Custom Cards Revamp Idea (strictly idea)

[Icy]

I was talking to Roxas and played around with certain issues and well... Certain ones would be easier handled if we started anew yea?

[list]
[*]Custom Cards Discussion (all threads here are to be Mod Approved and all Clubs involving Custom Cards will go here as well)
[*]General Cards* (changed from Realistic Cards)
-- Banked Threads (basically a trash section but more pleasantly named where we can archive certain threads)
-- Finished Sets (still existing due to acting as a buffer zone for massive sets)
[*]Toybox Creations/Cards (changed from Any Other Cards- with a clear distinction between the new Realistic Cards- Credit Jazin to the name)
-- Joke Cards/Custom Cards Games (buffer zone with no post count for more fun oriented things)
[*]Pop Culture Cards
[*]Written Cards
[*]Card Contests
-- 1 on 1 Contests
-- Finished Contests
[/list]

*:I don't like the name, but right now it feels the most correct.

That should fix most of the problems we have with a clean slate, nicer atmosphere. A greater distinction between sections (so people can diversify). Chances are rules won't have to be so tight due to this as well. People will also be able to host their own events with greater pleasures (the discussion section acts as a kind of OoC like in RP- a major but SERIOUS buffer zone). Etc. And again this is [color="#FF0000"][b][u]JUST AN IDEA[/u][/b][/color]. If it fleshes out enough, I'll suggest it formally.

Opinions/Name Ideas?

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1288764703' post='4758666']
[*]Unnamed Card Section (changed from Any Other Cards- with a clear distinction between the new Realistic Cards)
-- Joke Cards/Custom Cards Games (buffer zone with no post count for more fun oriented things)[/quote]
"Toybox".

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1288764703' post='4758666']
I was talking to Roxas and played around with certain issues and well... Certain ones would be easier handled if we started anew yea?

[list]
[*]Custom Cards Discussion (all threads here are to be Mod Approved and all Clubs involving Custom Cards will go here as well)
[*]Unnamed Card Section (changed from Realistic Cards)
-- Banked Threads (basically a trash section but more pleasantly named where we can archive certain threads)
[/list]
[/quote]
These are the only ones I don't fully understand. Specifically the 1st and 3rd one.

So Unnamed Card Section is just going to be a new name for Realistic Cards?

Custom Cards Discussion, not fully sure once again, it's for.

Banked Threads is just the trash bin where locked threads end up, and were you can archive certain threads, correct? And may I ask, what are these 'certain threads' that would be archived in the Banked Threads part of the Forum, if there would be a Banked Threads part that is.

[.Nu-13]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1288764703' post='4758666']
I was talking to Roxas and played around with certain issues and well... Certain ones would be easier handled if we started anew yea?

[list]
[*]Custom Cards Discussion (all threads here are to be Mod Approved and all Clubs involving Custom Cards will go here as well)
[*]Unnamed Card Section (changed from Realistic Cards)
-- Banked Threads (basically a trash section but more pleasantly named where we can archive certain threads)
-- Finished Sets (still existing due to acting as a buffer zone for massive sets)
[*]Unnamed Card Section (changed from Any Other Cards- with a clear distinction between the new Realistic Cards)
-- Joke Cards/Custom Cards Games (buffer zone with no post count for more fun oriented things)
[*]Pop Culture Cards
[*]Written Cards
[*]Card Contests
-- 1 on 1 Contests
-- Finished Contests
[/list]

That should fix most of the problems we have with a clean slate, nicer atmosphere. A greater distinction between sections (so people can diversify). Chances are rules won't have to be so tight due to this as well. People will also be able to host their own events with greater pleasures (the discussion section acts as a kind of OoC like in RP- a major but SERIOUS buffer zone). Etc. And again this is [color="#FF0000"][b][u]JUST AN IDEA[/u][/b][/color]. If it fleshes out enough, I'll suggest it formally.

Opinions/Name Ideas?
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All ideas seem good IMO

[Icy]

[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1288789904' post='4758888']
These are the only ones I don't fully understand. Specifically the 1st and 3rd one.

So Unnamed Card Section is just going to be a new name for Realistic Cards?
[color=blue]Yeah but a greater/more clear name that doesn't separate it as largely as the current name does while giving the new AoC some use. Ie: Equalizes RC so people don't end up camping in it while still maintaining that certain atmosphere. The End result will probably end up making this new RC more TCG focused than anything.[/color]

Custom Cards Discussion, not fully sure once again, it's for.
[color=blue]Pretty much any kind of major discussion. Including threads like this, event threads, clubs, Q&A's relating to CC, planning threads etc.[/color]

Banked Threads is just the trash bin where locked threads end up, and were you can archive certain threads, correct? And may I ask, what are these 'certain threads' that would be archived in the Banked Threads part of the Forum, if there would be a Banked Threads part that is.
[color=blue]Go PM Roxas, that was his idea.[/color]
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@Laev: At least name ideas...

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1288764703' post='4758666']
I was talking to Roxas and played around with certain issues and well... Certain ones would be easier handled if we started anew yea?

[list]
[*]Custom Cards Discussion (all threads here are to be Mod Approved and all Clubs involving Custom Cards will go here as well)
[*]Unnamed Card Section (changed from Realistic Cards)
-- Banked Threads (basically a trash section but more pleasantly named where we can archive certain threads)
-- Finished Sets (still existing due to acting as a buffer zone for massive sets)
[*]Unnamed Card Section (changed from Any Other Cards- with a clear distinction between the new Realistic Cards)
-- Joke Cards/Custom Cards Games (buffer zone with no post count for more fun oriented things)
[*]Pop Culture Cards
[*]Written Cards
[*]Card Contests
-- 1 on 1 Contests
-- Finished Contests
[/list]

That should fix most of the problems we have with a clean slate, nicer atmosphere. A greater distinction between sections (so people can diversify). Chances are rules won't have to be so tight due to this as well. People will also be able to host their own events with greater pleasures (the discussion section acts as a kind of OoC like in RP- a major but SERIOUS buffer zone). Etc. And again this is [color="#FF0000"][b][u]JUST AN IDEA[/u][/b][/color]. If it fleshes out enough, I'll suggest it formally.

Opinions/Name Ideas?
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Think these are fine suggestions. If I may:

[list]
-Custom Card Discussion
-TCG Cards (-TCG Archive, -TCG Sets)
-Pop Cards (-Pop Archive, -Pop Sets)
-[Unknown Name] Cards (-Joke Cards and Games)
-Written Cards
-Card Contests (-Contests Archive, -1on1 Contests)
[/list]

Hopefully a reformat will see AoC and Finished Sets (think there should be a sub section for finished Pop Sets, I'm a symmetrical person) pick up.

Will try to add more ideas. Hope I can help.

[Icy]

[quote name='Matt Bahamut' timestamp='1288796251' post='4758984']
Think these are fine suggestions. If I may:

[list]
-TCG Cards (-TCG Archive, -TCG Sets)
[/list]

Hopefully a reformat will see AoC and Finished Sets (think there should be a sub section for finished Pop Sets, I'm a symmetrical person) pick up.

Will try to add more ideas. Hope I can help.
[/quote]

TCG Cards? We have a section for that , it must be a created card system. Calling a Custom Card more than TCG-ish/Focused and flat out naming it so is not only silly it's also arrogant. And no, Pop Culture Finished Sets go in the same section as the rest if you so wish it.

And Pop Culture doesn't need to be renamed o_O couldn't be more clear for people if we spelled it out with thousands of pictures.

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

Fair point. Just trying to keep it short and snappy rather than 'Custom Real Gameplay Cards' for example, no arrogance meant.

The Pop Cards was just me writing short hand as opposed to not understanding though.

Will have another - extended - think seeing as initial reactions were not well recieved.

[CinnamonStar]

Custom Cards Discussion is a good idea, not sure if it HAS to be mod approved all the time. It's good so people don't put any crap in there but on the other side, people who just want to talk about a new set and need ideas for something don't need mod approval, IMO. But for the beginning I'd keep it there.

An AoC(?) sub-board with games and such would be really good though, after you figured out a new name it would push people to take it seriously, so that they see that joke cards go to the sub-board...but the other decent cards go to whatever AoC is going to be like.

I don't really like the banked threads thing, if we need one we could apply it on the whole site and if some sections don't need it...then they don't use it. But CC, RP, Showcase could use one, I guess.
I understand that people like to think about new sub-boards to sort things out but I really think we should apply it only where it's needed. Look at Literature and most of Multimedia...everyone was starting strikes and putting big uproars because they wanted it...and now it's dead.T_T

Forum descriptions need the most change IMO, "cards that are realistic and balanced" sounds so scary to newbies.xD I think something like cards that would work with the Yugioh card game, or are oriented after the card game, in better English of course xD.

I support a new layout but really can't think about new names to use... Other Cards with a clear description?

[Mehmani]

So RC will become mainly TCG-orientated?

Josh, did I ever tell you I wanted to make babies? [color="#FFFFFF"]THEY WILL BE CLEVER AND BEAUTIFUL[/color]

[Icy]

[quote name='Älfred-Kün' timestamp='1289406661' post='4775731']
So RC will become mainly TCG-orientated?

Josh, did I ever tell you I wanted to make babies? [color="#FFFFFF"]THEY WILL BE CLEVER AND BEAUTIFUL[/color]
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Assuming I can get more input on this and a GOOD name suggestion for Realistic Card's name change, yes.

[Mehmani]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1289409212' post='4775795']
Assuming I can get more input on this and a GOOD name suggestion for Realistic Card's name change, yes.
[/quote]

THANK YOU. It's about time people were forced to keep viability in mind when making cards, and this is a very good way of doing it.

[Icy]

Think a little more though Alfred, that's an environmental result. Not one caused by me or anyone by directly. And I'll still be harsh on people who are blunt for silly reasons like "Well I'm honest", yeah... If you're honest, you can still say it in a nicer way.

[Kuri]

[b][color="#FF0000"]IDEA[/color][/b]:[b] Custom Concept Center[/b] (aka development of new techniques of Summoning, etc.). Just thought of it since those sets wouldn't fit too much in RC nor AoC. Why not AoC? Wasn't that made to put OP'd, faketypes, etc. alive? Why not RC? RC was made for cards that stayed to the main concept of the game, aka the OCG, so shouldn't new developed OCG have its own place? Besides the underdeveloped AoC....o-o

I like the new names. "Great set-up" this will organize CC. No more cluttering will happen hopefully if this is implemented.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

So, I'm somewhat at a loss right now. Can someone explain what would happen to the Realistic Cards Forum if such a change would occur?

[Icy]

[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1289611663' post='4780178']
So, I'm somewhat at a loss right now. Can someone explain what would happen to the Realistic Cards Forum if such a change would occur?
[/quote]

It'd take a more serious note, and some cards currently available here would be subject to move to "Toybox Cards"; on top of what's already there. In-depth replies would be almost mandatory, or at the least active threads that show people why a card is unbalanced. New Mechanics would need to be preapproved (as in moving to Toybox if they are not fleshed out enough), causing some bouncing around.

But it'd buffer people a lot better, cause some common equality with an elitist flash (not more than a flash though). Showing people what's commonly accepted (and yes I'd change that with the times due to how many filters stuff has to pass through). Etc.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1289612334' post='4780217']
It'd take a more serious note, and some cards currently available here would be subject to move to "Toybox Cards"; on top of what's already there. In-depth replies would be almost mandatory, or at the least active threads that show people why a card is unbalanced. New Mechanics would need to be preapproved (as in moving to Toybox if they are not fleshed out enough), causing some bouncing around.
[/quote]
So Realistic Cards would be 'forced' to be actually realistic, and the people in the forum would be 'forced' to give in-depth reviews? Sounds like my kinda place. However, the new mechanics thing I'm somewhat confused about. For example, would old mechanics that Konami never continued count as a 'new' mechanic? For example, the Senet cards and cards such as Parasite Paracide.

So would this make / turn / transform Any Other Cards somewhat of a Realistic Cards Forum as well? Seeing the only difference from this 'new' Realistic Cards Forum and this itself would be mechanics, and just not as realistic as this 'new' Realistic Cards Forum that would happen, correct?

[Icy]

Ok, stop calling it Realistic from now on. Give it a new name, without that this CAN NOT happen. And forced would be an environmental result, however I am accounting for that. You already answered your OWN question >_> how is a mechanic new if Konami did it? The "new" is factored into whether or not it is OCG/TCG official.

And no, that'd be incorrect as well. The new section to replace RC would not be "Realistic", stop giving it that hype. It'd just be a more serious place. Toybox would be more relaxed with the major buffer zone being inside CC Games.

I know it's sounding a little complicated, but how it works is to equalize activity. With the name distinctions playing less of a hype role and more of a "Well, I'm not being this way today so let's post it here". That kind of thing, mutual agreement on everything. Preventing anyone from camping in a particular section.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1289613636' post='4780295']
Ok, stop calling it Realistic from now on. Give it a new name, without that this CAN NOT happen. And forced would be an environmental result, however I am accounting for that. You already answered your OWN question >_> how is a mechanic new if Konami did it? The "new" is factored into whether or not it is OCG/TCG official.

And no, that'd be incorrect as well. The new section to replace RC would not be "Realistic", stop giving it that hype. It'd just be a more serious place. Toybox would be more relaxed with the major buffer zone being inside CC Games.

I know it's sounding a little complicated, but how it works is to equalize activity. With the name distinctions playing less of a hype role and more of a "Well, I'm not being this way today so let's post it here". That kind of thing, mutual agreement on everything. Preventing anyone from camping in a particular section.
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Okay, so I'll try my best to stop calling these Forums Realistic.

So Toybox and this 'Other' Forum I'll call it for now, would be pretty much the same, except one is all relaxed and whatnot, while the other would be a more serious place for card making, correct? If so, I think I finally understand this new Revamp idea for Custom Cards.

[Icy]

And your opinion/any clarifications/name suggestions?

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1289613999' post='4780324']
And your opinion/any clarifications/name suggestions?
[/quote]
Opinion, it seems like a pretty good idea. This can separate the more serious members when it comes to card making to those members who just do it for fun and whatnot. For names, I think toolbox is a great name for this more 'fun' relaxed part of Custom Cards, for the more stricter Forum, perhaps....can't think of anything as of right now for a name, sorry.

[Icy]

1) It is not meant to separate them. It is meant to equalize them even more.
2) Stricter is only on a mechanical level, irrelevant to mention.

[Master White]

I was wondering, what do you mean by Trash Section?

Will it be so some people that post their cards into it as a sset and end up being trash so trash is their but still access it to get from it what you need? If so, I'm for it.

Or will it be a place where you can have any thread placed their and so if their is any reason why, you can place it their.

If those are not it, then I'm confused.

But I did want to know

How about a section where no can post in the thread but you put up it as an archive for whatever, as an forebear so you can work with it later type deal or etc, so then when your ready, you can place it as an finished set. Like a hold. In other words, a section to hold threads that contain cards in them that you are not ready to be judged with by other cnc'ers, to have them there so you don't have to upload all 80 of them at once or etc.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='General White' timestamp='1289619375' post='4780587']
How about a section where no can post in the thread but you put up it as an archive for whatever, as an forebear so you can work with it later type deal or etc, so then when your ready, you can place it as an finished set. Like a hold. In other words, a section to hold threads that contain cards in them that you are not ready to be judged with by other cnc'ers, to have them there so you don't have to upload all 80 of them at once or etc.
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I'm pretty sure Icy made a thread for Archiving completed Sets that were locked when completed to prevent Necro Bumping and whatnot if that's what you mean. Otherwise, there was Topic Drafts, which I guess did the same thing your saying you want a section for. Just save the Topic, and continue to work on it / saving it until your done making all the cards for it, then posting the thing as a whole. Sadly though, it went like -poof- when the Format changed.

[Icy]

General Cards = Changed Realistic Cards?