Anbu-of-Sand Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 [center][color=blue]Didn't feel like making 2 separate topics for them. [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090618025730/yugioh/images/thumb/2/22/ThunderKingRai-OhYG02-EN-ScR-LE.png/300px-ThunderKingRai-OhYG02-EN-ScR-LE.png[/img] [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090715014329/yugioh/images/thumb/5/53/DoomcaliberKnightSJCS-EN-UR-LE.png/300px-DoomcaliberKnightSJCS-EN-UR-LE.png[/img] [b]Discuss[/b] - Which one do you prefer over the other, why and why not - Your opinion on the cards on their own - Decks you Side Deck / Main Them in Two of my favorite cards. There effects are da bomb. Chaos Stun is da bomb. Getting one of each on the field is pure rape over your opponent, for me that is. Sure Doomcaliber can backfire, but normally it backfires on one of my LIGHT monsters, which leads to me having just what I need in the Grave to get out Chaos Sorcerer. Thinking of some odd, really odd Chaos Rock Stun Variant with both of them. Probably going to fail though. There stats, epic art, and bad-ass-ish names is just icing on the cake. [/color][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 inb4 Thunder King Thunder King Doomcal does better against Book. Both are good in various situations. Rai-Oh is great when your opponent forgets it stops Duality. It REALLY depends on the format and the Deck, but if I had to assign arbitrary 'better' condition to one, it'd probably be Rai-Oh. Also, Doomcal should still be called SKULL DISCOVERY KNIGHT like in WC06. Oh WC06<3 Both are used in some versions of [acronym='60 Card Themeless Highlander]60CTH[/acronym] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 If you had both on the field at the same time, then your opponent wouldn't need to be afraid to Special Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 They need MOAR reprints. They're too good to not have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Doomcal is amazing but it has its counters. Rai-Oh is a bit more of a headache for the opponent to deal with. I've played both so much the last year. They are both just incredible if you already have a nice monster on the field. Doomcaliber + Dark Gaia is fun, and Thunder King + Silent Swordsman LV5 or LV7(yeah that's right what!) is great. I feel so biased when saying this, but they are easily some of the best Level 4 monsters outside of an archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Rai-oh in a Watt Deck for the lulz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1296946623' post='4990921'] Also, Doomcal should still be called SKULL DISCOVERY KNIGHT like in WC06. Oh WC06<3[/quote] WC06 is tha bomb. I hate these cards, cuz I'm playing a quickdraw deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted February 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='CDDRodrigo' timestamp='1296957194' post='4991331'] I hate these cards, cuz I'm playing a quickdraw deck. [/quote] -Slaps- HOW DARE YOU HATE CHAOS!!1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1296957643' post='4991357'] -Slaps- HOW DARE YOU HATE CHAOS!!1! [/quote] I hate these cards, not chaos. In fact, CED is my secret love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkend2575 Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 They both are amazing. And i pray doom caliber gets reprinted in a special edition or maybe gold series 4 but i doubt it happening. Also treeborn lols at doomcaliber knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I prefer Rai-Oh, simply because Doomcalibur is a mandatory effect, so it'll kill itself a lot, and even if for a worthy cause, I like having the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted February 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1296963956' post='4991676'] I prefer Rai-Oh, simply because Doomcalibur is a mandatory effect, so it'll kill itself a lot, and even if for a worthy cause, I like having the option. [/quote] True, Doomcaliber Knight would be much more better if it was an 'You can' effect. It's pretty awesome stats though for a Level 4 somewhat balances that out though, for me that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='wiithepeople' timestamp='1296957025' post='4991325'] Rai-oh in a Watt Deck for the lulz! [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I disagree on the stats helping it out. The 1900/1800 stats are wasted because all you have to do is activate a monster effect or force one of your opponent's monster effects to activate, and it'll kill itself, possibly even backfiring on its master's own cards to add insult to injury. It hinders both players, which I suppose is the balancing factor, alongside its inability to be Special Summoned. Thunder King also prevents its owner from adding cards to the hand, but that's a lot less crippling than losing a monster if you dare activate a monster effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote]Oh WC06<3[/quote] Best WC game by a long shot. [quote]I disagree on the stats helping it out. [/quote] Tell that to the GeeBees. Doomcaliber was better until Formula Synchron was released and Frog variants started seeing more play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Thunder King is more verstatile... Doomcaliber auto loses to Frogs.... (damned Treeborn...) but both are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1296979653' post='4992267'] Doomcaliber was better until Formula Synchron was released and Frog variants started seeing more play. [/quote] This. OT: Both have different effects but an unique concept: [s]troll[/s] annoy your opponent. I prefer Rai-Oh because he is Light but Doomcaliber wins hands down in term of stats and art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1296979653' post='4992267']Doomcaliber was better until Formula Synchron was released and Frog variants started seeing more play. [/quote] [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/8/87/EffectVeilerDP10-EN-R-1E.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [img]http://liveforfilms.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lex-luthor-wrong.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Manjoume Thunder: I summon Doomcaliber Knight. Me: I discard effect veiler. ..... Manjoume Thunder: *offers handshake* King has always outclassed Doom and always will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Both are amazing in Chaos and Anti-Meta builds. As for which which one's better, both are good, can't really decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1297005676' post='4992763'] Manjoume Thunder: I summon Doomcaliber Knight. Me: I discard effect veiler. ..... Manjoume Thunder: *offers handshake* King has always outclassed Doom and always will. [/quote] Result: Doomcaliber tributes itself to negate Effect Veiler. I guess if you don't have any better ways of dealing with DCK o.x; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1297017805' post='4993206'] Result: Doomcaliber tributes itself to negate Effect Veiler. I guess if you don't have any better ways of dealing with DCK o.x; [/quote] Discarding to kill a monster on your opponent's turn is a pretty good play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1297018556' post='4993231'] Discarding to kill a monster on your opponent's turn is a pretty good play. [/quote] Yeah...If u happen to be a wuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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