Expelsword Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100325145861/yugioh/images/5/5f/ExternalPeace-JP-Anime-5D.png[/img] "Until the End Phase, Spell and Trap Cards cannot be activated, and monsters cannot be destroyed by battle. Also, when your opponent takes damage, you can destroy 1 of your opponent's Spell or Trap Cards, and draw 1 card." I'm thinking Shooting Star Dragon for possible +10 and game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 If you revealed 5 Tuners with SSD, you should win, not go on a massive draw + S/T rampage. Was used awesomely in the anime, and could see play as some sort of tech, although the fact the monsters aren't destroyed makes it crucial you determne whether they have F/Ds worth stopping in exchange. The draw is a nice little bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1287251047' post='4709556'] If you revealed 5 Tuners with SSD, you should win, not go on a massive draw + S/T rampage. Was used awesomely in the anime, and could see play as some sort of tech, although the fact the monsters aren't destroyed makes it crucial you determne whether they have F/Ds worth stopping in exchange. The draw is a nice little bonus. [/quote] Seems like it would be a game ender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 This card would be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote]Until the End Phase, Spell and Trap Cards cannot be activated...[/quote] broke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Duelist Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Bannable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Chainable Cold Wave that gives you pluses and can be activated at any time. wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 At least they never printed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='Byakk' timestamp='1287254384' post='4709685'] hilarious. [/quote] this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Even if you cut it's effect in half it's broken. This thread is going to be a "lolz broken card is broken" and will generate no thorough discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1287257921' post='4709917'] Even if you cut it's effect in half it's broken. This thread is going to be a "lolz broken card is broken" and will generate no thorough discussion. [/quote] I agree, so let's do this the fun way. [img]http://www.englishforum.ch/attachments/family-matters-health/98d1158920230-kindergartens-oerlikon-zurich-hijack.gif[/img] Answer the question and discuss the answers from the YCM members: How should this effect be changed to make this card perfectly balanced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 change the effect to "you must activate this at the start of the main phase" followed by "Until the end phase, you cannot activate/set spells and traps" and just to make sure you don't get any +1s, change the rest to "special summon 3 "shapesnatch" from your deck" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1287266960' post='4710423'] Answer the question and discuss the answers from the YCM members: How should this effect be changed to make this card perfectly balanced? [/quote] [quote name='Eternal Peace']Until the [s]E[/s][b]e[/b]nd [b]of this[/b] Phase, Spell and Trap Cards cannot be activated [b]and are negated[/b], and monsters cannot be destroyed by battle. Also, when your opponent takes damage, you can destroy 1 of your opponent's Spell or Trap Cards, and d[s]raw[/s][b]iscard[/b] 1 card [b]or destroy one of your one Spell or Trap cards and draw 1 card[/b].[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Maybe something like this. "This card can only be activated during the Battle Phase when both players control at least one monster. During this turn's Battle Phase, the effects of all Spells and Traps are negated and monsters cannot be destroyed in battle. Whenever a player takes battle damage, their opponent selects one Spell or Trap card on the field and destroys it. A player who has a card destroyed by this effect draws 1 card." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 This doesn't seem much worse than Bamboo Shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1287285113' post='4711197'] This doesn't seem much worse than Bamboo Shoot. [/quote] you deserve a cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 [quote]This doesn't seem much worse than Bamboo Shoot.[/quote] >implying that Bambooshoot is good/broken. >implying that this is not almost as broke as cold wave. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 lol. What makes this good and Bamboo Shoot bad in your opinion? Bamboo Shoot is this, one sided, permanent, on legs, and without the drawbacks. Maybe it is or isn't broken but that's besides the point, which is, if one is broken the other should be as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 idk Maybe it's because it requires you to run a terrible archetype. It's dead most of the time. Doesn't have any surprise factor. Every deck mains about 5-6 outs to it. We are in Trap Stun format and this is about twice as good as it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 May it never be printed. Its just too good, period. It would be an insult to the anime version to nerf it into printability, and would be instabanned if it were unchanged from the anime. No point to this discussion, other that figuring out ways to make this card so bad that its printable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 How was it used in the Anime that everyone is so excited about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hardly a reason to get excited about it. Yusei vs Jean. (Team Unicorn) Jean LP: 1000 Yusei LP: 1400 Jean activated this and attacked Yusei's Stardust Dragon (ATK: 2500) with Lightning Tricorn (ATK: 2800). Yusei LP: 1100. With this effect, Yusei's F/D Cosmic Blast was destroyed, and Jean drew a card. Had Jean not used this, he noted Cosmic Blast would have taken out 2500 of his LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Wow, that's a good card too^ anyway, I figure Change Synchron can also abuse this card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Almost all multi-atackers can abuse this card. Cosmic Blast is broken. It's the anime card that could be abused sooooo easily but almost never is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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