Engetsu Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ally_of_Justice_Catastor Card Lore 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters If this card battles a non-Dark Monster, destroy that monster without applying damage calculation. This is probably the only good Ally of Justice monster... Discuss this card if you want, if there's anything to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Always run this at 1 in any Extra Deck. Along with Magical Android, this is the only good generic Level 5 Synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Use at 1. Ultra good. Makes all DARK monsters into ducks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='Engetsuzan' timestamp='1282875116' post='4569849'] This is probably the only good Ally of Justice monster... [/quote] Probably? It [i]IS[/i] the only A•O•J monster, as its effect is just overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyire Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 [s]Castrator[/s] Fine in an average Extra Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 I find this card to be terribly broken. It forces players to play more dark monsters to get over this thing. All it is doing is supporting the play of an overly supported type that already has 14 counterparts to other mostly widely played cards, having most counterparts being extremely good. Our most obvious epic dark counterparts: Dark Armed Dragon, Dark End Dragon, Dark Grepher, Darklord Zerato, etc. It seems Konami just wants this game to be played using only dark monsters and nothing else. Until this card is banned I like having monster destruction cards that are obviously broken such as Dark Hole, Judgment Dragon, etc, allowed in the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 It doesn't force people to play DARK monsters. The alternative is to use more destruction effects, Effect negators, Stardust Dragon, or cards like Book of Moon. Or run something that can't be destroyed by card effects. On the bright side, it'll deal 0 damage even if it has more ATK than a non-Dark. I don't think it's broken, but it's definitely OPed. I rarely see the thing survive more than a turn or two. Its effect only works against faceup monsters or if it itself is faceup. There are just a ton of counters and methods to get over it that makes it somewhat of a non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1282892230' post='4570371'] I don't think it's broken, but it's definitely OPed. I rarely see the thing survive more than a turn or two. Its effect only works against faceup monsters or if it itself is faceup. There are just a ton of counters and methods to get over it that makes it somewhat of a non-issue. [/quote] If a card is OPed it is broken and therefore banworthy and should be banned unless it offers a benefit to the game that it couldn't offer if banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopybuttoxes Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Good card is good. Whats there to discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='poopybuttoxes' timestamp='1282893165' post='4570382'] Good card is good. Whats there to discuss? [/quote] It's banworthiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Not every OPed card is broken, though. They're separate classifications in my book, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 forced to play DARKS? No. Just Dark Hole it. Or some other generic removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='Darkest Hour' timestamp='1282916048' post='4570759'] forced to play DARKS? No.Just Dark Hole it. Or some other generic removal. [/quote] Or Cyber Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Reminds me of Boost Guardian from Metroid Prime 2. Well, it has it's shape, it's a DARK, and it has a destructive ability. This card is already good on it's own, plus cards like DNA Transplant are good to use if your opponent runs a Deck with Primarily DARK monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='0-Chill' timestamp='1282917253' post='4570791'] Reminds me of Boost Guardian from Metroid Prime 2. [/quote] ARGH EVIL BOSS!!!! GOD I HATED THAT a******! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 It's the best level 5 synchro, and it's generic.... When you get it out, unless your opponent has darks, this thing wins in battle. Even on your opponents turn they are scarred to attack it. However, this is not bannable at all. Nobody has really considered this a threat due to all of the remove/destruction cards that exist today. Plus, it only has 2200 ATK, which alot of things can run over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1282916501' post='4570772'] Or Cyber Dragon. [/quote] Or Mushroom Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1282920128' post='4570936'] It's the best level 5 synchro, and it's generic.... When you get it out, unless your opponent has darks, this thing wins in battle. Even on your opponents turn they are scarred to attack it. However, this is not bannable at all. Nobody has really considered this a threat due to all of the remove/destruction cards that exist today. Plus, it only has 2200 ATK, which alot of things can run over. [/quote] Here is a great quote I learned from Crab Helmet just after Dark Armed Dragon came out. i said "But it is so easy to kill. For example you can Bottomless it!" [quote=crab helmet]Counterability does not effect playability. Just because something CAN be stopped doesnt mean it is not broken.[/quote] I may have paraphrased but thats basically what he told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Weak to Grand Mole. Everything else has already been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 In the DT, it resembles a vibrator. Really. I did it. I laughed. OT: Great Generic Synchro is Great Generic Synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 My bro called it Catastrator.... Anyways, great Synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1283035862' post='4576237'] Weak to Grand Mole. Everything else has already been said. [/quote] If I attack my opponents Cataster with Grand Mole, which effect would work? Would Mole get to bounce before Cataster makes Mole explode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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