Father Wolf Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1131462p1.html Now it doesn't seem like a big deal but if this gets though video games might suffer some harsh times ahead because it wont be protected by [s]rules 1 and 2[/s] the first amendment. And this doesnt go for just the US every government based on ours might fallow suite.... except for Australia they already suck. Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDemonX Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Intertesting good thing its not happening in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I forget where I saw it, but I watched something that made me worried about the government abusing the hell out of this law with what they define as "violent". On the other hand, I would imagine that a nice portion of the Supreme Court in favor of big businesses like Gamestop would be glad to side the gaming industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby746 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I don't get what the would accomplish by diong this. Most, if not all stores ask for ID or parental permission anyway. All it would be doing is hurting all the companies that sell video games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 There was article in the Game informer about this Also and what is the piont of this? I mean childs ask their parents to buy them "violent" video games and its not like they have not seen "violent" movies or documentaries on t.v. or watch a few on youtube.... Seriously this is accomplishing NOTHING stupid people being being stupid as usual. Also childern already know about violence and i am pretty sure all childern have seen a gun or two <.< and the fact that there is always violence... Person playing Call of Duty "Alright a Headshot" and? big deal not like you can't find a video of someone doing that on the internet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [i]In 2005, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill that opposed the sale of violent games to minors and would fine retailers up to $1,000 for each violation.[/i] Sounds fine to me. They don't already prohibit the sale of violent games to minors? I thought that was kind of a given with the whole "ESRB" rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby746 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1288663374' post='4756172'] [i]In 2005, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill that opposed the sale of violent games to minors and would fine retailers up to $1,000 for each violation.[/i] Sounds fine to me. They don't already prohibit the sale of violent games to minors? I thought that was kind of a given with the whole "ESRB" rating. [/quote] Some stores must not if the Governer wants to make it an official law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 And why does the Government think kids are stupid? i mean all they have to do is get their parents to go into game retail store and buy it come home and give it them... Seriously this will accomplish nothing as i've stated before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Old news is old. The supreme court, if not full of idiots, will probably see video games as a true art form and protect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I personally don't care what happens either way. I'm 18, I can buy whatever games I want now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDemonX Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='Larxene' timestamp='1288665003' post='4756224'] I personally don't care what happens either way. I'm 18, I can buy whatever games I want now. [/quote] Your right we can buy any video game because we 18 year olds are old enough to bye rated M games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1288664650' post='4756212'] And why does the Government think kids are stupid? [/quote] They are. And for the record, the only rated M games I bought were ones my Uncle or other family members owned; showing some form of discretion. Everything else was T and under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenofresh Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 The bottom line is this: Everyone loves to place the blame elsewhere. There are very few and if any, rare instances where Video Games can be the only source responsible for violence. The Fact of the matter is, 90% of violence is directly related to your environment. And everyone wants to have something else to blame besides those that deserve it. Parents want to pass the blame if their kids are violent. Teachers want to pass it if it happens in school. And all the bandwagons and backwards idiots need something to point their fingers at and Video Games is the easiest thing to point it at. Not only that but, if kid's are violent because of Video Games, then it's the parents fault for buying them the game. In most instance, parents buy their kid's M rated and violent games because they don't have the will to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='jenofresh' timestamp='1288666905' post='4756290'] The bottom line is this: Everyone loves to place the blame elsewhere. There are very few and if any, rare instances where Video Games can be the only source responsible for violence. The Fact of the matter is, 90% of violence is directly related to your environment. [/quote] First of all: Your numbers are pulled out of your ass. Second of all: Okay, let's go with it. 90% of violence is directly related to your environment. What about kids who play videogames for about half their waking time awake? Kids who play for 4 or 5 hours a day. Wouldn't cutting out that much violence be significant? On-topic though: Not selling M rated games to minors sounds 100 percent right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzoku Kira- Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Passing a law that effects video games to make them worse means the economy will die even more. Cause who doesn't play violent video games everyone plays one at some point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='Go Grizzles' timestamp='1288668381' post='4756333'] Passing a law that effects video games to make them worse means the economy will die even more. [/quote] Pro-Tip: That's not what the law is doing. It's merely fining game store owners for selling M rated games to minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenofresh Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1288667832' post='4756319'] First of all: Your numbers are pulled out of your ass. Second of all: Okay, let's go with it. 90% of violence is directly related to your environment. What about kids who play videogames for about half their waking time awake? Kids who play for 4 or 5 hours a day. Wouldn't cutting out that much violence be significant? On-topic though: Not selling M rated games to minors sounds 100 percent right to me. [/quote] I was using the number randomly, yes And on topic, for those kids that play those games, in the end isn't it usually the parents that buy the games for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='jenofresh' timestamp='1288671840' post='4756418'] And on topic, for those kids that play those games, in the end isn't it usually the parents that buy the games for them? [/quote] Sure. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenofresh Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1288672071' post='4756423'] Sure. What's your point? [/quote] Morely that everyone loves to pass the blame. Parents blame violent video games for kids being violent but, aren't they the ones buying these games for their kids in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzoku Kira- Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Well I am lucky that my city doesn't have that happen. The only reason a government wants to pass this law so that way they can get money from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 [quote name='jenofresh' timestamp='1288673003' post='4756439'] Morely that everyone loves to pass the blame. Parents blame violent video games for kids being violent but, aren't they the ones buying these games for their kids in the first place? [/quote] This law isn't about blaming anyone. It's about fining those that purposely sell to underage children against the ESRB's wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1288668649' post='4756343'] Pro-Tip: That's not what the law is doing. It's merely fining game store owners for selling M rated games to minors. [/quote] Pro-tip: that is [b]not[/b] what this is about. The supreme court is deciding whether or not video games are an art form and if they should be protected under the 1st amendment. If supreme court makes the wrong decision, the video game business as a whole could go down. I would explain more, but I'm really bad at explaining things, so here's a link instead: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/1961-Free-Speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 video games are storys, just like books are moving pictures just like movies are fun to experiance, just like any other art I'm pretty sure this can qualify it as an artbut the supreme court is probably to dumb to realize that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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