Anti-Combat Turtle

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Lore: "When this card is Normal Summoned, change it to Defence Position. When your opponent declares an attack you can re-direct that attack to this monster. If this monster battles a level 5 or higher monster, double this card's original DEF during the damage step only."


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[ragnarok1945]

doubling the def is too much since it's at 1500 already

now, if its def was at 1000 when you said that, then it'd be balanced more

7.8/10

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[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1307087793' post='5250520']
doubling the def is too much since it's at 1500 already

now, if its def was at 1000 when you said that, then it'd be balanced more

7.8/10
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Honestly, I'm not seeing how it's unbalanced. It's designed to stop level 5 and highers. Any level 4 or lower card can still hit it, and its DEF is only 1500.

[Stan Alda]

[quote name='Hounds of Anubis' timestamp='1307101445' post='5250789']
Honestly, I'm not seeing how it's unbalanced. It's designed to stop level 5 and highers. Any level 4 or lower card can still hit it, and its DEF is only 1500.
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Agreed. 2000 DEF against a Level 5 or higher doesn't sound strong enough. However, its current (total) 3000 DEF is too high; I'd knock its original DEF down to 1300-1400. 2600-2800 (total) DEF is probably more realistic. Had it been made a few months ago, it would have done very well in my "Mook Melee" contest (less than 1500 ATK/DEF, Level 4 or lower); it has good pic, and it makes a good counter to those stupid beatsticks. I'll give it a 7.75/10 until its DEF is fixed; after that, I'll give it a 10/10.

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[quote name='En Almhjbat Wahd' timestamp='1307106271' post='5250844']
Agreed. 2000 DEF against a Level 5 or higher doesn't sound strong enough. However, its current (total) 3000 DEF is too high; I'd knock its original DEF down to 1300-1400. 2600-2800 (total) DEF is probably more realistic. Had it been made a few months ago, it would have done very well in my "Mook Melee" contest (less than 1500 ATK/DEF, Level 4 or lower); it has good pic, and it makes a good counter to those stupid beatsticks. I'll give it a 7.75/10 until its DEF is fixed; after that, I'll give it a 10/10.
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I think I'd lower it at most to 1400, but then what's the point? Virtually nothing in the metagame is affected by the defence drop, so there isn't really a point. If there were a more specific reason, then I'd be happy to change it, but from what I can see there isn't any difference. 1500 DEF also makes it ever so slightly less killable by level 4s, which I see as somewhat beneficial.

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[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1307087793' post='5250520']
doubling the def is too much since it's at 1500 already

now, if its def was at 1000 when you said that, then it'd be balanced more

7.8/10
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When the attack of a level 5 or higher monster is re-directed, this card doesn't get its bonus. That's why I think this card is underpowered.

If it should be that it still gets its bonus, the effect would have (or should have) been like this:
When this card [u]battles[/u] a Level 5 or higher monster, double this card's DEF during the Damage Step only.

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[quote name='TCG warrior' timestamp='1307109836' post='5250917']
When the attack of a level 5 or higher monster is re-directed, this card doesn't get its bonus. That's why I think this card is underpowered.

If it should be that it still gets its bonus, the effect would have (or should have) been like this:
When this card [u]battles[/u] a Level 5 or higher monster, double this card's DEF during the Damage Step only.
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Right, I overlooked that part. Thanks for the fix, I'll implement it now.

[SirtyStan]

Alright. Looks like a good anti-meta card (almost)... Because it can be used in some meta decks, like Exodia.

Anyways, I love turtles, I love the picture, heck, I like everything about this card.

9.6/10.

[Sleepy]

Its pretty funny as a card. I don't see what would make it overpowered at all.

Now we need some kind of Field Spell Card that increases the Level and ATK of all monsters your opponent controls (that way we can make a Deck around this card and Gora Turtle =P
The idea of a Turtle defending properly is good. It at the very least caught my attention xD

[b]If anything, I'd even dare add protection from effect targeting to it on top of the protection from attack targeting it already has for the fun of it, but that might really be too much this time.... or maybe not.. (would actually need playtesting but probably wouldn't break it xD )[/b]
.____." ignore the bolded ^-^"

~Card is good as is~

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[quote name='sleepy' timestamp='1307159791' post='5252913']
Its pretty funny as a card. I don't see what would make it overpowered at all.

Now we need some kind of Field Spell Card that increases the Level and ATK of all monsters your opponent controls (that way we can make a Deck around this card and Gora Turtle =P
The idea of a Turtle defending properly is good. It at the very least caught my attention xD

[b]If anything, I'd even dare add protection from effect targeting to it on top of the protection from attack targeting it already has for the fun of it, but that might really be too much this time.... or maybe not.. (would actually need playtesting but probably wouldn't break it xD )[/b]
.____." ignore the bolded ^-^"

~Card is good as is~
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Honestly, I like the idea of the Field Spell. That'd be pretty hilarious as a lock-down.

I think not being destroyed by effect targeting might be a tad overdoing it, no matter how awesome it'd be, but it'd still be pretty interesting. x3