M.B X Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1309455876' post='5322515'] Because putting a single card in a deck to counter another single card is tthe best idea ever. [/quote] It doesn't just counter Tengu alone... Here is a list of its most powerful enemies: 1. Glads. 2. Assaults. 3. All the Searchers. 4. Worm Queen. 5. Morph. Celfon. 6. Chaos-End Master. 7. [b]Lonefire Blossom[/b]. Need I say moar!!? Your argument is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 No you need not. It's already obvious you have no idea what you are talkign about. As for Lonefire + Agony,I have question. Would that be Lonefire under Debris rulin or Lonefire under skill Drain 'Cause, I think it's Skill Drain, but I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='M.B X' timestamp='1309456289' post='5322532'] It doesn't just counter Tengu alone... Here is a list of its most powerful enemies: 1. Glads. [b]Single Deck type[/b] 2. Assaults. [b]How long has it been since we've seen a good Assault deck?[/b] 3. All the Searchers. [b]You still get the monster and can quick Synchro[/b] 4. Worm Queen. [b]Because you obviously haven't won yet[/b] 5. Morph. Celfon. [b]Synchro[/b] 6. Chaos-End Master. 7. [b]Lonefire Blossom[/b]. [b][i]As long as it remains face-up on the field[/i][/b] Need I say moar!!? Your argument is invalid. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 best topic on ycm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='M.B X' timestamp='1309455534' post='5322501'] [img]http://fakeposters.com.s3.amazonaws.com/results/2011/07/01/a84j0k22j4.jpg[/img] [/quote] wut? Corridor of Agony has no effect on Reborn Tengu outside of declaring Attacks. Still wont stop the field presence and synchro shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1309456424' post='5322538'] No you need not. It's already obvious you have no idea what you are talkign about. As for Lonefire + Agony,I have question. Would that be Lonefire under Debris rulin or Lonefire under skill Drain 'Cause, I think it's Skill Drain, but I am not sure. [/quote] [quote]Monsters that were Special Summoned from the Main Deck [b]cannot activate their effects[/b], their effects are negated, and they cannot declare an attack, as long as they remain face-up on the field.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote] Monsters that were Special Summoned from the Main Deck cannot activate their effects, their effects are negated, and they cannot declare an attack, [size=7][b]as long as they remain face-up on the field.[/b][/size] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 chain destruction might help to get rid of the other 2 copies wherever they may be - but trollnami knew exactly what they were doing when they released this card. Kevin actually addressed some of the concerns about this card recently. [quote]Cards do not get "hit" because they are popular. Cards get "hit" because they cause a problem, or limit deck diversity. Tengu is an extremely versatile card that goes in a number of decks. It's a facilitator card, not an end-game strategy. We should probably stop referring to 'tengu decks' since it's really a misnomer. Adding Tengu to your deck doesn't make it a 'tengu deck' any more than adding Mirror Force makes it a '[url="http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/yugioh_single_card.asp?cn=Mirror%20Force&partner=POJO"]Mirror Force[/url] deck'. Tengu is also easy to get and was handed out for free at the sneak peeks. It's a powerful, versatile, easy-to-get card. The kind of thing that everybody is always begging us to create. If people are complaining about it, I'm not sure what to say.[/quote] reading that is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard - I would complain - but Kevin Tewart wouldn't know what to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='HaouJudai' timestamp='1309457242' post='5322582'] chain destruction might help to get rid of the other 2 copies wherever they may be - but trollnami knew exactly what they were doing when they released this card. Kevin actually addressed some of the concerns about this card recently. reading that is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard - I would complain - but Kevin Tewart wouldn't know what to say about that. [/quote] http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/254278-reborn-tengu/page__view__findpost__p__5305523 check it bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Miror B, If Lonefire Blossom cannot activate its effect because it was Special Summoned from the Deck, then it cannot Tribute itself so that its "no longer on the field." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote]Card is good, NOT great![/quote] worst post here in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1309457359' post='5322591'] Miror B, If Lonefire Blossom cannot activate its effect because it was Special Summoned from the Deck, then it cannot Tribute itself so that its "no longer on the field." [/quote] Exactly. Thank you. ~Peace~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1309457419' post='5322594'] worst post here in a while [/quote] this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='M.B X' timestamp='1309457508' post='5322599'] Exactly. Thank you. ~Peace~ [/quote] Okay then, but it just means you can't bring out a second lonefire before you start your synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 That's a good card but I would worry about how narrow it is and the fact it's a sitting duck. It's been out for awhile and it's done nothing to the GBs who I guess it was designed to stop. I don't know that my idea is any better - chain destruction sends the other copies to the yard which some decks love a stuffed yard. My idea is chainable however. It does not get rid of the copy that is on the field. *edit* there were several other posts after I made this - I'm referring to corridor of agony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Guys, you can Tribute Loneire under skill Drain, while it is negated. ._. Lonefire can still tribute itself, just like Stardust/Tytannial/w/e, because this works like Skill Drain, not Debris. So, onefire works under Corridor. Argumet invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 you can't go double lonefire tho :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1309458006' post='5322631'] Guys, you can Tribute Loneire under skill Drain, while it is negated. ._. Lonefire can still tribute itself, just like Stardust/Tytannial/w/e, because this works like Skill Drain, not Debris. So, onefire works under Corridor. Argumet invalid. [/quote] Read up above, they already shot us down because it says "cannot be activated" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 you can still go single tho, which is what good players do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='marcher boyz' timestamp='1309458467' post='5322658'] you can still go single tho, which is what good players do [/quote] I said that already anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 1. Costs are paid before the activation of a card, not after. I thought costs couldn't be negated? I mean,you can still tribute Lonfire under Debrs, it just won't search a new plant, and is stupid move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 ooooooooooooooooooooooooh Also, I dislike how this makes D.D. Warrior Lady unviable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1309458766' post='5322671'] 1. Costs are paid before the activation of a card, not after. I thought costs couldn't be negated? I mean,you can still tribute Lonfire under Debrs, it just won't search a new plant, and is stupid move. [/quote] Costs are paid before resolution. Debris doesn't say "It cannot activate it's effect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I hat Ruings sematics, so, so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Exa Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 If Yata Garasu and Chaos Emperor Dragon - Enyoy of the End somehow had a baby, this would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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