Who is this Joe you speak of?

[Catterjune]

[quote name='HadesRuler' timestamp='1291408460' post='4826433']
Well, spanish is my home lenguage, ony that here instead of 'tú' (you) we say 'vos'.
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Ugh, I ****ing hate 'vosotros'. I took Spanish in High School for an easy A, and that honestly never comes up in conversation. (It's a plural "you", but in a respectful tone, but it uses different rules for conjugation.) I still got that A, but that vosotros stuff was a pain in the ass to learn.

[RedRuler]

Well, i said we don't use the [i]vosotros[/i] form. And i don't know how to use it well.

[Catterjune]

[quote name='HadesRuler' timestamp='1291520858' post='4830176']
Well, i said we don't use the [i]vosotros[/i] form. And i don't know how to use it well.
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Likewise. When I speak with my friends in Spanish, we don't go out of our way to speak respectfully (as we're all friends, not UN officials) and none of us want to bother with learning a new way to conugate words. (Since ellos, ellas, and ustedes are all the same and ustedes and vosotros mean the same thing). It doesn't come up in conversation.

[Dark]

Isn't [i]ustedes[/i] a more formal version of [i]vosotros[/i], much like [i]usted[/i] is a formal version of [i]tu[/i]?

They both mean "you all", but I always correlate usted with ustedes, and as such feel that vosotros is a lot more acceptable when talking to a group of friends or a teacher talking to a class of students.

Eh, but I'll do anything not to learn all the tenses again for vosotros.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

IIRC, it's not really a formality issue, its just different areas doing their own thing.

[RedRuler]

Yeah, but how we talk is something like this:

[i]Quién sos vos?[/i]
(Who are you?)

[.Starrk]

I love how the word 'nosotros' only means 'we'.

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I'm quadrilingual. (English, Spanish, Japanese, and Chinese.)

Here's the differences:

Yo : Me
Tu : You
El/Ella/Usted : He/She/(You, can be singular or plural, but if plural, usually to a couple of people.)
Nosotros : We (as a group)
Vosotros : We (as a people/community)
Ellos/Ellas/Ustedes : They (male)/They (female)/(You, plural, for many people or a large group of people)

[Dark]

[i]Vosotros : We (as a people/community)[/i]

This goes against everything I've ever learned about the [i]vosotros[/i] form. For six or seven years constant, my Spanish teachers drove into my head that the vosotros form is most often used in Spain, and is an informal version of [i]ustedes[/i]. Do you have any "proof" that vosotros is a way to say we when referring to a broader group of people?

[Tentacruel]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1291687690' post='4835165']
[i]Vosotros : We (as a people/community)[/i]

This goes against everything I've ever learned about the [i]vosotros[/i] form. For six or seven years constant, my Spanish teachers drove into my head that the vosotros form is most often used in Spain, and is an informal version of [i]ustedes[/i]. Do you have any "proof" that vosotros is a way to say we when referring to a broader group of people?
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The exact same thing my Spanish Professor told me. Methinks we have found some credibility.

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Well, that's what my spanish teacher told me. But then again, he's not even Spanish (racially). :/

K' then, my mistake. I'm pretty sure the others are right though...

[RedRuler]

[i]Vosotros[/i] means you (plural).