.Nu-13 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Dunno, but maybe drop a Stardust for Scrap Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1295738213' post='4952705'] Dunno, but maybe drop a Stardust for Scrap Dragon [/quote] While I'll admit that I rarely pull out the second Stardust, I'll say that Scrap Dragon abuse is only really possible in this deck when Map is still in it. I usually can't spare the cards (which is also one of the reasons why I've never used Brionac in here). That said, Map will probably be added back in after my testing if I find that I don't have enough revival. That's why I was running Map in the first place, anyways. Maybe listing all Synchros that could be good in here and narrowing from there would be a more efficient method? I'll try it out loud and see what happens: [spoiler=Intermediate Steps]Non-Synchro: Chimeratech Fortress Dragon LV2: Formula Synchron LV3: N/A LV4: Armory Arm LV5: Ally of Justice Catastor, Magical Android, Naturia Beast, Tech Genus Hyper Librarian LV6: Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, Flamvell Uruquizas, Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth, Goyo Guardian, Naturia Barkion LV7: Ancient Fairy Dragon, Ancient Sacred Wyvern, Black Rose Dragon, Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 “Burei”, Lightning Warrior, Naturia Landoise, Power Tool Dragon, Scrap Archfiend, X-Saber Urbellum LV8: Avenging Knight Parshath, Blood Mephist, Colossal Fighter, Life Stream Dragon, Light End Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, Scrap Dragon, Stardust Dragon, Thought Ruler Archfiend LV9: Ally of Justice Field Marshal, Mist Wurm, Naturia Leodrake, Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, XX-Saber Gottoms LV10: Ally of Justice Decisive Armor, Shooting Star Dragon, Tech Genus Blade Blaster LV12: Red Nova Dragon, Tech Genus Halberd Cannon 39 different Synchros + CFD... Now, if I cut them down to ones I would realistically consider: Non-Synchro: Chimeratech Fortress Dragon LV2: Formula Synchron LV3: N/A LV4: Armory Arm LV5: Ally of Justice Catastor, Magical Android, Naturia Beast, Tech Genus Hyper Librarian LV6: Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, Goyo Guardian, Naturia Barkion LV7: Ancient Fairy Dragon, Ancient Sacred Wyvern, Black Rose Dragon, Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 “Burei”, Naturia Landoise, Power Tool Dragon LV8: Colossal Fighter, Life Stream Dragon, Light End Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, Scrap Dragon, Stardust Dragon, Thought Ruler Archfiend LV9: Mist Wurm, Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, XX-Saber Gottoms LV10: Ally of Justice Decisive Armor, Shooting Star Dragon, Tech Genus Blade Blaster LV12: Red Nova Dragon, Tech Genus Halberd Cannon That's still 30 Synchros + CFD... Then, if I cut out the ones that are strictly outclassed/not-so-helpful with the way the deck is built at the moment, I get:[/spoiler] Non-Synchro: Chimeratech Fortress Dragon LV2: Formula Synchron LV3: N/A LV4: Armory Arm LV5: Ally of Justice Catastor, Naturia Beast, Tech Genus Hyper Librarian LV6: Goyo Guardian, Naturia Barkion LV7: Ancient Fairy Dragon, Ancient Sacred Wyvern, Black Rose Dragon, Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 “Burei”, Power Tool Dragon LV8: Colossal Fighter, Life Stream Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, Stardust Dragon, Thought Ruler Archfiend LV9: Mist Wurm, Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, XX-Saber Gottoms LV10: Ally of Justice Decisive Armor, Shooting Star Dragon, Tech Genus Blade Blaster LV12: Red Nova Dragon Even after all of that, there's still 24 Synchros + CFD to select from... Though I should probably just side CFD, that still leaves 24 options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 So maybe: 1 Formula Synchron 1 Armory Arm 1 Tech Genus Hyper Librarian 1 Goyo Gurdian 1 Ancient Fairy Dragon 1 Ancient Sacred Wyvern 1 Power Tool Dragon 1 Black Rose Dragon 1 Colossal Fighter 1 Life Stream Dragon 1 Stardust Dragon 1 Thought Ruler Archfiend 1 Colossal Fighter 1 XX-Saber Gottoms 1 Shooting Star Dragon/Red Nova Dragon (whichever you want) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1295776524' post='4953945'] So maybe: 1 Formula Synchron 1 Armory Arm 1 Tech Genus Hyper Librarian 1 Goyo Gurdian 1 Ancient Fairy Dragon 1 Ancient Sacred Wyvern 1 Power Tool Dragon 1 Black Rose Dragon 1 Colossal Fighter 1 Life Stream Dragon 1 Stardust Dragon 1 Thought Ruler Archfiend 1 Colossal Fighter 1 XX-Saber Gottoms 1 Shooting Star Dragon/Red Nova Dragon (whichever you want) [/quote] So you basically removed the Scrap Archfiend, CFD (which I'm siding), and the extra Stardust in order to add in a second Colossal, Formula, and Shooting Star/Red Nova? If I were to choose Red Nova, I'd need to add in RDA first. In any case, I assume listing Colossal twice was an error? As for Shooting Star VS Red Nova, I'll decide that later after running a few calculations on my chances of getting more than 1 attack with its effect. If the chances are too low with [s]6[/s] 4 Tuners (I'd need to use 2 to summon it in the first place), I'll just go with Red Nova... Owait. 4 Tuners out of a deck of 30ish at best... Even if I do get to pick up 5, that doesn't look very good... So I'll replace your obviously typo'd second Colossal with an RDA and select Red Nova. That leaves a rather balanced-looking Extra Deck. Now, If I could find a simulator that has Life Stream and Lighton on it, I can go test this. Ultimately, that amounts to waiting for YVD/DMG to update with EXVC. I'll bump this thread after that happens and I get a few tests in. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Yeah, double Colossal was an error. Download this: http://www.4shared.com/file/Y7RahtUQ/yvd.html (YVD update wiht EXVC in it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 OK, Lighton's better than I give it credit for, merely because it's a Morphtroinic. The Main Deck seems to be OK. *sides Chain Disappearance over Rai-Oh* Does anyone have any Side Deck suggestions? Also, I want to squeeze in Shooting Star, because I found it stupid easy to summon (even though I'll rarely be able to multi-attack with it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1295740657' post='4952812'] While I'll admit that I rarely pull out the second Stardust, I'll say that Scrap Dragon abuse is only really possible in this deck when Map is still in it. I usually can't spare the cards (which is also one of the reasons why I've never used Brionac in here). That said, Map will probably be added back in after my testing if I find that I don't have enough revival. That's why I was running Map in the first place, anyways. Maybe listing all Synchros that could be good in here and narrowing from there would be a more efficient method? I'll try it out loud and see what happens: [spoiler=Intermediate Steps]Non-Synchro: Chimeratech Fortress Dragon LV2: Formula Synchron LV3: N/A LV4: Armory Arm LV5: Ally of Justice Catastor, Magical Android, Naturia Beast, Tech Genus Hyper Librarian LV6: Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, Flamvell Uruquizas, Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth, Goyo Guardian, Naturia Barkion LV7: Ancient Fairy Dragon, Ancient Sacred Wyvern, Black Rose Dragon, Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 “Burei”, Lightning Warrior, Naturia Landoise, Power Tool Dragon, Scrap Archfiend, X-Saber Urbellum LV8: Avenging Knight Parshath, Blood Mephist, Colossal Fighter, Life Stream Dragon, Light End Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, Scrap Dragon, Stardust Dragon, Thought Ruler Archfiend LV9: Ally of Justice Field Marshal, Mist Wurm, Naturia Leodrake, Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, XX-Saber Gottoms LV10: Ally of Justice Decisive Armor, Shooting Star Dragon, Tech Genus Blade Blaster LV12: Red Nova Dragon, Tech Genus Halberd Cannon 39 different Synchros + CFD... Now, if I cut them down to ones I would realistically consider: Non-Synchro: Chimeratech Fortress Dragon LV2: Formula Synchron LV3: N/A LV4: Armory Arm LV5: Ally of Justice Catastor, Magical Android, Naturia Beast, Tech Genus Hyper Librarian LV6: Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, Goyo Guardian, Naturia Barkion LV7: Ancient Fairy Dragon, Ancient Sacred Wyvern, Black Rose Dragon, Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 “Burei”, Naturia Landoise, Power Tool Dragon LV8: Colossal Fighter, Life Stream Dragon, Light End Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, Scrap Dragon, Stardust Dragon, Thought Ruler Archfiend LV9: Mist Wurm, Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, XX-Saber Gottoms LV10: Ally of Justice Decisive Armor, Shooting Star Dragon, Tech Genus Blade Blaster LV12: Red Nova Dragon, Tech Genus Halberd Cannon That's still 30 Synchros + CFD... Then, if I cut out the ones that are strictly outclassed/not-so-helpful with the way the deck is built at the moment, I get:[/spoiler] Non-Synchro: Chimeratech Fortress Dragon LV2: Formula Synchron LV3: N/A LV4: Armory Arm LV5: Ally of Justice Catastor, Naturia Beast, Tech Genus Hyper Librarian LV6: Goyo Guardian, Naturia Barkion LV7: Ancient Fairy Dragon, Ancient Sacred Wyvern, Black Rose Dragon, Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 “Burei”, Power Tool Dragon LV8: Colossal Fighter, Life Stream Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, Stardust Dragon, Thought Ruler Archfiend LV9: Mist Wurm, Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, XX-Saber Gottoms LV10: Ally of Justice Decisive Armor, Shooting Star Dragon, Tech Genus Blade Blaster LV12: Red Nova Dragon Even after all of that, there's still 24 Synchros + CFD to select from... Though I should probably just side CFD, that still leaves 24 options. [/quote] Better make that 25 as you're forgetting Karakuri Bureido. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='wiithepeople' timestamp='1295840972' post='4956471'] Better make that 25 as you're forgetting Karakuri Bureido. [/quote] I saw it. It sucks in Morphs. In any case, the only Synchro I think I need to add to the one I'm currently using is Shooting Star, and even that's a little iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Side Puppet Plants and Crustshoot. Samurais are incoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1295864183' post='4957037'] Side Puppet Plants and Crustshoot. Samurais are incoming [/quote] Space Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 -3 Decree +1 Puppet Plant +1 Mind Crush +1 Trap Dustshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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