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Why are there republicans and democrats if they are both terruble?


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No.
No.
Stop thinking your opinion is right.

That wasn't a helpful post, either. Let's at least contribute to a per cent of a per cent.

I think it really comes down to people fighting for what they believe is right, if it can even be called fighting. Just a line of my opinion.
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Republicans

Pros: none
Cons: Right-wing nutjobs, Tax cuts for the rich, Change in the 10 Commandments, No gay couples, Tea party/Teabagging, Pimps with a lot of money.


Democrats

Pros: Heathcare, Tax cuts for the poor, Black president, No pointless wars, Common sense.
Cons: Hilary Clinton



It's all about balance... die republicans die.
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Republicans
Pros-Stronger against illegal immigration... Support Big business... Against abortion...
Cons-Dont care to know...
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Well you're entitled to your opinions and a-...
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>Support Big business... Against abortion...
>Support Big business.
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[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1302924407' post='5142010']
There are no Pro's and Con's. It's all opinion.
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Therea re no opinions. Everything is a lie made up by the creatures living under our beds and are planning to dominate the world with an iron fist.

At least that's where this topic seems to be heading.
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[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1302924407' post='5142010']
There are no Pro's and Con's. It's all opinion.
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Yes, he's right.

To Republicans, it's a con that Democrats want to legalize abortion.
To Democrats, it's a con that Republicans do not want to legalize abortion.

But most of the time it's obvious which political party makes the logical argument and which political party is religiously-stimulated and has Bill O'Reilly.

We can't properly gauge anything right now considering we have a Democratic President with a Republican House, so expect nothing to get done.
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[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1302905190' post='5141240']
Socialism>Communism
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Idiot. Socio-Marxism is the way to go.

Communism is in theory supposed to not work, but look at Cuba. Look at Yugoslavia under Tito. Those worked very well, though sadly both are now Capitalist again. A Socio-Marxist society could work extremely well, and what's not to like about total equality? No more racism, sexism, discrimination - all of that would be eradicated overnight.
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[quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1303115254' post='5147969']
Idiot. Socio-Marxism is the way to go.

Communism is in theory supposed to not work, but look at Cuba. Look at Yugoslavia under Tito. Those worked very well, though sadly both are now Capitalist again. A Socio-Marxist society could work extremely well, and what's not to like about total equality? No more racism, sexism, discrimination - all of that would be eradicated overnight.
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Complete equality is wrong. It really is. The common example would be an early drop-out, and a student who's been through College and is continuing tedious hours of more scholarship through University. Those two are getting the same pay. I think it should be separated into several, specific intervals that are absolute, depending on the difficulty to acquire or complete said job. Although that is only an economical point of view. Nor is it so educated, but it has been said, nonetheless.

If everybody's equal, the government would also have it's arms in every little place as to make sure equality is kept. This also means taxes would increase.

Assuming everybody would abide by such bindings forcing equality overnight is completely naive, no? I know you aren't completely naive, though. Extreme idealism can be terribly, negatively reciprocal, too. Just something to possibly ponder over.

Whatever. If we began with a better governmental system in the first place, discussions like these wouldn't have happened, either.
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[quote name='Hinagiku Katsura' timestamp='1303118649' post='5147992']
Complete equality is wrong. It really is. The common example would be an early drop-out, and a student who's been through College and is continuing tedious hours of more scholarship through University. Those two are getting the same pay. I think it should be separated into several, specific intervals that are absolute, depending on the difficulty to acquire or complete said job. Although that is only an economical point of view. Nor is it so educated, but it has been said, nonetheless.

If everybody's equal, the government would also have it's arms in every little place as to make sure equality is kept. This also means taxes would increase.

Assuming everybody would abide by such bindings forcing equality overnight is completely naive, no? I know you aren't completely naive, though. Extreme idealism can be terribly, negatively reciprocal, too. Just something to possibly ponder over.

Whatever. If we began with a better governmental system in the first place, discussions like these wouldn't have happened, either.
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Taxes increasing is a bad thing? I must presume you are American.

Different jobs require different skills, but to punish those who dropped out just because they aren't good enough is sadistic. And why should the government not have control over many things? They are the government after all. What if they followed your principle of only putting their fingers into some economic and social areas? America tried that. They have the worst healthcare system in the world. Obama is trying to change that but the Republican house won't have it. I live in England. We have a National Health Service, and a very good one at that. I'm proud of it. The world envies it. Many of my family have been saved from death by it. One of the greatest minds in history, Stephen Hawking, was allowed to live a good life due to it. We currently have a Right-Wing government, very similar to the Republicans in ideology and in policy. They are trying to privatise our NHS, slowly whittling away at it, weakening it. Without the NHS Dentistry, I would still suffer from a terrible genetic disorder that affects my teeth. I would be wearing false ones if I was lucky, or if I couldn't afford it I would experience pain every time I ate or drank. Without the NHS Surgery, I would still have a painful hernia in my groin. The government puts it's fingers in places so it can help people. The age of Western Dictatorships and Totalitarianism is dead, so arguing that it is Orwellian is pointless.

Extreme equality is another perceived flaw in Communism, but we could fix the working problem quite simply. Give working co-operatives (of course, run by the workers themselves) the opportunity to report people who are not working hard enough. These people can then be offered an alternate job of their choosing. Threaten them with punishment if they don't do the work. They have the choice to work somewhere else, to do a less strenuous job. Better still, they won't be discouraged by the old "some jobs pay less" problem. This ideal means that everyone gets a job they want at no cost to their living standards. I don't want the government (run by the working people, no less) to have absolute control. People still have freedom of speech, freedom of thought. It won't be a single party state. They could vote for a different party at the next election. In the meantime, they can move somewhere else. We get voted in, we make laws. Everyone gets a say.

This isn't to say that this would happen overnight, of course. We'd need at least a couple of years to get everything in check, to flush out capitalism, to arrange the economy to fit the Socio-Marxist ideology. But it is very likely to be a success.
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