Tentacruel Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Took a gun safety course earlier... Fired a few rounds with a 9MM. Holy crap is that thing loud. Now, I've always been pro-2nd amendment and all that jazz, but I don't think I'll ever own a gun other than for collecting purposes. They're too scary... D: Sooo... discuss guns and how you feel about civilian use of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I'd be pro-2nd amendment if people weren't f***ing idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='• Starrk •' timestamp='1307068887' post='5250062'] I'd be pro-2nd amendment if people weren't f***ing idiots. [/quote] Unfortunately this is true... =/ Still, +1 for making me lol. What do you think of widespread promotion of safety training involving firearms, so the general public can be better taught how to handle a gun and how to respect a gun as a very dangerous tool? (Even if they don't actually plan on owning one.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I want a gun. Not for any reason in particular, and in fact, now that I think about it, it wouldn't really help the public image I have. Idiots don't need guns. Republicans don't need guns. Especially Republican idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu@ke Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I want a shotgun for the impending zombie apocalypse...yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yang Xiao-Long Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I have a Remington 870 shotgun, semi-automatic AR-15 in .223, a Mark III Ruger, a .22 LR, and a Nagant. I also happen to have an EOtech for my AR-15. ...I like guns. And a 9MM is nothing; try shooting a 3-inch buckshot from a Taurus Judge (Shotshell in a handgun). Back on topic, I would want to see more law-abiding citizens armed; criminals don't care about the laws anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Felix Culpa' timestamp='1307076661' post='5250313'] I want a gun. Not for any reason in particular, and in fact, now that I think about it, it wouldn't really help the public image I have. Idiots don't need guns. Republicans don't need guns. Especially Republican idiots. [/quote] That's kinda prejudiced. lol! I've never heard of any shooting related to the active party's political affiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Corgi Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I fired an old gun some months ago. I had my eye pressed against the sight. Not a good idea, the recoil was worse that I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I'm pro 2nd Amendmant. . . .for myself. Cuz Lord only knows the type of DUMB MOFOS who walk around parading guns as though it was meant to be a game. It's still dangerous, freakin' idiots. But the only time I've used any weapon I personally own, was hunting. Hunting knives, hunting rifle, but I still own that big ass hand cannon my pops gave to me. Doubt I'll ever need it, but it's there for emergencies, and only I know where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Felix Culpa' timestamp='1307076661' post='5250313'] I want a gun. Not for any reason in particular, and in fact, now that I think about it, it wouldn't really help the public image I have. Idiots don't need guns. Republicans don't need guns. Especially Republican idiots. [/quote] Rpublican idiots is a redudant phrase. OT: I have never fired a gun, and probably will never fire a gun. I will never hunt either, I don't like the idea of directly killing harmless animals (though thats kind of hypocriticle because I love meat, but hey, if its already dead, might as well put it to use), as for the actual topic at hand with guns, the 2nd ammendment has been slaughtered and skewed as to what it actually means, in fact, I don't know the whole story about it, but the ability for people to just be able to carry guns with them wherever is stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womi Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I appreciate how you're not showing off like "guyz i freded a gun an shott sombods hed im kool nwo kthksbaye". Way to go and congrats to your experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I dislike guns, without guns people would still find a way to kill each other. I worry that civilians being allowed to own them just encourages their use against other people, and not always in self defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='• Starrk •' timestamp='1307068887' post='5250062'] I'd be pro-2nd amendment if people weren't f***ing idiots. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 When you fire a gun for the first time, that sensation, the urge to kill, or at least some addiction, has been created inside of you... But I hope you at least enjoyed using your gun in a fun kind of way than kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [i]Rpublican idiots is a redudant phrase.[/i] First of all, the phrase wasn't "Rpublican idiots", and second of all, it was not redundancy. Redundancy, in the general opinion of most people who aren't idiots, would be "right-wing idiots", or "Republican extremist idiots". Labeling all Republicans as pure, downright idiots is simply false, especially when you have some (although few) more moderate Republicans. I am heavily pro-gun control, to be quite honest, and I don't believe American citizens need guns, nor are we smart enough to be deserving of the right to own them. Unless someone wants to make a plan where every person applying for any sort of gun license is triple-quadruple background checked (meaning twelve times (even though it's a heavy exaggeration)), guns will fall into the wrong hands. The problem of boot-legged guns still exists, but I feel like fixing it is a ton easier than fixing the drug trade between countries. Or just allow everyone to own a gun but keep ammunition so expensive for everyday consumers to buy that only rich people will be able to afford it. Seems kind of biased, but it's fair considering the majority of criminals don't have a large amount of money until after they start committing crimes, and they kind of need a loaded gun to commit a major crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1307136664' post='5251812'] [i]Rpublican idiots is a redudant phrase.[/i] First of all, the phrase wasn't "Rpublican idiots", and second of all, it was not redundancy. Redundancy, in the general opinion of most people who aren't idiots, would be "right-wing idiots", or "Republican extremist idiots". Labeling all Republicans as pure, downright idiots is simply false, especially when you have some (although few) more moderate Republicans. I am heavily pro-gun control, to be quite honest, and I don't believe American citizens need guns, nor are we smart enough to be deserving of the right to own them. Unless someone wants to make a plan where every person applying for any sort of gun license is triple-quadruple background checked (meaning twelve times (even though it's a heavy exaggeration)), guns will fall into the wrong hands. The problem of boot-legged guns still exists, but I feel like fixing it is a ton easier than fixing the drug trade between countries. Or just allow everyone to own a gun but keep ammunition so expensive for everyday consumers to buy that only rich people will be able to afford it. Seems kind of biased, but it's fair considering the majority of criminals don't have a large amount of money until after they start committing crimes, and they kind of need a loaded gun to commit a major crime. [/quote] I completely agree with this. Which, in itself, is quite a redundant statement. But so is the rest of this site, so I resume my venture. Is the United States in a left or right-wing government at the moment? I don't really pay attention to many of America's political happenings, but I've heard something about Socialism. I'm not really sure, though. I heard people causing slander by titling Obama as a Socialist. It would only be slanderous in a right-wing group, probably. Then again, I have no interest in any right-wing government. I find it useless that people would stick to traditional values and such when absolute acceptance is clearly much superior. About the guns... Well, I've already had my opinion in brief in another topic. There's no point to giving firearms to anybody but the military and police force. In a country with over three-hundred thirty million people, it is inevitable that a portion of the people who obtain a gun are corrupt or eventually lead themselves to be. In addition, only giving weapons to security-based branches seems much, much better than allowing citizens the rights to a gun. Not to strike fear into the hearts of millions, but because it would give criminals a more ubiquitious cynicysm. They wouldn't be able to hold hostages nor start hold ups, for example, as easily. Plus, a simple mistake from an innocent idiot could lead to the death of somebody. Or a child could reach said idiot's gun and do something wrong with it. Such slim chances, but they are heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazeon Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I want a sniper rifle. Or any semi-automatic weapon, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1307136664' post='5251812'] I am heavily pro-gun control, to be quite honest, and I don't believe American citizens need guns, nor are we smart enough to be deserving of the right to own them. Unless someone wants to make a plan where every person applying for any sort of gun license is triple-quadruple background checked (meaning twelve times (even though it's a heavy exaggeration)), guns will fall into the wrong hands. The problem of boot-legged guns still exists, but I feel like fixing it is a ton easier than fixing the drug trade between countries. Or just allow everyone to own a gun but keep ammunition so expensive for everyday consumers to buy that only rich people will be able to afford it. Seems kind of biased, but it's fair considering the majority of criminals don't have a large amount of money until after they start committing crimes, and they kind of need a loaded gun to commit a major crime. [/quote] Ignorant much? Almost always, shootings occur when someone who does not legally own the firearm gets a hold of it. Ironically, it's almost never the stereotypical Republican gun-crazy people that end up murdering or accidentally shooting people. It's usually people who either A) don't know how to handle a gun or are crazy or emotionally distressed. There's also criminals, but they could just as well use knives. And you act as if stealing ammo and importing it from other countries won't be an issue. I mean, we do such a great job stopping pot from getting sold around don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womi Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 ADHD is too cool for B). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 How could I miss that.... lol... Also, I have to add one thing. If we were to actually try and take the firearms from the general public, it would start a f***ing war. People [b]would[/b] retaliate, and the causalities would be immeasurable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 [i]Ignorant much? Almost always, shootings occur when someone who does not legally own the firearm gets a hold of it. Ironically, it's almost never the stereotypical Republican gun-crazy people that end up murdering or accidentally shooting people. It's usually people who either A) don't know how to handle a gun or are crazy or emotionally distressed. There's also criminals, but they could just as well use knives. And you act as if stealing ammo and importing it from other countries won't be an issue. I mean, we do such a great job stopping pot from getting sold around don't we? [/i] Yeah, no s[b][/b]hit shootings occur with illegal firearms. It doesn't matter; reducing the legality of guns will lower deaths by shooting, because once we make them illegal we can begin to get rid of the illegal imports. More marijuana is imported into America than firearms, and fortunately firearms a lot easier to stop because you can't swallow a firearm and then take a dump later to sell it. Firearms are fairly tough to smuggle into a country like America, so we can tackle the problem of guns already in the country whereas with marijuana, the smuggling rate surpasses whatever authorities can get rid of in a year. If you don't know how to handle a gun that means either the facility that provided a gun did not provide the person with a training course or did not thoroughly question the person, and people who don't know how to handle guns aren't accidentally going to kill someone when they shouldn't be aiming at people in the first place. If someone is emotionally distressed, they'd much rather kill themselves than other. Remember the shooting of the Arizona congresswoman? Even with his previous criminal record, I'm fairly sure it has been proven that the gun he was using was bought at a store, not illegally imported. That isn't to say that other people couldn't have bought a gun for him, but the shooting could have been stopped or greatly hindered or delayed by just banning guns altogether. There is no point to having a gun except for hunting, and I'm sure a rule can be made where hunting grounds use a rental service for guns. Unless you mandate a triple-quadruple (or did I say quadruple-triple?) background check, a gun safety course, and some other precautionary programs, guns should not be allowed in American society. You are calling me ignorant when you are too ignorant to realize that guns are a general hindrance to society and nobody needs to own one. It's not a necessity in society, and it's funny how the majority of the people who advocate for the Second Amendment live in the deep south or mid-West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of All Spades Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I have friends that laugh about shooting guns and shooting people with headshots and firing AK-47s. I have friends who have shot a gun at least once or regularly. There has never been a case where they were two of the same people. My buddy Matt goes to a Gun Range at his camp. He fires semi-automatics at 30 meters away from paper targets. He is very mature about it; assume the position, aim, fire, repeat until reload. He leaves the gun at camp and goes home at the en of the day. Matt's 15, and I live in Rhode Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 [i]There has never been a case where they were two of the same people.[/i] That's well and good, but I'm under the impression that your friends are minors and may not have access to guns. I don't care where you live or how mature your friend is; I never said that all people who own a gun live in Texas, and I never said that all people were immature about owning a gun. Who's to say that those people talking about AK-47s won't ever go out and buy a gun when they are old enough to not need parental consent? If you want me to be blatantly honest, I would not trust 99% of the American population with any sort of firearm, including myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Guns don't kill people. Small pieces of metal traveling at a high velocity after being propelled by small, contained explosions kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='Luna Lovegood' timestamp='1307417466' post='5262720'] Guns don't kill people. Small pieces of metal traveling at a high velocity after being propelled by small, contained explosions kill people. [/quote] Eh, if you want to play that route you could say that it's the blood loss that kills people, or you could even more specific and give a detailed explanation on how and why the body stops working. But still, this made me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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