Messenger of Hades - Gors: Discussion Thread

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Messenger_of_Hades_-_Gors

 

Bar none, one of the best cards in the game right now. It basically punishes your opponent for playing good.

[Silencerleader]

This was already posted. Nice card, but just to good...if used right.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

Really? I searched, but I came up with nothing. Oh, well... I agree that it can't be used against any old attack, but even against a Monarch it wrecks plans. It gives you an instant +1 when you need it the most.

[tonisanoob]

hmmm yhea

but you do need to control NO cards

so might not work in every deck (your final countdown one for example ^_^)

 

but yhea it is really good and has decent attack

 

also would that token be allowed to attack?

[Azuh]

its alright... it can be useful

 

and yes... the token can attack cause tis a monster >.>

[Cyber Altair]

nice card, unfortinatly it's limited, only in OCG and that you must not have any card.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

nice card' date=' unfortinatly it's limited, only in OCG and that you must not have any card.

[/quote']

 

If I had it my way, it would be banned before it got over here. The not having any cards on the field is a major drawback, I admit, but in order for you to not have any cards on the field, your opponent would have probably used most of their removal cards. If you can survive an attack by a Monarch, this card ruins lots of well laid plans.

[pizzaman]

Yay, found the topic.

 

After playing Duel Online and dueling some Japanese people with the cards available to the OCG, I'm pretty certain that Gors adds a new level of decision making to the game, a bit like Mirror Force.

 

Plus, opening the duel without playing any cards will stop the opponent from S.summoning CyDra, and works as a nice bluff when you have a bad opening hand (although this is hard now, since Gors is limited, and what are the chances of him ending up in the starting hand?)

 

The burn damage S.summon is used less, but can end as a duel ender if it's later on in the duel, although this summon kills the merit of being able to be summoned in the Damage Step, which basically lets Gors avoid Bottomless Trap Holes and T.Tribute.

 

[edit] But Mind Crush kills Gors easily when playing against experienced players :/

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

Plus' date=' opening the duel without playing any cards will stop the opponent from S.summoning CyDra, and works as a nice bluff when you have a bad opening hand (although this is hard now, since Gors is limited, and what are the chances of him ending up in the starting hand?)

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All the better to try and trick your opponent if you do happen to get it in the opening hand. If they try to call your bluff once, they get 2 nice monsters to deal with. The next time they might not be so forceful.

[pizzaman]

Plus' date=' opening the duel without playing any cards will stop the opponent from S.summoning CyDra, and works as a nice bluff when you have a bad opening hand (although this is hard now, since Gors is limited, and what are the chances of him ending up in the starting hand?)

[/quote']

 

All the better to try and trick your opponent if you do happen to get it in the opening hand. If they try to call your bluff once, they get 2 nice monsters to deal with. The next time they might not be so forceful.

Which is a good point, because when it does happen, it'll definitely stop the opponent from being so head-strong in the second duel (and it did happen once while playing Duel Online.)

Although most Japanese players I did duel were quite careful, and usually just summon Raiou/Death Calibur in their opening turn, set a Mind Crush if they had it, then end their turn. I guess they all experienced the horrors of Gors before.

[XanderTheGreat]

This card deserves an automatic ban because it makes bad players look good.

 

Next.

[HORUS]

Basically this card goes in three steps:

 

1. Start losing.

2. Special Summon.

3. Start winning.

[RedSceptile]

This card deserves an automatic ban because it makes bad players look good.

 

Next.

 

Don't forget the whole you know Gorz pisses in your face when ever you do what you're supposed to in YGO and clear the field.

 

Honestly, why the **** did Konami make sheet like Gorz?

[Static]

He has too little to counter him, and makes playing poorly a way to win. Gorz is about as good as confiscation, and we all know what happened when confiscation ran amuck.

 

Gorz messes up the way the game should be played, and makes bad playing actually acceptable, thus, it fails, and should not be allowed.

[pizzaman]

He has too little to counter him' date=' and makes playing poorly a way to win. Gorz is about as good as confiscation, and we all know what happened when confiscation ran amuck.

 

Gorz messes up the way the game should be played, and makes bad playing actually acceptable, thus, it fails, and should not be allowed.

[/quote']

Gors itself is broken, but the mechanic of being able to be summoned in the damage step is interesting, and the requirement of having your field empty adds a new kind of decision making/bluff to the duel.

 

So Konami should just ban Gors and make a weaker beatstick with the same special summoning conditions minus the token creation ability in place. Oh, and no burn damage summoning too.

[wilson91]

Gors would probably be banned here. But yeah, that card is good if used correctly.

[Static]

He has too little to counter him' date=' and makes playing poorly a way to win. Gorz is about as good as confiscation, and we all know what happened when confiscation ran amuck.

 

Gorz messes up the way the game should be played, and makes bad playing actually acceptable, thus, it fails, and should not be allowed.

[/quote']

Gors itself is broken, but the mechanic of being able to be summoned in the damage step is interesting, and the requirement of having your field empty adds a new kind of decision making/bluff to the duel.

 

So Konami should just ban Gors and make a weaker beatstick with the same special summoning conditions minus the token creation ability in place. Oh, and no burn damage summoning too.

 

The Token, if the attack was halved, or it raised Defense alone, would be fair. The effect Damage, I agree, needs to go, and he needs to not be more than 2400 attack.

[Gravitize Me Cap'n!]

I love all the "yeah, it's pretty good, it'll probably be banned". Open your eyes man, it's not.

[pizzaman]

I love all the "yeah' date=' it's pretty good, it'll probably be banned". Open your eyes man, it's not.

[/quote']

Care to explain?

After all it's a 2700 beatstick that comes out on either battle or effect damage, and has token generation.

[CrabHelmet]

I love all the "yeah' date=' it's pretty good, it'll probably be banned". Open your eyes man, it's not.

[/quote']

Care to explain?

After all it's a 2700 beatstick that comes out on either battle or effect damage, and has token generation.

He's saying that the new banlist has come out, and Gorz is still at 1.

[Purple Dinosaur]

I bet the English name will be something like "Gors - Messenger of the Underworld" since God references might offend the Greeks

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

I bet the English name will be something like "Gors - Messenger of the Underworld" since God references might offend the Greeks

 

The Greeks? What do they have to do with it?

[Purple Dinosaur]

Hades is the Greek god of the Underworld

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

Hades is the Greek god of the Underworld

 

Again, I ask: What do the Greeks have to do with what a Japanese card is named when it is translated to English?

[Purple Dinosaur]

um..........................................................................No clue but the point is some still believe in him