Psi-Blocker + unnofficial rulings

[.Nu-13]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Psi-Blocker

[quote]
"Cannot be used" means that the declared card cannot be placed onto the field from your hand. Every player in the Duel cannot "use" the declared card. You can use the declared card to pay a Cost: Tributed, Sent to the Graveyard or Discard it.
If a Monster Card is declared, it cannot be Normal Summon or Special Summon from the hand. The declared Monster card can be Special Summon from the Deck, Graveyard or Removed Zone but it cannot activate its effect, change his battle position manually or attack, and cannot be used as a Synchro Material.

If a Spell or Trap card is declared, it cannot be Set or activate its effect.

If the declared card is allready on the field, is unaffected by Psi-Blocker.

Psi-Blocker does not target the declared card.
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So yeah, discuss

[burnpsy]

Those "unofficial rulings" are exactly how Prohibition works. Since it's worded the same as Prohibition, it must work the same way as Prohibition unless BKSS takes place.

There was no BKSS in those unofficial rulings you listed.

So nothing has changed, and thus there's nothing to discuss.

[darkwolf777]

[quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1288704599' post='4756762']
If the declared card is allready on the field, is unaffected by Psi-Blocker.
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I can't see any reason for this to be correct. Prohibition has the "cards on the field after this card is activated are not affected" clause. Psi-blocker doesn't.

Also, I have some reasoning that Psi-Blocker may be akin to Vicious Claw where the declared card cannot be discarded either, but there's only a thin line of reasoning I have between why cards declared by Prohibition can be discarded while Vicious Claw cannot that I cannot really confirm if it would be true for Psi-Blocker.

Additional notes: You cannot Synchro Summon or Fusion Summon a declared Synchro/Fusion Monster that uses "Synchro/Fusion Material Monsters" as part of its Summon.

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[quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1288708993' post='4756857']
I can't see any reason for this to be correct. Prohibition has the "cards on the field after this card is activated are not affected" clause. Psi-blocker doesn't.

Also, I have some reasoning that Psi-Blocker may be akin to Vicious Claw where the declared card cannot be discarded either, but there's only a thin line of reasoning I have between why cards declared by Prohibition can be discarded while Vicious Claw cannot that I cannot really confirm if it would be true for Psi-Blocker.

Additional notes: You cannot Synchro Summon or Fusion Summon a declared Synchro/Fusion Monster that uses "Synchro/Fusion Material Monsters" as part of its Summon.
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If that's true, Psi-Blocker is pretty bad

[Mehmani]

Blocker shouldn't have the same rulings as Prohibition because it is worded differently. It should not let the declared card be summoned at all.

[darkwolf777]

[quote name='InconsistentDecks' timestamp='1288723954' post='4757252']
If that's true, Psi-Blocker is pretty bad
[/quote]

How is what I said make it bad when all i've mentioned would only grant Psi-Blocker more uses? x.o;

[evilfusion]

That doesn't make any sense, though. Psi-Blocker states their effects can't be used, either. That should mean cards on the field ARE affected, like Mystic Tomato, or DAD's effect, as well as cards in the graveyard, like Necro Gardna. In regards to Summons, you should be unable to Summon that card by any means, whether it be Fusion, Synchro, from hand, from deck, from graveyard. It also should prevent placement of that card on the field, including Sets and Activations (both monsters and S/Ts), because that follows Vicious Claw's reasoning.

I can excuse searching the card from the deck or graveyard, since that's not "using" the card, it's using a different card's effect to merely acquire the card. But Vicious Claw prevents discards for costs, but whether that affects the chosen card in the same way...

[darkwolf777]

Are you both misreading what I'm saying? I never agreed to what was posted in the wiki in regards to "monsters on the field are unaffected". Just not sure why i'm being quoted as if i said something that was worse sounding than it should be >_>;

"Cannot be used" will be one of those phrases that'll never be officially explained in a manual when it should be.

[evilfusion]

My apologies, I was not responding to what you said, but what the first post said about monsters on the field being "unaffected".

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[quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1288726031' post='4757341']
How is what I said make it bad when all i've mentioned would only grant Psi-Blocker more uses? x.o;
[/quote]

Sorry, I was meant to quote:
[i]If the declared card is allready on the field, is unaffected by Psi-Blocker.[/i]

[Azuh]

Guise, for all we know they could be fake. It is the Wiki after all

[darkwolf777]

[quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1288755726' post='4758545']
Guise, for all we know they could be fake. It is the Wiki after all
[/quote]

Of course its fake (lol me). What makes you think I believe some random guy named "Erickfallen" who posts on the wiki. I trust my word over anyone who randomly posts on the wiki (hence why I post my complaints about what that person put there in my previous posts) and my word doesn't even matter in regards to how it'll be ruled by US Konami. Being a TCG-Exclusive at the moment, I can only expect the worst from it.

We can only put together what we know based off of Prohibition and the resolved effect of Vicious Claw to bring up any good idea of how this would work. Frankly, my only qualm is how it would interact with the declared card and discarding as a cost. I'm leaning toward that the declared card can't be used as a cost for discarding, and there's only a slim reasoning behind that, which doesn't feel conclusive at all, so i could see it go both ways. Everything else I think i have a fair guess as to its mechanics.

tl;dr: I'm full of myself