Blake Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='Vough' timestamp='1309054155' post='5310968'] It will cause a lot of bad marriages, because on the internet, you can always hide who you are, but in real life, you can't. (For the same extent, atleast.) [/quote] Hence why a good percentage of marriages that last are people that met online? Seriously, it's not about what you accept or not, people. Who thinks they are cool on the internet? Owait... Somehow, there are those that think they are. Point being, I am not in a relationship because I think it's cool, but because I care about the other person, and they care back. Hell, we kept the relationship a secret for a while, due to it being between us, and because of how people react to it. It wasn't something that needed to be public, so it wasn't. Close friends knew, but that was it. Only became public when there was no reason to keep it tucked away. As for ADHD, I couldn't care less what society approves of or doesn't approve of. This is not any form of rebellion. I disagree with society on a lot of points, but you don't see me doing the opposite of them to rebel. I just don't give a damn what they think. I'm in this for the other person and myself. The only two whose opinions on the matter truly count. I care about her, and she cares about me, and it makes us happy. It's not immoral as one person said, and then was unable to back it up. So we can't see each other right now... Okay? We can meet up IRL later. What relationship isn't about trust anyways? It's just a different kind of trust that eventually becomes the regular kind, if given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1309054987' post='5311006'] Hence why a good percentage of marriages that last are people that met online? Seriously, it's not about what you accept or not, people. Who thinks they are cool on the internet? Owait... Somehow, there are those that think they are. Point being, I am not in a relationship because I think it's cool, but because I care about the other person, and they care back. Hell, we kept the relationship a secret for a while, due to it being between us, and because of how people react to it. It wasn't something that needed to be public, so it wasn't. Close friends knew, but that was it. Only became public when there was no reason to keep it tucked away. As for ADHD, I couldn't care less what society approves of or doesn't approve of. This is not any form of rebellion. I disagree with society on a lot of points, but you don't see me doing the opposite of them to rebel. I just don't give a damn what they think. I'm in this for the other person and myself. The only two whose opinions on the matter truly count. I care about her, and she cares about me, and it makes us happy. It's not immoral as one person said, and then was unable to back it up. So we can't see each other right now... Okay? We can meet up IRL later. What relationship isn't about trust anyways? It's just a different kind of trust that eventually becomes the regular kind, if given time. [/quote] It's mildly unhealthy, because you can begin a real relationship by just typing. Then once you meet IRL, you have nothing to talk about or feel uncomfortable around him/her. Then, once you're on the internet again, you just keep typing. It's unhealthy to "love" someone you don't or barely know in real life. ADHD? I never mentioned that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 People love in different ways. Some like to spend time with others, some like to receive gifts, some to have people do things for them, some to be complimented, and others to be touched and to touch. Those who thrive on time and/or compliments can easily have a relationship online, and many of those relationships are successful, if they reach IRL. ADHD Guitar. The whole post was not to you, just the first 2 lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='Vough' timestamp='1309055460' post='5311022'] It's mildly unhealthy, because you can begin a real relationship by just typing. Then once you meet IRL, you have nothing to talk about or feel uncomfortable around him/her. Then, once you're on the internet again, you just keep typing. It's unhealthy to "love" someone you don't or barely know in real life. ADHD? I never mentioned that. [/quote] If you have nothing to talk about irl, then you aren't really in much of a relationship are you? And we aren't talking about "love", we're talking about love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1309058181' post='5311129'] If you have nothing to talk about irl, then you aren't really in much of a relationship are you? And we aren't talking about "love", we're talking about love. [/quote] OIC @Ravenous Yes, but that doesn't change the difficulties and unhealthiness of it. You can still recieve compliments and talk IRL. Compliments are much easier to give when you don't know someone. There's a difference between knowing someone beforehand and chatting with them online, and not having met someone you're flirting with in a chat room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 So we aren't talkibng about love... were talking about love... explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='~N~' timestamp='1309059055' post='5311158'] So we aren't talkibng about love... were talking about love... explain? [/quote] Love not "Love". @Vough: Well, some people aren't exactly social butterflies, like myself. I've dated a girl IRL, my best friend to be exact. But I am closer to the girl I am dating now, because I spend more time with her. I've seen her pic, and I trust her. It's unhealthy by your standards. Tell me why sites like eHarmony are still around, if it's all bogus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [i]most of this thread says the opposite[/i] [i]I couldn't care less what society approves of or doesn't approve of[/i] So one one hand, you are saying that the majority should not dictate the lives of the minority, and yet you contradicted yourself earlier by overturning the statement of [/thread] using the logic that the majority of this thread is fine with internet relationships. You can't take the best of both sides; pick an argument and stick with it. If you don't care what society thinks, why do you care what the majority of a thread on a forum thinks? Just because one supports your argument and one doesn't? [i]So we can't see each other right now... Okay? We can meet up IRL later.[/i] There is a difference between dating over the internet for three months and meeting in real life, and dating for one and a half or two years and then meeting in real life. A lack of personal contact is not healthy for a relationship. I am not implying online relationships do not last, I am saying that I don't understand how one can properly express emotions through text, voice, and video. Sure, we're in a world where technology is moving pretty quickly, but notice how we have never [i]eliminated[/i] human-to-human contact. It's necessarily for a relationship, and the longer you put it off, the worse the relationship is going to turn out. [i]thrive on time and/or compliments can easily have a relationship online[/i] I love how you use the word easily to make it seem as if having a relationship online is an easy thing to do. A lack of human contact leads to trust issues, moreso than your normal high school boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, leads to communication issues, et cetera. Who wants to go through all of that when you can just wait until college when you have guaranteed daily and weekly contact with thousands of other students? [i]And we aren't talking about "love", we're talking about love. [/i] YAY! SUBJECTIVE PHRASES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Whats the differance between love and "Love" I can understand the basic differance, but which is which? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='~N~' timestamp='1309059055' post='5311158'] So we aren't talkibng about love... were talking about love... explain? [/quote] He had put love in quotations, so I assumed he meant a love that isn't actually love. You know what I'm saying? And Vough, compliments can also be unrealistic while online. I can say I love your shirt, but as far as I know you're whering a shirt with one of my least favorite cartoon characters. And if you gave me a pic of you that wasn't actually you, then I'm not complimenting you, I'm complimenting the person in the pic, and once I find our your lying about who you are, then we may just stop talking all-together. That's how it would go for me at least, and if you were a chick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1309059245' post='5311170'] Love not "Love". @Vough: Well, some people aren't exactly social butterflies, like myself. I've dated a girl IRL, my best friend to be exact. But I am closer to the girl I am dating now, because I spend more time with her. I've seen her pic, and I trust her. It's unhealthy by your standards. Tell me why sites like eHarmony are still around, if it's all bogus. [/quote] Doesn't eHarmony sets you up with someone by looking for a match in personality (which is a flawed formula to me, but whatever) The way you're describing it, you just pop on a chat room to talk. You don't see her lips move, her body language, you don't hear her voice. That's why. Yes, communication is vital, but you can't go places. All you do is type words. For all she knows, you could be the most sincere person she knows, but you could lie every word to her, and vice versa, and neither of you would know. Pics can be fake, but that's your choice. It's unhealthy to trust someone you've never been around. I would trust some friends on PSN to be good teammates, but I would trust them the way I trust my girlfriend, my mother, my brother, etc. Forming trust bonds to someone you've never met and could barely know can be very dangerous, and it isn't right. You can't "love" someone you've never met. It just doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa Kirisame-ze Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 I don't exactly like them either because for the most part, internet relationships are silly and worthless. The ones I've seen (through YCM and other forums) are of people who don't even contact each other by phone or webcam; they just type to each other. And I'm just sitting over here like... okay, you've never seen a picture of each other, heard each other's voice, and you can safely call that a relationship? I do support, however, the internet relationships who do call each other and make plans to meet up in the future. I have hope that they can maintain a steady relationship despite the distance because of the constant communication and seeing each other over video calls and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tin Trooper Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='~N~' timestamp='1309026345' post='5310009'] ITS A FANTASY GAME, ITS A GAME THAT PEOPLE WASTE 3-40% OF THERE LIFE ON, AND PEOPLE ARANGE MARIGES THROUGH IT!? *Dies from mind f**** [/quote] Marriages*. There's also been a funeral on WoW. Just Saiyan. OT: Considering every reciprocal romantic interest I know is from another country, and therefore, has to be talked to via the Internet, an Internet relationship isn't all bad. It just doesn't give the satisfaction of meeting someone you like in real life; you're meeting someone you like through a monitor. And of course, there's a great deal of trust involved; but I'm fairly sure a relationship is built upon that. And I'm guessing Internet relationships are no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Duelist Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 The key to starting a relationship lies in relating interests. Otherwise, if you have nothing in common, there is no way you can have chemistry, no way to build up that connection, no way to do more than pass each other by. In that regard, and only that regard, an internet relationship has merits. Think about it, forget the whole picture thing, or compliments thing, or even the information about each person, since its a well known fact that any of those could be lies. It comes down to interests. For example, as I stated previously, I met my fiance on a YuGiOh RP forum. Right there, right off the bat, we have at least two interests: Online Roleplaying, and Yugioh, since if we didn't like either of those, why would we have been on a site like that? Now, take the generally accepted (and apparently more moral) situation of meeting someone for the first time, like at a coffee shop. Now, just based on location, can you lists the interests that you would have in common? One could suggest coffee, but what if that girl, or maybe yourself, had gone there for something else? What if you met someone at a party, what interests can you say you share? As a second point, the advantage to chat or typing instead of face to face is simply the lack of distractions from the conversation. How many times have you talked to an attractive woman(or man) and found your mind wandering over her/his body? What if you were drinking? Its a lot harder to keep up a conversation. Don't get me wrong, there must be a physical/intimate part of any relationship, and let's face it, if you have never embraced the other person, then you are not in a relationship. Its just you two flirting. However the one distinct advantage the Internet has with STARTING a relationship is that you can easily see how well a relationship can actually work before you meet the person, since there are not very many people who would lie throughout a conversation. Important points that specify them probably, but not every subject. You would be able to see how well you can communicate with the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Actually, saying that you need to see a picture of the person or hear their voice is implying that those things matter which is superficial and shallow. Check and mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1309092304' post='5311614'] Actually, saying that you need to see a picture of the person or hear their voice is implying that those things matter which is superficial and shallow. Check and mate. [/quote] Learn that all people, if not nigh all, are superficial. It isn't check and mate if you finally kill a pawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1309092304' post='5311614'] Actually, saying that you need to see a picture of the person or hear their voice is implying that those things matter which is superficial and shallow. Check and mate. [/quote] Well then I am proud of being superficial and shallow... Sorry but I go for personality and looks... Those who look only for looks are egotisticle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1309092304' post='5311614'] Actually, saying that you need to see a picture of the person or hear their voice is implying that those things matter which is superficial and shallow. Check and mate. [/quote] So you think that appearance doesn't matter ONE bit? Not even a little? So you would date the worlds ugliest, most horrifying girl, with a voice so terrefying that it would make you cringe every time she spoke, if she had a good personality? I won't belive you if you say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='~N~' timestamp='1309107501' post='5312064'] So you think that appearance doesn't matter ONE bit? Not even a little? So you would date the worlds ugliest, most horrifying girl, with a voice so terrefying that it would make you cringe every time she spoke, if she had a good personality? I won't belive you if you say yes. [/quote] Everyone is different. One boy in my school dated the largest girl in our school with the worst looking feet and thighs i've ever seen and he still loves her. She's the worst singer i've known and you can see the fatty veins from under her skin. He still likes her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 I find that hard to belive [color="#FFFFFF"]Especially coming from you Jaden[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='~N~' timestamp='1309120894' post='5312582'] I find that hard to belive [b][color="#FFFFFF"]Especially coming from you Jaden[/color][/b] [/quote] lol, well, I think the guy is a chubby chaser, idk. Even fat girls get guys though, you need to realize that. There are weird things that people are attracted to. Masochism is a good example. My fiance enjoys me hurting him time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 There's a difference between bad looks and taking bad care of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Alright, I understand that, but I still think that appearance has to matter at least a little to everyone, you said it yourself, he's probably attracted to chubby people, meaning he thinks chubby people look attractive, meaning that the apperance did matter, albiet if only a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='~N~' timestamp='1309121473' post='5312613'] Alright, I understand that, but I still think that appearance has to matter at least a little to everyone, you said it yourself, he's probably attracted to chubby people, meaning he thinks chubby people look attractive, meaning that the apperance did matter, albiet if only a little. [/quote] If he is then it should be something else other than weight. Or can guys just be attracted to one thing and that's good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerlinX Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 E-Harmony FTW!!! No internet relationships generally are stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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