Got some bad news.

[snowyash]

Around 30 protesters calling themselves Muslims Against Crusades chanted ‘British soldiers burn in hell’ as the nation marked the anniversary of Armistice Day.

As the clock struck 11am, the group, many with their faces covered with scarves, lit a model of a large poppy and shouted: ‘British troops are murderers.’

They also held banners which read ‘Islam will dominate’ and ‘Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell’, as they marched from near Hyde Park.

The group clashed briefly with police in Kensington, west London.

One officer was taken to hospital with a head injury and two men were arrested for public order offences and one for assaulting a police officer.

The situation threatened to boil over further when around 50 members of the right-wing English Defence League staged a counter protest and police battled to keep the two groups apart.

Politicians, relatives of soldiers killed in Afghanistan and Islamic groups condemned the protest. Christine Bonner, whose son Darren was killed by a landmine in Helmand province in 2007, expressed ‘disgust’.

‘There are people like myself that, at 11am today, were remembering the lives of our children, and then there are some people doing something so hurtful as that. It is atrocious,’ she said.

Labour MP Khalid Mahmood described the actions as ‘ridiculous and despicable’ and Conservative MP Patrick Mercer said the group had ‘scorned’ the sacrifices made by thousands of Muslim British soldiers.

The Muslim Council of Britain said: ‘While this handful of people claim to speak for Muslims, many more will join fellow Britons in remembering the sacrifice of our armed forces.’

This is the worst news I've had all day. While I refuse to blame the whole Muslim religion, I am very disappointed by this sort of behaviour.

[.Starrk]

This stuff is going to happen eventually. Tensions are high throughout the world. You can't expect this not to happen.

[snowyash]

[quote name='Coyote Starrk' timestamp='1289522395' post='4777938']
This stuff is going to happen eventually. Tensions are high throughout the world. You can't expect this not to happen.
[/quote]

Today of all days though.

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

i agree, this only going to help far right-wing arguements and make the whole problem even worse

[Tentacruel]

[quote name='Kisuke Urahara' timestamp='1289523007' post='4777978']
i agree, this only going to help far right-wing arguements and make the whole problem even worse
[/quote]
No offense, but now you're just using this to take a stab at Republicans. Who freaking cares what religion they were a part of, kill them. KILL THEM NAO!

['tyleR]

[quote name='Kisuke Urahara' timestamp='1289523007' post='4777978']
i agree, this only going to help far right-wing arguements and make the whole problem even worse
[/quote]

You dumbass, you missed the whole point of the topic.

Terrible. :// Radicals are to blame, and not just Muslim radicals, but any radicals who fuel hatred and evil amongst others. It's ridiculous, really.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

simple, blame america

[Cin]

All it does is make people hate Islam more. What's happened has happened in terms with war, plus its not the soldiers' fault they didn't choose to go to war, its the governments who sent them to war they should blame.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

[quote name='Yin' timestamp='1289551435' post='4778642']
All it does is make people hate Islam more. What's happened has happened in terms with war, plus its not the soldiers' fault they didn't choose to go to war, its the governments who sent them to war they should blame.
[/quote]
like I said, blame America. They start so many battles/wars it ridiculous.

[Uchiha Sasuke XII]

[quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1289551704' post='4778645']
like I said, blame America. They start so many battles/wars it ridiculous.
[/quote]
To be more specific, blame Bush. Look at my sig and you'll understand.

[Doomboi]

I hate those protestors, and I'm a Muslim as well!

[Aesirson]

Seriously, I won't blame the muslims or Islam because I know some muslims and they are good guys, but when these kind of muslims can't see that the troops in their country is there to prevent the entire middle-east from being blown from the face of earth, they have to take a chill-pill. Seriously.

Maybe we should just tell all of our troops to just f*** it and go home. Then we will have '<insert country here> Troops are murderers because they won't help us!' QQ instead.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

No worse than say, Westboro church.

[Darth Duelist]

You can't blame islam for an action by a certain group. So if anyone says it's islam's fault, they are wrong.
11th November is Remembrance Day for Commonwealth countries. British soldiers ARE murderers, but they killed German Nazi Soldiers that served Hitler. They tried to get freedom. We take everything for granted, but if it wasn't for their efforts, we would be forced to choose Christianity as our religon and the Jewish would all be killed. We should be able to choose our religon, which was what the British [and American] soldiers fought for. We should appreciate their efforts. But let me repeat: I mean "Muslims Against Crusaders" did something that wasn't right, in my opinion, but I do NOT blame Islam. It is only the group's fault, not the religon they believe in.

[-:=Brandon=:-]

You can't blame a whole religion/country for what a group of people do, i looked on youtube at a geremy kyle gets a envelope thrown at him. In the comments people said all british are stupid wan(censored). I was flaming mad(not so literally i flamed, im not that type of guy). How those few people commenting on youtube at a vid thinking one guy is an ambassidor for an entire country. You have to admit though, wherever it is, some islams(please dont find this offensive, im basing this on what i've heard on the news) are rioting, eg. running round a certain city shouting "burn the british soldiers!" and burning poppies, and also another city going round in trucks with megaphones shouting out things and throwing bricks through windows. I say, f*** the mercy, they do something discraceful as that, throw them in a dungeon and let them starve. They'd do it to us.

[snowyash]

[quote name='-:=Brandon=:-' timestamp='1289587523' post='4779155']
You can't blame a whole religion/country for what a group of people do, i looked on youtube at a geremy kyle gets a envelope thrown at him. In the comments people said all british are stupid wan(censored). I was flaming mad(not so literally i flamed, im not that type of guy). How those few people commenting on youtube at a vid thinking one guy is an ambassidor for an entire country. You have to admit though, wherever it is, some islams(please dont find this offensive, im basing this on what i've heard on the news) are rioting, eg. running round a certain city shouting "burn the british soldiers!" and burning poppies, and also another city going round in trucks with megaphones shouting out things and throwing bricks through windows. I say, f*** the mercy, they do something discraceful as that, throw them in a dungeon and let them starve. They'd do it to us.
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The problem is, the line between the radicals and and the objective Muslims is becoming increasingly blurred. The very fact that they were confident enough to protest suggests that terrorist attacks may be more likely by the day. It is getting harder to distinguish which Muslims are supportive of these actions and those who'd prefer peace. I refuse to judge the religion by the actions of this group, but I'm becoming more wary of the intentions of the majority of Muslims.

[Alexis Rhodes]

If I was part of the police that seen them I would have f***ing killed them all.

Go back to your own country and f*** off.

[Sander]

[quote name='Yu-Gi-Oh 5D`S' timestamp='1289588182' post='4779176']
If I was part of the police that seen them I would have f***ing killed them all.

Go back to your own country and f*** off.
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No, let's be serious here, you wouldn't have killed them, you would have just arrested a few people and that's it.

[.Starrk]

[quote name='Beata Persequenda' timestamp='1289541256' post='4778558']
You dumbass, you missed the whole point of the topic.

Terrible. :// Radicals are to blame, and not just Muslim radicals, but any radicals who fuel hatred and evil amongst others. It's ridiculous, really.
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I concur. This will happen a lot though.

[Dark]

[s]If Islam never existed, none of this could have happened.

[/s]The most logical way to approach this issue is to say that [i]all[/i] religious extremists are stupid, retarded, and are capable of pulling off something as idiotic as this. However, it seems that in recent times Islam is the best at creating extremists, and those extremists are the best at making themselves known. There are still Catholic and Jewish extremists out there today, but have you ever heard about them? Nope.

Don't bother blaming the religion, that won't help a thing.

[Doomboi]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1289618495' post='4780547']
[s]If Islam never existed, none of this could have happened.

[/s]The most logical way to approach this issue is to say that [i]all[/i] religious extremists are stupid, retarded, and are capable of pulling off something as idiotic as this. However, it seems that in recent times Islam is the best at creating extremists, and those extremists are the best at making themselves known. There are still Catholic and Jewish extremists out there today, but have you ever heard about them? Nope.

Don't bother blaming the religion, that won't help a thing.
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We don't hear about them because of the media! [/paranoia]

[Amethyst Phoenix]

[quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1289551704' post='4778645']
like I said, blame America. They start so many battles/wars it ridiculous.
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America didn't even get involved in the war Veteran's Day/Armistice Day was about until like the last year of it.

America started:

American Revolution - Good.

Mexican-American War - Mexico's government was a mess at the time. They had gone through 6 dictators in 20 years, and Texas etc were better under US control. Once again - Good.

Vietnam - I don't know enough about this one, but general consensus seems to be that it was stupid.

Middle Eastern Conflict - In response to terrorist bombings etc.




So let's see......4 conflicts actually started by the US

2 of them US was correct to start.

1 was a bad decision.

And the 4th the US didn't even strike first.




No, the US doesn't start a lot of conflicts. They just win a lot of them.

QQ hating on America because it's trendy QQ >_>

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

[quote name='Revolver Amethyst' timestamp='1289636658' post='4780986']
America didn't even get involved in the war Veteran's Day/Armistice Day was about until like the last year of it.

America started:

American Revolution - Good.

Mexican-American War - Mexico's government was a mess at the time. They had gone through 6 dictators in 20 years, and Texas etc were better under US control. Once again - Good.

Vietnam - I don't know enough about this one, but general consensus seems to be that it was stupid.

Middle Eastern Conflict - In response to terrorist bombings etc.




So let's see......4 conflicts actually started by the US

2 of them US was correct to start.

1 was a bad decision.

And the 4th the US didn't even strike first.




No, the US doesn't start a lot of conflicts. They just win a lot of them.

QQ hating on America because it's trendy QQ >_>
[/quote]
1. helping of cuban rebellion
effect: failure and loss of many cuban lives
2. Gulf war cause: oil
3. Cold war= obvious
4. korean war= started by americans and leads to separation of one country
5. attacking of parts of Asia
6. overhtrowing of Hawaiian Queen
7. Helping israel by giving them back land they lost by war purely because Israel is stereotyped as a Christian holy land when Jeudiasm and Islam religious records predate Christianity
effect: Israel fighting a meaningless battle
8. war in Iraq = debatable but most likely started by US.
WW2- forcing germany, a country with a ruined economy to pay for WW1. Hitler gets angry and starts invading countries.
9. Osamam Bin Laden and GW Senior were friends. 9/11 happens and Osama gets a free ride home

[Amethyst Phoenix]

[quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1289640994' post='4781025']
1. helping of cuban rebellioneffect: failure and loss of many cuban lives
[i]You said caused. They didn't cause this. [/i]

2. Gulf war cause: oil
[/i]Iraq was attacking Kuwait. [/i]

3. Cold war= obvious
[i] lolno [/i]

4. korean war= started by americans and leads to separation of one country
[i]Most ignorant response I've read. Korea was colonized by Japan pre-world war 2. US freed the south side, Russia freed the north. The split was meant to be temporary, but Russia opposed popular elections because the south would win. Then in 1950, North Korean forces invaded South Korea. The troops sent to help South Korea were UNITED NATIONS TROOPS comprised of English and American soldiers volunteered. You have no idea what you're talking about. The most ridiculously liberal people I know AGREE with me on this one. [/i]

5. attacking of parts of Asia
[i]Could you be more vague?[/i]

6. overhtrowing of Hawaiian Queen
[i]The previous president was friends with her. The guy after him was a dick and did that. Do the math. [/i]

7. Helping israel by giving them back land they lost by war purely because Israel is stereotyped as a Christian holy land when Jeudiasm and Islam religious records predate Christianity.
effe1ct: Israel fighting a meaningless battle8.

[i] I'm not even going to explain this one to you. Suffice it to say everything about this statement is wrong. Israel is a Jewish nation btw. [/i]

war in Iraq = debatable but most likely started by US.
[i]*Shrug* I guess. [/i]


WW2- forcing germany, a country with a ruined economy to pay for WW1. Hitler gets angry and starts invading countries.
[i] Not completely wrong. However, America was the one who was opposed to throwing the debt on Germany. You can thank England and France for that catastrophe.
[/i]


9. Osamam Bin Laden and GW Senior were friends. 9/11 happens and Osama gets a free ride home

[i] I don't know enough about Bush Senior, but if you're saying 9/11 was caused by the US, then you're an idiot [/i]
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Most ignorant tripe I've read in a very long time.

Please pay attention in history class.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

[quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1289582444' post='4779036']
[size="7"]No worse than say, Westboro church.[/size]
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Enough of this "muslim extremist" s***.