01894645616843521321 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 My Stun deck I use in major events. Monsters- 18 3- Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo 3- Thunder King Rai-Oh 3- Doomcaliber Knight 3- Banisher of the Radiance 2- Breaker the Magical Warrior 2- King Tiger Wanghu 2- D.D. Warrior Lady Traps- 14 3- Dark Bribe 3- Dimensional Prison 2- Bottomless Trap Hole 2- Solemn Warning 1- Solemn Judgement 1- Torrential Tribute 1- Mirror Force 1- Royal Oppression Spells- 8 3- Book of Moon 2- Smashing Ground 1- Monster Reborn 1- Dark Hole 1- Mystical Space Typhoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 -1 Doomcalibur -1 Banisher +1 Oppression +1 MST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01894645616843521321 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 [quote name='Dementuo' timestamp='1295251166' post='4940295'] -1 Doomcalibur -1 Banisher +1 Oppression +1 MST [/quote] Are you aware Oppression is at 1? lol. And the fact that Doomcaliber is the single most important monster in anti-meta while Banisher beats down Quickdraw, Fish, Monarch, Debris Plant and Lightsworn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Max out Warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01894645616843521321 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 [quote name='Champion Lance' timestamp='1295251644' post='4940301'] Max out Warning. [/quote] I really wanted to do that. I would take out Judgment for a 3rd. But the way I look at it, Judgment is just a Warning with more options. So I just kept it as is, I really contemplated that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 -2 BTH for Warning and MST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01894645616843521321 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Wow.... Uh... For one, its Anti Meta, so my opponents back row isn't a big deal to me cause I have no win condition, my win condition is preventing my opponents win condition so MST isn't overly important and I would NEVER take out Bottomless for it. Secondly, Bottomless Trap Hole kills every monster with 1500 attack, without the cost of 2000 life points. Why in the world would I do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＢＥＬＩＳＫ Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Because BTH is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewk Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 [quote name='InconsistentDecks' timestamp='1295282319' post='4940761'] Because BTH is terrible. [/quote] You best be trollin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 [quote name='Lewk' timestamp='1295282550' post='4940769'] You best be trollin' [/quote] Actually BTH is bad this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 It is. Stun needs 3 Warnings It also needs 3 Duality to be able to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 You need Aitsu, Koitsu, and Suitsu for make glorious Anti Meta deck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='wiithepeople' timestamp='1295290567' post='4941099'] You need Aitsu, Koitsu, and Suitsu for make glorious Anti Meta deck! [/quote] your forgot Doitsu and don't be stupid. Your missing Duality, although the Deck can be run without it, it just solves that consistency issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewk Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1295284040' post='4940833'] Actually BTH is bad this format. [/quote] [quote name='Placido.' timestamp='1295286706' post='4940963'] It is. Stun needs 3 Warnings It also needs 3 Duality to be able to keep up. [/quote] I'm still living in the format where it was staple to run 2 then? D': Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01894645616843521321 Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 How in the world is Bottomless Trap Hole bad in this or any other format? It's a card that kills a monster 1500+ attack and removes it from play. And I also don't have to pay 2000 life points to use it either. Warning is a good card don't get me wrong, but the fact that it restricts how and when you use it makes it much less efficient than Bottomless Trap Hole and makes it a dead draw. If you're life points are lower than 2000 the card is rendered useless. Just because I run anti-meta doesn't mean my life will never be that low. I've been running Anti-Meta since before Doomcaliber was even out to the public, it's a hard deck to use. You have to think every single play. Not like every other deck which is on auto pilot. EVERYTHING matters; hand, field, and life point advantage are all very important cause my plays are just 1 for 1 and prevent win conditions. Anti-Meta doesn't have a win condition of its own, it's win conditions is preventing my opponents win condition. Most of the time you have to be lucky and have a good starting hand, it's very hard to work with 6 monsters in hand. But with other decks 6 monsters might be bad, but you can comeback from it. Sure Solemn Warning is a great card at 3, in decks where it doesn't matter if you have 2000 or less life because you can comeback with 3+ Synchros. Most decks today explode for game win, Such as X-Saber, Quickdraw/Debris Plant, Fish exc. It's okay to use a card that makes you're life points 2000 cause you're just gonna get out 3 synchros and win. Which is fine thats how the game works, but not in this deck. One misplay and I will lose, every life point matters, every card matters. I don't want to be at 1500 life and draw into a Solemn Warning. Most decks plays are, Summon 2-4 big monsters and attack for game, this decks plays are, destroy 1 card, summon a monster between 1900-1200 attack, set back-row end. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Okay, as for the good advice I received by running Duality. It's important I agree and it would give the deck more zip. But it's not as important as you think. In most decks you play Duality and you're like "cool I need this card to win." In this deck your Duality's look like; Doomcaliber, Book of Moon, Dark Bribe. Or King Tiger, Dimensional Prison, Thunder King. Not exactly gonna be game breaking, sure I could Duality a Dark Hole or an Oppression maybe Mirror Force, but it's statistically improbable compared to the cards I run 3 of, which is a lot. If I had 3 Duality's, I would probably only run 1 or 2 just for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 [quote name='Starner30' timestamp='1295523743' post='4946507'] How in the world is Bottomless Trap Hole bad in this or any other format? It's a card that kills a monster 1500+ attack and removes it from play. And I also don't have to pay 2000 life points to use it either. Warning is a good card don't get me wrong, but the fact that it restricts how and when you use it makes it much less efficient than Bottomless Trap Hole and makes it a dead draw. If you're life points are lower than 2000 the card is rendered useless. Just because I run anti-meta doesn't mean my life will never be that low. I've been running Anti-Meta since before Doomcaliber was even out to the public, it's a hard deck to use. You have to think every single play. Not like every other deck which is on auto pilot. EVERYTHING matters; hand, field, and life point advantage are all very important cause my plays are just 1 for 1 and prevent win conditions. Anti-Meta doesn't have a win condition of its own, it's win conditions is preventing my opponents win condition. Most of the time you have to be lucky and have a good starting hand, it's very hard to work with 6 monsters in hand. But with other decks 6 monsters might be bad, but you can comeback from it. Sure Solemn Warning is a great card at 3, in decks where it doesn't matter if you have 2000 or less life because you can comeback with 3+ Synchros. Most decks today explode for game win, Such as X-Saber, Quickdraw/Debris Plant, Fish exc. It's okay to use a card that makes you're life points 2000 cause you're just gonna get out 3 synchros and win. Which is fine thats how the game works, but not in this deck. One misplay and I will lose, every life point matters, every card matters. I don't want to be at 1500 life and draw into a Solemn Warning. Most decks plays are, Summon 2-4 big monsters and attack for game, this decks plays are, destroy 1 card, summon a monster between 1900-1200 attack, set back-row end. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Okay, as for the good advice I received by running Duality. It's important I agree and it would give the deck more zip. But it's not as important as you think. In most decks you play Duality and you're like "cool I need this card to win." In this deck your Duality's look like; Doomcaliber, Book of Moon, Dark Bribe. Or King Tiger, Dimensional Prison, Thunder King. Not exactly gonna be game breaking, sure I could Duality a Dark Hole or an Oppression maybe Mirror Force, but it's statistically improbable compared to the cards I run 3 of, which is a lot. If I had 3 Duality's, I would probably only run 1 or 2 just for that reason. [/quote] You have no understanding of the current format what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＢＥＬＩＳＫ Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 What Placido said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 [quote name='InconsistentDecks' timestamp='1295554794' post='4947155'] What Placido said. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＢＥＬＩＳＫ Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 OP, do you enjoy losing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 What ID, Placido and with said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 as above. Consistency = Good No Duality = Less Consistency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01894645616843521321 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Placido.' timestamp='1295554184' post='4947130'] You have no understanding of the current format what so ever. [/quote] I must not, you're right. Thats why every top 32 deck list at the most recent YCS uses 2 BTH as well (except the ones that ran 3 decree). I guess they don't know the current format either. And please don't say I net deck because I would love for you to find me an Anti-Meta deck built exactly like that. I'm just stating a fact that everyone who wants to win will run BTH, it is common knowledge. But you're right, the rest of the world and I don't know the format, for only you do. You have the keys to success, not I. I surrender this argument, because there is no way I can compete with your brilliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Solemn warning >>>>>>>>> bottomless Solemn Warning negates the summon Bottomless doesnt Solemn Warning can negate a monster with any amount of ATK Bottomless only destroys a monster with 1500 or more attack which means alot of the monsters will be able to use their effects. Its better to use 3 Warning 0 BTH than 2 Warning 2 BTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＢＥＬＩＳＫ Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 YCS doesn't mean anything. BTH doesn't hurt any of the top tier decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01894645616843521321 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='InconsistentDecks' timestamp='1295604738' post='4948430'] YCS doesn't mean anything. BTH doesn't hurt any of the top tier decks. [/quote] Yeah I guess BTH as no effect on Gravekeeper's, you're right. All their monsters are well over 1500 with Necrovally on board but whatever. I understand the point, I'm most likely going to run a 3rd Solemn Warning and keep both BTH. Seems pretty good to me. I think 3 SW and 2 BTH is better than 2 SW and 2 BTH or 3 SW and 0 BTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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