So I'm Getting Really Bored With This Game

[El Majishan]

Monsters: 20

3: Caius the Shadow Monarch
2: Quickdraw Synchron
2: Cyber Dragon

2: Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
2: Synchron Explorer (Easy Black Rose Dragon )
2: Junk Synchron
2: Cyber Valley
2: Debris Dragon
2: Dandylion
1: Sangan

Spells: 10

3: Book of Moon
2: Mystical Space Typhoon
1: Monster Reborn
1: Giant Trunade
1: Dark Hole
1: Cold Wave
1: Tuning

Traps: 10

2: Bottomless Traphole
2: Dimensional Prison
2: Solemn Warning
1: Solemn Judgment
1: Torrential Tribute
1: Mirror Force
1: Trap Stun

[byak]

Synchron Explorer doesn't make Black Rose.

[Mysty]

[quote name='ze super cat' timestamp='1290087944' post='4793179']
Synchron Explorer doesn't make Black Rose.
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Q4E. Synchron Explorer can't negate the condition on Quickdraw Synchron that says "This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster, except for the Synchro Summon of a monster that lists a "Synchron" monster as a Tuner monster." Therefore, it's an easy Junk Archer, Nitro Warrior, or Junk Warrior, but not an easy Black Rose Dragon.

Extra Deck? Playbook?

[El Majishan]

I just read that ruling and I find it stupid....if its not treated as an effect what the hell is it treated as? And its the same logic as Vayu...

Its pretty much quick draw without the plant engine.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='Mark of the Bloo-D Rose' timestamp='1290104175' post='4793483']
I just read that ruling and I find it stupid....if its not treated as an effect what the hell is it treated as? And its the same logic as Vayu...

Its pretty much quick draw without the plant engine.
[/quote]
Its because the "Cant be used as a synchro material except for [X]" part of the effect doesn't really happen on the field.
This is more along the lines of why Scraps cant really Synchro into anything that isnt Scrap-related, as Chimera (and Soldier) has the same effect as Quickdraw, therefor, requires you to use the Synchros its intended for, using said monster's summoning method.

[El Majishan]

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1290104295' post='4793485']
Its because the "Cant be used as a synchro material except for [X]" part of the effect doesn't really happen on the field.
This is more along the lines of why Scraps cant really Synchro into anything that isnt Scrap-related, as Chimera (and Soldier) has the same effect as Quickdraw, therefor, requires you to use the Synchros its intended for, using said monster's summoning method.
[/quote]

I still find it stupid...but bleh....thats how konami rolls

[Mysty]

[quote name='Mark of the Bloo-D Rose' timestamp='1290104175' post='4793483']
I just read that ruling and I find it stupid....if its not treated as an effect what the hell is it treated as? And its the same logic as Vayu...
[/quote]

No, it is not the same logic as Vayu. Vayu says "If this card is face-up on the field, you cannot use it for a Synchro Summon." This apparently makes it mean it's an effect and not a condition.

Quickdraw Synchron's text past "You can send 1 monster from your hand to the Graveyard and Special Summon this card from your hand." is all conditions. Those lines can't be negated at all. Get used to conditions like with Debris Dragon, Scrap Chimera, and other cards of similar text.
Hey, don't complain; since both its lines are conditions, you can always substitute it for any "Synchron" Tuner, even if its "effect" is negated.