-Lightray Daedalus- Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 So DT-gen 2 Archetypes starts to get support in a set...I hope this doesn't mean they stoop making stuff for good old gen 1 (Except Sabers and Flamvells they already got enough)...at least mist valley got one cards after man time. OK so [center][b]Vairon Matter ヴァイロン・マター (STOR-JP060) Spell Cards Select 3 Equip Spell Cards in your Graveyard. Return those cards to your Deck, and apply one of these effects: ● Draw 1 card. ● Destroy 1 card your opponent controls.[/b][/center] The activation cost is ridiculous... Stupid konami it never gives good support to bad archetypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 To be honest, the cost doesn't seem like a cost. It recycles Equip Spells, and can either pop a card or let you draw a card. The card is Meh / Decent, not entirely sure with that ridiculous 'cost' it has, if you can even call something like that a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1289525683' post='4778103'] The activation cost- [/quote] Ben Kei gets a new toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 You must run more than 3 Equips and they must be in the gravyard to activate this...Yep it count as a very high cost to me...XD @Armz:We could say the same for a Deck with Supervise and Evoltector but, if you had those equips aviable...woulnd't you already won before playing this? IDK...XD Is a lulz card anyway... =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1289527166' post='4778172'] @Armz:We could say the same for a Deck with Supervise and Evoltector but, if you had those equips aviable...woulnd't you already won before playing this? [/quote] For that rare occasion in which you don't have Ben-Kei(not sure how that situation would be), you might want to use a few Equips for some beatstick shenanigans So they eventually get destroyed, you can use this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1289527339' post='4778182'] For that rare occasion in which you don't have Ben-Kei(not sure how that situation would be), you might want to use a few Equips for some beatstick shenanigans So they eventually get destroyed, you can use this. [/quote] I'd really like to see this played good somehow... And as a WC fan Imo...This will be added to my list of projects for WC11... What a Wonderfull game will be...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1289527604' post='4778188'] I'd really like to see this played good somehow... And as a WC fan Imo...This will be added to my list of projects for WC11... What a Wonderfull game will be...XD [/quote] The only decks Ima run in Wc11 will be DABU TUNINGU or Scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1289527776' post='4778195'] The only decks Ima run in Wc11 will be DABU TUNINGU or Scraps [/quote] I'll run Rituaftw Then will try a whole lot of obscure decks Then a whole lot of fanboy anime character decks Then I'll traslade the larger amount possible of deck to its Riding Duel version Then meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1289527921' post='4778199'] I'll run Rituaftw Then will try a whole lot of obscure decks Then a whole lot of fanboy anime character decks Then I'll traslade the larger amount possible of deck to its Riding Duel version Then meta [/quote] 'Eff the metagame. Casual decks are more fun. Especially a deck that has 15 of the 20 monsters being Tuners, and all of the monsters are mostly Flamvells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 +1 for the meta part. True I run a tier 1 deck [s]badly, unlike everyone and their grandma at tournaments that cheat like crazy[/s] but that is just for show, casual decks or casual [i]variants[/i] of meta decks are more fun. This is a [b]CHILDREN'S CARD GAME[/b], and unless your trying to [s]save the world[/s] win a tournament, you can and should play casual decks based on what you like, just make sure that it is as least mildly consistent (no Holy Pile of Random, Batman)! Vairons keep getting new toys despite the fact that they will not be meta [s]unless Konami decides to break them like they did with X-sabers[/s]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1289528162' post='4778205'] 'Eff the metagame. Casual decks are more fun. Especially a deck that has 15 of the 20 monsters being Tuners, and all of the monsters are mostly Flamvells. [/quote] By the time I'll have time to test Sep10 meta it will be sep11 meta...XD I have MANY fun deck to test first... And Tuner.dek is pro EDIT:That Remind me rituaftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='TheTurtleOnceCalledGod' timestamp='1289528459' post='4778212'] +1 for the meta part. True I run a tier 1 deck [s]badly, unlike everyone and their grandma at tournaments that cheat like crazy[/s] but that is just for show, casual decks or casual [i]variants[/i] of meta decks are more fun. This is a [b]CHILDREN'S CARD GAME[/b], and unless your trying to [s]save the world[/s] win a tournament, you can and should play casual decks based on what you like, just make sure that it is as least mildly consistent (no Holy Pile of Random, Batman)! Vairons keep getting new toys despite the fact that they will not be meta [s]unless Konami decides to break them like they did with X-sabers[/s]. [/quote] Its possibly that my years of being on YCM has warped my opinion on the idea of a "fun" deck. Thing is, I find a deck to be "fun" if it can actually win with its obscure win condtion. FREAKIN ECCENTRIC SHAPESNATCH, for example, is something along those lines. Its like the only deck that can make use of said monster, only because of how easily you can abuse it, plus, it also gives access to Dark Simorgh. So the win condition is Eccentric Boy + Shapesnatch for game. [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1289529962' post='4778252'] By the time I'll have time to test Sep10 meta it will be sep11 meta...XD I have MANY fun deck to test first... And Tuner.dek is pro [/quote] Tuner.dek would run Magical Merchant and possibly Needlebug Nest for lulz, since the win condition would easily have over nine thousand ATK and be immune to effect destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Vairon Material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1289526585' post='4778137'] To be honest, the cost doesn't seem like a cost. It recycles Equip Spells, and can either pop a card or let you draw a card. The card is Meh / Decent, not entirely sure with that ridiculous 'cost' it has, if you can even call something like that a cost. [/quote] It's cost enough. Not only that but look at Gusta Empathy. -Returns 2 Gusta monsters from your Graveyard to your deck to destroy a monster your opponent controls. Gusta Calm. -Returns 2 Gusta from Graveyard to Deck to draw 1 card. A Prayer to Gusta -Returns 2 Gusta from Grave to deck to Special Summon [b]ANY[/b] gusta (including Synchros) from the graveyard. Anyways. Actually good support for crap archetype =/. Needs decent Equip Recycle since so far all it does is equip and dump them as far as I know. Then again I don't really concern myself with Vairon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Random thought: This in Morphtronics? They have like, 4 Equip Spells, that are all pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just-duelist Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 kuraz draw engine has a new toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='just-duelist' timestamp='1289532783' post='4778361'] kuraz draw engine has a new toy [/quote] The most interesting post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I made this card and Konami stole it. It's pretty cool. Gigavise, Ben Kei, Vairon and other stuff can use it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 POWER TOOL'D BEN KEI MATTER.dek yea~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Does anyone else notice that Konami's releasing Vairons in STOR? And/or how amazing that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 PTD support? [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1289532336' post='4778338'] Random thought: This in Morphtronics? They have like, 4 Equip Spells, that are all pretty decent. [/quote] All of their equips suck for varying reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name='Bringeroficecream' timestamp='1289630453' post='4780918'] Does anyone else notice that Konami's releasing Vairons in STOR? And/or how amazing that is. [/quote] I did...And IDK I Would Prepfer some of the Oldies DT archetypes finally get more than 1/2 cards support before supporting the new ones And Apparently we are getting 1 OCG Elemental Hero this set.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1289667530' post='4781560'] And Apparently we are getting 1 OCG Elemental Hero this set.... [/quote] [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101028114237/yugioh/images/thumb/4/43/ElementalHeroNovaMasterVE03-JP-UR.jpg/400px-ElementalHeroNovaMasterVE03-JP-UR.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1289668314' post='4781599'] [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101028114237/yugioh/images/thumb/4/43/ElementalHeroNovaMasterVE03-JP-UR.jpg/400px-ElementalHeroNovaMasterVE03-JP-UR.jpg[/img] [/quote] It will probably be the wind one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 I just realized that this card is actually pretty good since it can be searched by the Vairon equips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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