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ROFL, the reason why this is so much more ammusing to me is that legalizing weed, is such a simple process too. Of course any bill that goes through the commities may never come to the supreme court nor do even 50% of all bills and proposals pass legislation. but i personally think any proposal that goes through the commitie of transportation and commerce is a walk in the park. But alas just because it is the easiest substance to legalize dosnt make every other substance easy to legalize as well, its just a really bad argument, it has no value to it.

also the idiot who said this
"if legalize it will bring in druglords and harden crimals form around the world to america which will cause untold problems"
what are you 7?

the only reason druglords and criminals are a big deal is because its illegal,
selling weed legally means government can put a tax on it
the value of it, is greatly reduced, putting drug lords out of business.
our relationship with the mexican government will only be positive for solving over 50% of their opium problems
legalizing it actually supports and stimulates the economy, although it may not be the most ethical method it is very VERY efficeint

if you've never burned in your life or only seen the stupid teenagers getting addicted to a non-addictive substance to look cool
"yeah im a chronic, im bad ass" *facedesk* no your not you're just a retard
then obviously you cant judge/talk s***/stop those who burn sensibly. Im not telling you, you have to burn, Im just telling you dont stop us.

P.S this is hella fun arguments can this be moved to debates? request request
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[quote name='The Way of the Garo' timestamp='1301941843' post='5114197']It's quite funny you hate something which you know so little about, Josh. Sure, maybe you've had bad personal experiences, but we both know that Alcohol is much more detrimental in every way to society as whole than Marijuana. You say it might as well kill, well, Alcohol does kill, and Alcohol ruins many more lives than Weed does. Ever met an angry pothead? I haven't. Ever seen someone drunk get violent and beat their children? I have. Ever met a marijuana user who rails on someone in a bad way? I haven't. Ever met an alcoholic who likes to verbally abuse the people who make him mad? I have. You know what my girlfriend's drunken mother told her? That she wished she was aborted. The worst thing I've ever heard a person say that was high on Marijuana was that our government sucks, and we weren't even talking about weed. [/quote]
Alcohol and marijuana are both problems they should be gone from this world forever... I dont care how alledgedly beneficial this piece of muk is to some people its a taint and should be destroyed getting high is wrong period (in my opinion) Oh and by the way Marijuana CAN cause cancer you belligerent idiot... I hate this plant I hate every god forsaken plant that is used for crap like this Whether Alcohol is more detrimental or Marijuana is more detrimental they both suck and I want them gone from this world for good... As much as that isnt going to happen I hope some people get the common sense that this stuff is purely disgusting...
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[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1301943436' post='5114255']
Alcohol and marijuana are both problems they should be gone from this world forever... I dont care how alledgedly beneficial this piece of muk is to some people its a taint and should be destroyed getting high is wrong period (in my opinion) Oh and by the way Marijuana CAN cause cancer you beligerent idiot... I hate this plant I hate every god forsaken plant that is used for crap like this Whether Alcohol is more detrimental or Marijuana is more detrimental they both suck and I want them gone from this world for good... As much as that isnt going to happen I hope some people get the common sense that this stuff is purely disgusting...
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You call me an idiot, yet you can't even spell belligerent correctly. Do your damn research. SMOKING ANYTHING CAN POTENTIALLY CAUSE CANCER. Don't be so f***ing naïve. Pot itself doesn't cause cancer, in fact, studies show it helps against head, lung, and neck cancers, as well as tumors. How is getting high wrong? Ease the pain you have from cancer or glaucoma, make something taste better than it normally would, enjoy music to a greater extent, have an added sense of hilariousness and fun to a night out. I don't know why you would want to put something down that's really beneficial. Don't post about this if you don't know what your talking about. From what I can see, you really don't.
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[quote name='The Way of the Garo' timestamp='1301943864' post='5114269']
You call me an idiot, yet you can't even spell belligerent correctly. Do your damn research. SMOKING ANYTHING CAN POTENTIALLY CAUSE CANCER. Don't be so f***ing naïve. Pot itself doesn't cause cancer, in fact, studies show it helps against head, lung, and neck cancers, as well as tumors. How is getting high wrong? Ease the pain you have from cancer or glaucoma, make something taste better than it normally would, enjoy music to a greater extent, have an added sense of hilariousness and fun to a night out. I don't know why you would want to put something down that's really beneficial. Don't post about this if you don't know what your talking about. From what I can see, you really don't.
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http://www.buzzle.com/articles/is-marijuana-really-that-bad-for-you.html You say it isnt addictive yet this guy says differently...
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[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1301944000' post='5114273']
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/is-marijuana-really-that-bad-for-you.html You say it isnt addictive yet this guy says differently...
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I said there was no physical dependency, there is a difference. Sure, you can get a mental addiction to pot, but you can get a damn mental addiction to just about anything. Don't be so damn stupid. If you get addicted to a 360, does that mean all 360's should be banned because someone got mentally addicted to playing Street Fighter all day? No. But there's no physical dependency on playing the 360. It won't destroy your immune system or make you sickly if you don't play. Just like pot won't do that if you stop using it even though you're mentally addicted.

[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1301944180' post='5114283']
ITT: Everyone is an expert of pot.
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I like to consider myself an expert, considering I've done heavy research and actually used it before.
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[quote name='The Way of the Garo' timestamp='1301941843' post='5114197']
Mind altering? Really? Have you EVER been actually high off of Cannabis in your life? It doesn't make you hallucinate, it doesn't make you enraged, it doesn't produce physical dependency or kill braincells, I'm really failing to see where it's so mind altering, unless you find that taking something that makes food taste better, makes music sound better, makes the times you have with your friends more fun, makes sex better, etc. Mind altering in a bad way.
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No, I HAVEN'T been high... that's the damn point.
I've seen the kind of jackassery it can lead to.
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[quote name='The Way of the Garo' timestamp='1301941843' post='5114197']
*insert Garo's response to me*
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I have seen an angry person while under its influence (far harder to control than an alcoholic mind you).
I have seen people in all sorts of angry states while under it.
I have seen more people lose control while under it, than I have alcohol.
My biology completely rejects it, and the chemicals throw me into a state of rage (I have had the horrifying misfortune of being in a room with a bunch of those no-life rejects who make basement dweller nerds from stories look sanitary by comparisson).
I have seen the plant destroy an entire culture and ruin families.

Don't tell me I know little about it. Sure it may be isolated experiences, and some unique to my own body but that doesn't mean I know little.
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[quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1301944922' post='5114313']
I have seen an angry person while under its influence (far harder to control than an alcoholic mind you).
I have seen people in all sorts of angry states while under it.
I have seen more people lose control while under it, than I have alcohol.
My biology completely rejects it, and the chemicals throw me into a state of rage (I have had the horrifying misfortune of being in a room with a bunch of those no-life rejects who make basement dweller nerds from stories look sanitary by comparisson).
I have seen the plant destroy an entire culture and ruin families.

Don't tell me I know little about it. Sure it may be isolated experiences, and some unique to my own body but that doesn't mean I know little.
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man a bummer you had to see that side of the story.
although i cant find sympathy for those lives destroyed by weed (yeah im a dick)
i can see why your opinions are valid
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[quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1301944922' post='5114313']
I have seen an angry person while under its influence (far harder to control than an alcoholic mind you).
I have seen people in all sorts of angry states while under it.
I have seen more people lose control while under it, than I have alcohol.
My biology completely rejects it, and the chemicals throw me into a state of rage (I have had the horrifying misfortune of being in a room with a bunch of those no-life rejects who make basement dweller nerds from stories look sanitary by comparisson).
I have seen the plant destroy an entire culture and ruin families.

Don't tell me I know little about it. Sure it may be isolated experiences, and some unique to my own body but that doesn't mean I know little.
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Then you're a one of a kind. Because I've hardly heard of anyone being angry under it's influence. You ever thought maybe it wasn't Marijuana, or it was laced? And an entire culture? What culture are you referring to? Because for an ENTIRE CULTURE to be destroyed by it, it should have a record somewhere. And ruin families? You tell me of the families that are ruined solely by the use of a plant. We had a man here in KY. one time, who was an alcoholic. He ended up getting too drunk one night, started beating his wife, and his children, one of whom was five years old. He ended up tying his family up in the basement and burning down his house with them inside. He sat there until the police arrived late morning, the man was sobbing, saying he didn't know what he had done. You ever heard of such things happening from a marijuana user? Maybe you have, but we both know that on the overall whole, alcohol is a much more violent, hate driven substance than marijuana.
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[quote name='The Way of the Garo' timestamp='1301946040' post='5114367']
Then you're a one of a kind. Because I've hardly heard of anyone being angry under it's influence. You ever thought maybe it wasn't Marijuana, or it was laced? And an entire culture? What culture are you referring to? Because for an ENTIRE CULTURE to be destroyed by it, it should have a record somewhere. And ruin families? You tell me of the families that are ruined solely by the use of a plant. We had a man here in KY. one time, who was an alcoholic. He ended up getting too drunk one night, started beating his wife, and his children, one of whom was five years old. He ended up tying his family up in the basement and burning down his house with them inside. He sat there until the police arrived late morning, the man was sobbing, saying he didn't know what he had done. You ever heard of such things happening from a marijuana user? Maybe you have, but we both know that on the overall whole, alcohol is a much more violent, hate driven substance than marijuana.
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That doesn't mean they both shouldn't be eliminated because they are both wrong...
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[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1301946160' post='5114373']
That doesn't mean they both shouldn't be eliminated because they are both wrong...
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Abuse is wrong. The substance itself usually isn't. Marijuana itself is very good for you, and even in it's "abuse" still is. Alcohol is good in moderation, but overloading it is terrible for you, to the point of death.
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I'd rather explain the culture thing over MSN or something. And again Garo, entirely different experiences. Coupled with my own body rejecting it, and reacting violently to it, gives me every reason to hate it (if in a controlled state which I am trying for).
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[quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1301946600' post='5114395']
I'd rather explain the culture thing over MSN or something. And again Garo, entirely different cultures. Coupled with my own body rejecting it, and reacting violently to it, gives me every reason to hate it (if in a controlled state which I am trying for).
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Well, I'll be on later, if I see you on there I would gladly like to hear about it. Ah, so we had a different definition of culture in mind. That was my bad. You can hate it, just my initial observation, as wrong as it may have been, was that you were like others bashing something you had no experience or knowledge in, which was my mistake, and for any loss on your family or friends that may have been had, my condolences. Again, I'll be on MSN later if you'd like to explain it to me.
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[quote name='The Way of the Garo' timestamp='1301946926' post='5114408']
Well, I'll be on later, if I see you on there I would gladly like to hear about it. Ah, so we had a different definition of culture in mind. That was my bad. You can hate it, just my initial observation, as wrong as it may have been, was that you were like others bashing something you had no experience or knowledge in, which was my mistake, and for any loss on your family or friends that may have been had, my condolences. Again, I'll be on MSN later if you'd like to explain it to me.
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Someone was smoking pot where I lived one time and the next thing I knew there was a fire :P

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[quote name='The Way of the Garo' timestamp='1301944857' post='5114309']
I said there was no physical dependency, there is a difference. Sure, you can get a mental addiction to pot, but you can get a damn mental addiction to just about anything. Don't be so damn stupid. If you get addicted to a 360, does that mean all 360's should be banned because someone got mentally addicted to playing Street Fighter all day? No. But there's no physical dependency on playing the 360. It won't destroy your immune system or make you sickly if you don't play. Just like pot won't do that if you stop using it even though you're mentally addicted.
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I'm just saying, but Halu probably isn't even reading what you say at all, he's just continuing to voice his opinion despite what others say.

[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1301947457' post='5114423']
Someone was smoking pot where I lived one time and the next thing I knew there was a fire :P
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There was a guy I knew who left the stove on, and the next thing he knew his house was on fire :P

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[quote name='Thatnoobkorean' timestamp='1301948213' post='5114453']
lol one time i smoked pot i wrote a thesis on the political theory of federalism
and I Aced it
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Lolz I once new a guy who smoked pot while hanging out with a couple of friends, They ended up going to his house where he grabbed an old guitar of his and started playing "Ain't No Grave Can Hold My Body Down" by Johnny Cash... He did it perfectly and he said he had only heard the song once XD... He also said he doesn't remember playing but my friend swears he did...
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[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1301948408' post='5114463']
Lolz I once new a guy who smoked pot while hanging out with a couple of friends, They ended up going to his house where he grabbed an old guitar of his and started playing "Ain't No Grave Can Hold My Body Down" by Johnny Cash... He did it perfectly and he said he had only heard the song once XD... He also said he doesn't remember playing but my friend swears he did...
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He probably did. A friend of mine was able to play MANY songs on guitar and piano while high, by just figuring out the notes as he listened. It took him about an hour, 1 1/2 blunts, and about 6 tries to play Hot For Teacher by Van Halen correctly. But he did it. Couldn't play the song for s*** while sober, though. I mean, he eventually learned again, but it was easier for him while high.
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