El Majishan Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [center][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070416022915/yugioh/images/thumb/a/a3/UpstartGoblinDB1-EN-C-UE.jpg/300px-UpstartGoblinDB1-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] Discuss its usefulness as a stand alone draw engine.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 It is considered that the 1000 LP cost for a draw is not worth it so it is pretty much only run in decks with a non LP-based win condition like Empty Jar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 That argument is only valid since Warning got released. Before life points didn't mean crap if you rushed through you deck to your key cards to gain early control of the game....its still the same today only to a lesser extent. Six Sams use this rather effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1306226137' post='5228628'] It is considered that the 1000 LP cost for a draw is not worth it so it is pretty much only run in decks with a non LP-based win condition like Empty Jar. [/quote] Gigavise and all those one-shot-killers object. I run 3 and it works amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 most Decks can OTK relatively easy these days. playing a 37 card for a few extra LP is nothing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Pretty meh. In a decent format it would be a bad card. This is NOT a replacment for Duality, anyone who does replace it for duality is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Nothing really wrong with it, it just should be run at 3 or not at all. And most people may not have the space for it. I've seen it in a number of swarm/power decks, like Plants, Lightsworn, Blackwings, Samurai, Sin, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1306232549' post='5228716'] playing a 37 card for a few extra LP is nothing.. [/quote] This. I main 3 Upstarts in a lot of decks(With Duality, of course) on DMG and Wc11, and it works wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Only reason I main 3 is because I can't main 3 Dualities... this should be obvious since I go for IRL Decks, not online ones... The card works great for me, its by no means a duality, but it is helpful indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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