Redefining AoC

[Icy]

[font="Lucida Console"]"Any card that is Obscure, affects things outside the card game or performs an effect that may be considered over the top or ridiculous. Such as dealing with card password numbers or Set IDs. This may not be a complete definition and it will be added as time goes on, but please remember that just because it works like a Realistic Card does not mean it is."
~ New Definition for what Any Other Cards is, in addition to everything that is implied.
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I would have added this sooner, but alas there were Mod Issues that came up for the last 3 days. Please report any thread in the other sections that follow this into this thread so I may react to it sooner. And if you have any problem with this definition or would like to add onto it, please state so and I will follow suit shortly thereafter.

I am aware this will turn Any Other Cards into a Mini Realistic Cards section for a brief period, where everyone buffers into it. But I believe it will be worthwhile. This is to give AoC added use and more discussions that fit into it's area, but mandating it.

[Deustodo]

So it means it will be same spamhole but with reasons to be a spamhole or you will do something about this place to change it? Just asking.

[Icy]

One step at a time Deus. It will change over time and since such cards in RC and other sections are generally seen as quality, it should lessen the SPAM naturally albeit however little.

It seems more beneficial to give it a purpose before cutting down on the SPAM problem.

[J-Max]

Josh, I take off my hat to you. This is one of the most logical thigsa I have heard to describe AoC. I'm still on the sidelines to help with any Tutorials or to give a Newbies a helping hand to get them into Realistic. May I suggest a Marshall Law on Joke cards though. It's about time we snuffed them out.

[Smesh]

I would add card modifications, such as sub-types, fake-types, etc.

[Icy]

A single thread is of no consequence, a neat trash to see is better than none at all. At least when it comes to ideas; so a total martial law is bad but giving them like a Zoo to hang out is actually beneficial.

As for Tutorials, I honestly do not see why not. Just get me like... A Petition with 15 people saying it'll be ok for them to be here and add activity.

@Above: There are certain situations where they can be realistic, so I'll think about it.

[Deustodo]

I still don't get it why you forbid Member Card Centers.

[Icy]

Because when Member cards were started, they were like Reps and made and give as a sincere gesture that we appreciate this member. I noticed a specific pattern with "Member Card Centers" that made them basically like this (which completely deviates from their original design);
[quote='Member Card Maker']
Post your written card and include your name on it, and I'll give it an image.[/quote]
I ask you, how is that in any way not Spam? They were forbidden in Shops on this forum for a reason, what would make you think it'd be ok in Custom Cards?

[J-Max]

All right Josh, the Petition is up in C&S. I may not be a Mod at the moment but I still care deeply for the Custom Cards section. Let's do this together mate

[Smesh]

Well why not put some rules against it besides forbid them?

[Icy]

[quote name='J-Max' timestamp='1283815138' post='4608324']
All right Josh, the Petition is up in C&S. I may not be a Mod at the moment but I still care deeply for the Custom Cards section. Let's do this together mate
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Despite me playing a part in your banning (you did go too far) it did infuriate me to see you get demoted a little. [color=white]Other mods deserve it more me thinks.[/color]

@iSmesh!: I did not forbid Member Cards, I forbid the centers that make them to what I stated.

[Deustodo]

Because he hadn't thought that far ahead. And Josh, you pretty much forbid Member Card as well.

[Icy]

[quote='Against Member Cards?']
... But I've been locking Member threads for being "I'll make your Card For You" Threads. I want you all to understand that Member cards are supposed to be genuine and YOUR OWN interpretation of that person in card form. Not just something with a persons name on it, otherwise it's just a Normal Custom Card and you're spamming because you're doing their work for them. This will be added on the rules within the next couple days. [/quote]

Where did I specifically say that Member Cards are forbidden? Just the shops that bastardize them.

[Deustodo]

You didn't say you forbid them, but you let the idea that you did by locking the Member Card Centers.

[Smesh]

So, let's say I open a member card shop, here's the app

name:
lvl:
attribute:
personality?:
etc.

Would that be locked?

[Icy]

I was careful not to say that Member Cards themselves were forbidden at all. That'd make me a hypocrite. If there was a communication error, I apologize.

@Above: You will NOT open a shop, you will not open a Center. If you require those details you aren't making a Member Card for a sincere reason at all.

[J-Max]

Josh, this probally is not the right place to ask but could you please put in a word for me in the Mod Forum? I screwed up before but I didn't deserve a full Demotion. Something tells me that when the Server was changed because I was in the Banned Group it kept me there and stripped my powers. I'm sorry for all the wrongs I have caused but Custom Cards is like a child to me I care for it tjat much.

[Deustodo]

If I open a thread where I put Member Cards that I made for people who I think who deserve it, would it be locked?

[Icy]

Honestly, with the way things are going with the Mods right now I wouldn't want to (not liking it- I just want to deal with Custom Cards while on YCM). It'd just add more piles of mess on top of an already nasty one. But when it calm's down sure.

@Above: If you made it without having to ask, nope. It'd be perfectly legit.

[Smesh]

So, I have a friend, i make them a member card, then I put it in my member card thread. Now, what If someone asks "can I have one?" would that be under my discretion, or do I just say "no, I only give them to members as gifts"?

[Icy]

It'd be at your discretion.

[encapturer]

I don't know about that definition provided in the first post... it makes the forum seem bipolar; a mashup between two very different purposes.

Look at it this way, Realistic cards is the forum where cards are posted that could possibly be a card that would appear in the real life card game, correct?
Therefore the other forums would have to be "not realistic" for some reason, else they'd go into Realistic cards instead.
Cards featuring copyrighted images and content is one reason why a card would not be made, so Pop Culture is made to house those cards.
Now, any other cards implies cards that are not realistic, but are not pop culture references. This leaves Joke Cards (shoehorned into its own thread), and Dark Synchros and their support (due to a clause in Realistic Cards).

Now, the definition provided seems to include Meta cards. Not meta as in metagame, but meta as in meta-game. Cards that are aware that they are cards and that there are people playing the game and are not just unknown entities doing... stuff. There are some [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Convulsion_of_Nature"]meta[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Jo_Friendship"]cards[/url] that exist, but they are rare. Even then, I would argue that a well-made meta card that is not a joke card (or something outright declared *not* a realistic card like the aforementioned Dark Synchros), should be considered realistic and it's really awkward to find cards here when I expect over-the-top cards and silly ones.

As it stands now, this forum has become "Joke Cards, Anime cards, Realistic Meta, and Unrealistic Meta". I know you are still in the process of creating a place for this forum on the board. I just hope you take my ramblings into consideration. Thanks.

[Icy]

[quote name='encapturer' timestamp='1284322669' post='4621635']
There are some [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Convulsion_of_Nature"]meta[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Jo_Friendship"]cards[/url] that exist, but they are rare. Even then, I would argue that a well-made meta card that is not a joke card (or something outright declared *not* a realistic card like the aforementioned Dark Synchros), should be considered realistic and it's really awkward to find cards here when I expect over-the-top cards and silly ones.

As it stands now, this forum has become "Joke Cards, Anime cards, Realistic Meta, and Unrealistic Meta". I know you are still in the process of creating a place for this forum on the board. I just hope you take my ramblings into consideration. Thanks.
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Yes cards like that are considered AoC under this rule. And yes that is how it is decided, as it was designed to up general quality in this section, since it does fit under this definition nice and snugly.

As for the rest, Joke Cards do not belong here or on any forum on YCM. Save for 2 specific threads. AoC has one, and WC ended up having one (albeit to my surprise but it is a valid and humorous thread). Cartoon (I refer to Anime by the Natural English name due to reasons I will not explain here) Cards belong soley inside Pop Culture. And Realistic Meta would just be an honest accident.

And I appreciate the good will ^^.