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[quote name='Flinsbon' timestamp='1289259573' post='4772639']
I'm not saying the term lengths must be changed. They're fine. It's just that we need multiple presidents in a row that are from the same party or nothing will ever get completed. However, the first half of your statement couldn't be more right.

@GenzoTheHarpist - Yes I know too much of anything is bad, but we need a significant period of time for anything to be finished. My point is that the constant alternating of the government needs to stop. Right now, the majority of America doesn't want Obama back in office. But if a Republican is elected in 2012, then 4 years from now everything will be reversed and the Republicans will be under fire from the Democrats. Then the Democrats will regain control and everything will repeat itself. Meanwhile, nothing will actually get done to help the economy.
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By that logic the most developed and prosperous countries would all be one-party dictatorships. Actually in most developed country, no party at all has a majority and they have to *gasp* form coalitions to get things done.
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[quote name='Flinsbon' timestamp='1289197725' post='4771157']
Now I admit that I am a Democrat, but I will say this with no intention of any bias. To all of America - in the 2012 election, reelect Obama. In the 2016 election, elect another Democratic president and keep him in for 8 years. Then elect another Democratic president and keep him for 8 years. Honestly, just keep electing Democrats into office until we get this economy fixed.

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P.S. To any of you who still want to elect a Republican president in 2010 just to get Obama out, I say this. Go away and don't vote. You're being selfish at this point.[/quote]

Wait, you have liberal political ideals and want a liberal president, yet anyone voting Republican is considred selfish? Lawl. "It's only ignorance and selfishness when it goes against my political views!"
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I'm following logic here, not my political views. If we had a Republican president right now, I'd just as soon say we should just keep him in and elect some Republicans in the future.

@GenzoTheHarpist - I said too much of anything is bad and Parties are no different. If either party is in control for too long, things get bad. It's just that right now the economy calls for continuous control of a single Party in the government for longer than 8 years. When things ease back to a more stable state, then Republicans and Democrats can go back to fighting all they want and exchanging control every 8 years, but right now, the struggle needs to be set aside and the well-being of the country needs to be the priority.
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[quote name='Flinsbon' timestamp='1289359950' post='4775037']
@GenzoTheHarpist - I said too much of anything is bad and Parties are no different. If either party is in control for too long, things get bad. It's just that right now the economy calls for continuous control of a single Party in the government for longer than 8 years. When things ease back to a more stable state, then Republicans and Democrats can go back to fighting all they want and exchanging control every 8 years, but right now, the struggle needs to be set aside and the well-being of the country needs to be the priority.
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You sound like Fidel Castro explaining why he can't have free elections.
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Here's a quick lesson:

President: Democratic
Congress: Democratic

President attempts to introduce standard Democratic legislation. Republicans reject it out of hand. Democrats avoid associating with it because for some reason supporting anything introduced by a Democratic president somehow causes them to auto-lose the next election.

President: Democratic
Congress: Republican

President keeps radical legislation from both sides off the table for the most part. Excitement generally avoided.

President: Republican
Congress: Republican

Patriot Act is rammed through, President uses illegal wire-tapping, habeus corpus is suspended, combatants are held in American territories and tortured, tax cuts for the wealthy are passed most years.

President: Republican
Congress: Democratic

Congress keeps radical legislation from both sides off the table for the most part. Excitement generally avoided.

Someone's probably going to pull out how X, Y, or Z contradicts what I'm saying, and they're...probably right.
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[quote name='Revenant Black' timestamp='1289802062' post='4786432']
f*** is wrong with these people? [s]Bush[/s] America left that s*** on Obama's lap, and he's to blame cuz he can't clean it up INSTANTANEOUSLY?
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Fixed. But yeah, our situation is just getting worse with each presidency, we can't blame ones we don't like for all our problems.
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