Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I checked and double-checked, and there were no topics about Arms Hole. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Arms_Hole Say goodbye to Premature Burial on the next list. This card also makes lots of Equips playable. Milling is also a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 HOLY S**T ON A SANDWICH THATS AMAZING pity its basically impossible to get D=) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Depends on how many people get their hands on it. If not many, then it wont be a problem and they wont ban it (that is, if the ones who have it don't use it too much..) It's probably going to be Limited to 1 when it comes out. At least 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 This card is terrible and utterly worthless. furthermore, WHY WOULD PREMATURE BE FORBIDDEN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 This card is terrible and utterly worthless. furthermore' date=' WHY WOULD PREMATURE BE FORBIDDEN?[/quote']Mill your deck(possibly drop a monster), grab Premature Burial, activate it. Premature Burial is an easy grab with this card. And with Traditional decks this is a major crusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 This card is terrible and utterly worthless. furthermore' date=' WHY WOULD PREMATURE BE FORBIDDEN?[/quote'] How exactly can you say that Arms Hole is terrible and utterly worthless? Did you even read the card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberdude Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Turst horus he nows what hes talking about besides this card is crap no one runs equips professionally anymore and the odds of being able to use its effect is very low to low to put in a deck sleeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Here, let me spell it out for you: Premature Burial may or may not be banned next list. It should be banned, but it very well might not be. Arms Hole is not the only reason, but it is the reason that pushes Premature over the edge. With Arms Hole, you can have basically 4 Premature Burials in your Deck. That means that the Graveyard is raped, basically making it a second hand for Monsters. The game will devove into a "who can dump the biggest monster first" game. The line between good and bad players will start to dim. You see where I am going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 okay, its not THAT bad, but its still not all that great. its a dead draw if you dont have Premature in your grave, and some people dont even run premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberdude Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 thank you horus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 okay' date=' its not THAT bad, but its still not all that great. its a dead draw if you dont have Premature in your grave, and some people dont even run premature.[/quote'] Did you miss the part where it can search it from the deck, too? And this card will make people run Premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slime Lord Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 The only equip card people usually run is Premature, and some don't even run it at all. I mean, I run it, but will I run Arms Hole? No. Why? Because for me, it can only be used on Premature. And not being able to Normal Summon the turn you use it isn't cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 It's not just in the Grave, it also works in your deck. And the discarded card comes from the top of your deck, which means you don't lose card advantage. No one in their right mind can say this isn't a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 The only equip card people usually run is Premature' date=' and some don't even run it at all. I mean, I run it, but will I run Arms Hole? No. Why? Because it can only be used on Premature. (Well, at least in my case)[/quote'] But, you see, because it can search from the deck or Graveyard, it basically has you running 3-4 copies of Premature Burial. You can't say that if Premature Burial was un-Limited, you still wouldn't run it, could you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slime Lord Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 You can't use more than 3 of any card. And I'm fine with 1 Premature. And if Premature wasn't Limited, I'd run a Call before I would run another Premature anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberdude Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 It's not just in the Grave' date=' it also works in your deck. And the discarded card comes from the top of your deck, which means you don't lose card advantage. No one in their right mind can say this isn't a good card.[/quote'] Really well Me Kramer and Colin all are saying thats its bad and were perfectly sane and Kramer knows his *Daylights* he probley along with Eli and george is the best duelist that is activate on this site and no one in there right mind whould call this card useable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 IT DOESNT MATTER. ITS NOT EVEN BEING RELEASED IN AMERICA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 You can't use more than 3 of any card. And I'm fine with 1 Premature. And I'd run a Call before I would run another Premature anyway. Of course you can't use more than 3 of any card. That isn't what I'm saying. I'm saying that Arms Hole pretty much makes 1 Premature Burial into 4' date=' if you run 3 Arms Hole. And the only advantages I can see that Call has over Premature is that it doesn't require a LP cost, and it can be activated during your opponent's Battle Phase. With the advent of Arms Hole, Premature is a lot faster than Call. Really well Me Kramer and Colin all are saying thats its bad and were perfectly sane and Kramer knows his *Daylights* he probley along with Eli and george is the best duelist that is activate on this site and no one in there right mind whould call this card useable Really? What exactly about this card makes it unplayable. Are you even looking at the same card as me? IT DOESNT MATTER. ITS NOT EVEN BEING RELEASED IN AMERICA This is true. For now. But for the time being, isn't it nice to see what Japan is getting? And how it might affect us involentarily through our shared Ban List? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slime Lord Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Whatever, you can go ahead and use it if it ever comes out in English. It's your deck, you can do whatever with it. It's just that enjoy doing well at locals, so I won't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Whatever' date=' you can go ahead and use it if it ever comes out in English. It's your deck, you can do whatever with it. It's just that enjoy doing well at locals, so I won't use it.[/quote'] Meh, I don't even play IRL anymore. I just enjoy arguing my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 really, you overrate a BAD card... why? because you can have 4 premature burials, but you must pay 800LP for each one, also it's mandatory to use it because you can't normal summon (wasting a cyber dragon to not use the premature) and the cost is to drop the top card of the deck... what if the card that you send to activate it is... another arms hole?? you lose one extra premature, and if it were a GOOD card like mirror force, dark bribe or the premature itself?? did you see the ruling if you can recover the card discarded to activate the cost? (if this card targets, you WON'T) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 not worth decking Not being able to normal summon is a huge risk and i only run 1 equip... and thats premature...as said before Bad card terrible... period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 really' date=' you overrate a BAD card... why? because you can have 4 premature burials, but you must pay 800LP for each one, also it's mandatory to use it because you can't normal summon (wasting a cyber dragon to not use the premature) and the cost is to drop the top card of the deck... what if the card that you send to activate it is... another arms hole?? you lose one extra premature, and if it were a GOOD card like mirror force, dark bribe or the premature itself?? did you see the ruling if you can recover the card discarded to activate the cost? (if this card targets, you WON'T)[/quote']Wow, did I just see you use the 800 LP cost of Premature as a big enough drawback not to run this? News Flash: That 800 LP doesn't matter until you can't pay for it. And did I just see someone say that milling is a bad thing? You are probably one of the players who thinks that Card Trooper is a bad card. More often then not, if you are running a normal deck, you will drop a monster, since most normal decks run at least 20 monsters. And anyway, I'm getting off topic here. This card makes other cards broken, through it's recruitment of Equips. For one, it can also search out Megamorph, which makes many OTKs that much faster. And, really, who would mind Megamorph hitting the Ban list? All it does is help OTKs, pretty much. Another thing that this thing hits, through Premature Burial and a new card, Different Dimensional Revival, which is a Premature for RFP, DMoC. Imagine multiple DMoCs in 1 turn. Do I really have to spell it out for you? It would become unbearable. not worth decking Not being able to normal summon is a huge risk and i only run 1 equip... and thats premature...as said before Bad card terrible... period I just can't understand how people can think that the Normal Summon thing is a big enough drawback to not run this card. The milling, at least, more than enough makes up for it. And the fact that it pulls from either the Grave or the deck is a huge plus. And besides, like I said above, there is more than 1 Equip in the game. This card, alone, makes Equips more playable. Like Phoenix Blade. That card is run in may DDT decks, and this card will hit 3s in all DDT decks, if they do not Ban Premature and DMoC, which they should but may or may not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 not worth decking Not being able to normal summon is a huge risk and i only run 1 equip... and thats premature...as said before Bad card terrible... period I just can't understand how people can think that the Normal Summon thing is a big enough drawback to not run this card. The milling' date=' at least, more than enough makes up for it. And the fact that it pulls from either the Grave or the deck is a huge plus. I guess it will take someone top 8ing at a Jump tourney to get you guys to realize that this card is great.[/quote'] the point is... no one in the top 8 will run this card... there is no point... plus its a waste of deck space A normal Summon is vital... what are you supposed to do if your not protected? That normal summon can summon a monarch! Personally i would rather use Iron Blacksmith Kotetsu over this card anyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 not worth decking Not being able to normal summon is a huge risk and i only run 1 equip... and thats premature...as said before Bad card terrible... period I just can't understand how people can think that the Normal Summon thing is a big enough drawback to not run this card. The milling' date=' at least, more than enough makes up for it. And the fact that it pulls from either the Grave or the deck is a huge plus. I guess it will take someone top 8ing at a Jump tourney to get you guys to realize that this card is great.[/quote'] the point is... no one in the top 8 will run this card... there is no point... plus its a waste of deck space A normal Summon is vital... what are you supposed to do if your not protected? That normal summon can summon a monarch! Personally i would rather use Iron Blacksmith Kotetsu over this card anyday It seems to me that you are focusing too much on the Normal Summon part. Normal Summons aren't the only way to get monsters on the field. And just because you don't have a monster on the field doesn't mean you aren't protected. Gors in the hand, Mirror Force on the field, even Malicious in the Graveyard. I could go on and on. And how can you compare a Flip to a Spell? Entirely different speeds. Kotetsu doesn't even pull from the Graveyard. With Kotetsu, you have to wait at least until your opponent's turn to get the card, and then you have to wait until your next turn to use it. With Arms Hole, you get it from either your Grave or your deck, and you can use it right then and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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