1Gravekeeper's Guard x3 I'd rather use Kycoo the ghost destroyer? Situationl removal with low atk for Mr. Back to the extra deck? Magical Exemplar x2Flamvell Magician x2 Drop them both and add in Gale, the Whirlwind and PLZ? Can get Lvl 8 & 6 plus he's a caster? Why not? Junk Synchron x1 Counselor Lily x1 Uh....why?(arcanite keeps atk) Drop this and add in another Arcane Apprentice.? The most useless one? Why not night or frequency? Sangan x1Apprentice Magician x3Arcane Apprentice x1Frequency Magician x1 Too many tuners, add in another Old Vindictive. Ok but you just added a less vauable one for lily...Night's End Sorcerer x1Old Vindictive Magician x1Kuriboh x1 Spells: Magical Dimension x2Secret Village of the Spellcasters x1 Should be maxed, but this deck might lean towards Citadel.... OK NEVER MAX A FIELD SPELL AND HAVE TERRA! DEAD DRAWS! AND CITADEL ISN'T EASY TO DESTROY! Dark Magic Curtain x1 Take outSage's Stone x1 If you ever get a chance to use this then you're playing a bad player and bad deck... M- CIRCLE? Mage power x1 Drop for Terraforming. NO! Insanely good attack for a virtual dead draw? You don't need exesive field spells cloging you.Lightning Vortex x1Heavy Storm x1Mystical Space Typhoon x1Swords of Revealing Light x1Brain Control x1Smashing Ground x1Double Summon x1 Eh...I don't like this personally, Allure of Darkness for more draw. Ok good comment. But that could give you any synchro on the first turn.Star Blast x1 Take out for another Dimension. Understandable but less situationalFuture Fusion x1 Take out. Why? Puts a DM in the grave. Traps: Magician's circle x2Bottomless Trap Hole x2Sakuretsu Armor x1 Dimensional Prison does it betterTorrential Tribute x1Magical Cylinder x1 Mirror Force? If you don't have one then drop for another Dimensional Prison.IT'S ALREADY POSTED THAT THIS GUY DOSNT HAVE THEM! and magical cylinder can win duels as much as you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakenu Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 ...Lightsworns and Blackwings weren't remotely cheap when they were meta. Lightsworns were the most expensive deck in the format, and Blackwings were pretty expensive too between Vayu and Armor Master. The way meta people work, is they try to find the most efficient and consistent way to win a duel. Decks can be for fun and still win. I was like you once... When I was 16 and started playing this game again, I wanted to avoid being meta at all costs, but then I realized that decks are meta for a REASON. It's cuz they're good, and winning is fun, you can't deny that. Some decks are extremely boring and scripted, like Gladiator Beasts (in my opinion, it's the most scripted archetype there is, and I find scripts boring), but others are plenty of fun. In fact the guy you shot down instantly for suggesting another deck type, was suggest a FUN DECK for you to use. AvengerDAD isn't remotely meta, and it's very cheap. I didn't mean the price of the deck ... *facepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 I didn't mean the price of the deck ... *facepalm* ...You missed the entire point of the post. You do realize you asked for our help right? By posting this here, you asked for us to help. And we did, if you dont want to take our advice, fine, then leave and continue playing your bad deck. Honestly, and I'm sure I speak for everyone, WE COULDN'T CARE LESS. If you wants us to help, fine, we will. It's why we're here in the first place, to give and recieve competitive feedback on decks. If you're gonna sit there and just say we're being meta and should shut up then stop posting here PLEASE. Your posts are a waste of server space at that point. @YORK: I'd love to see any of the boonies who joined for this thread to beat me. www.yugiohnetwork.com, PM me and I'll have a room open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakenu Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 ...You missed the entire point of the post. You do realize you asked for our help right? By posting this here, you asked for us to help. And we did, if you don't want to take our advice, fine, then leave and continue playing your bad deck. Honestly, and I'm sure I speak for everyone, WE COULDN'T CARE LESS. If you wants us to help, fine, we will. It's why we're here in the first place, to give and recieve competitive feedback on decks. If you're gonna sit there and just say we're being meta and should shut up then stop posting here PLEASE. Your posts are a waste of server space at that point. @YORK: I'd love to see any of the boonies who joined for this thread to beat me. www.yugiohnetwork.com, PM me and I'll have a room open.... no you missed the point of my post, that's why i posted that in the first place ... and wow calm down its a forum lol i don't mind criticism but its like you some of you people don't understand that we want help with the deck we are posting ...ya know ...suggestions... and yes you guys are giving suggestions but some of you people are being douche's about it lol and no one likes a douche... anyway its all good here haha i appreciate some of the posts.OH WAIT lol, and to the guy who was like: Put 3 of that field spell in and a Terraforming .....failjust sayinganyway its all good here haha i appreciate some of the posts. thank ya OH WAIT AGAIN I'm pretty sure that i would get destroyed BUT i would like to dual haha xD also i don't know what that kid is talking about i live in the middle of nowhere with only a couple of friends who play sooooo i guess he wasnt talking about me lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 *double facepalm* because a single one doesn't cut it for this topic If you don't want to use a Meta Deck or whatever fine. I get it. They're boring, they're cheap as in don't require any real skill because they're scripted but you cannot deny the fact that they win games. Just because you don't want to use a meta Deck, it doesn't mean you should use a terrible Deck. Just because a Deck isn't meta, it doesn't necessarily mean it is terrible. The Deck in this topic however is in fact terrible. You would be best off taking the good advice and criticism given or just leave if you aren't willing to accept it because all you're doing is just being stubborn and wasting everyone's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engetsu Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 This whole argument on Deck building is ridiculous. Build your deck how you want it to be, but it would be in your best interest to take the others advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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