RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 I tested on YVD what would happen if it could Special Summon a Naturia monster if it was used for a Synchro Summon. I drew 6 cards and on my first turn I got out Magical Android/Catastor, Goyo and Brionac. I had 7 monsters in my grave and Debris, Mind Control and Spirit Reaper in my hand. Anyway discuss the card. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Naturia_Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Yvd doesnt work for me [quote]When this card is [b]sent[/b] from the field to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Naturia" monster from your Deck to your side of the field in face-up Attack Position.[/quote] Wow, this is good. But is it mained in naturias? I Dont really know the decktype. Oh, and i think you can get a level 4 or lower when you Synchro summon with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Cliff is pretty much a weird version of Sengan, for Naturias. Its what makes him awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ctrl + Alt + Win : lol Naturia Cliff is the best Naturia monster and no you dont get a lv4 or lower monster if you synchro with it or if your tribute it. Only if it is destroyed by battle or destroyed by a card effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Well It says sent, meaning when it goes to the graveyard. Wouldnt it act like dandylion (only the field) or sangan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Missing the timing sucks, donnit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Sure does. Sure does. It's still one of the better Naturias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 This is pretty much the one card I need for my Naturia deck...how many should I run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The ReBeL Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 how is it possible that it misses timing. is that a cost for synchro and stuff i mean sangan happens right it should work the same way. plus rulings state it can happen right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 *sigh* THE EFFECT IS OPTIONAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolTama Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='!' timestamp='1295142874' post='4937132'] *sigh* THE EFFECT IS OPTIONAL. [/quote] For those who don't know what this means, you can't use effects that say "can" unless the condition is the last thing that happens. In this case, you can't activate Cliff's effect after sync summoning b/c the last thing to happen was the summon, not Cliff being sent to the graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 The word "can" isn't enough to stop it. It's the combination of the word "when" at the start and "can" making it optional. If "when" is replaced by "if", then it would work even if it was still optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 TLDR: Konami needs to translate effects better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1295163498' post='4937720'] The word "can" isn't enough to stop it. It's the combination of the word "when" at the start and "can" making it optional. If "when" is replaced by "if", then it would work even if it was still optional. [/quote] "If" represents a condition for activation, and does not represent timing, which is why these effects activate the next possible opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Which, yeah, is what I said =O Although, note, if it was an 'if', and was tributed for, let's say, Caius, would it form a separate chain or chain to Caius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1295204066' post='4938753'] Which, yeah, is what I said =O Although, note, if it was an 'if', and was tributed for, let's say, Caius, would it form a separate chain or chain to Caius? [/quote] It would chain to Caius as the timing for activation would be the same for both cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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