Resident Fascist Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 They are looking to become one of the best. We're getting Ponder,Some Pot Of Greed-Esque card, Jace's Archivist, Another Jace etc. Cool story for me because Blue is my main colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I don't think you understand how lands and mana works... BUT...You are right Blue is THE COLOR of M12...XD reasong Why I'm so expactating on what the blue intro pack will bring...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1309994651' post='5333186'] I don't think you understand how lands and mana works... [/quote] Explain more, I only started today... Let me guess, I have to have the mana in my hand to use Manalith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｌａｚｉｎｇ ＭＡＲＳ' timestamp='1309995395' post='5333211'] Explain more, I only started today... Let me guess, I have to have the mana in my hand to use Manalith? [/quote] well...Oh...I know... You should read: http://www.wizards.com/magic/comprules/MagicCompRules_20110617.pdf XD 1.06 is the explanation of how mana works...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1309997254' post='5333323'] well...Oh...I know... You should read: http://www.wizards.com/magic/comprules/MagicCompRules_20110617.pdf XD 1.06 is the explanation of how mana works...XD [/quote] [quote]When an effect produces mana, that mana goes into a player’s mana pool. From there, it can be used to pay costs immediately, or it can stay in the player’s mana pool.[/quote] So... Does the card go to the mana pool, do I take one from my deck? What do I do in the case of a card like Manalith? I know... I suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｌａｚｉｎｇ ＭＡＲＳ' timestamp='1309997426' post='5333339'] So... Does the card go to the mana pool, do I take one from my deck? What do I do in the case of a card like Manalith? I know... I suck. [/quote] the mana pool is an imaginary place... and Mana =/= a Land Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1309997734' post='5333360'] the mana pool is an imaginary place... and Mana =/= a Land Card [/quote] So... I use a proxy card for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｌａｚｉｎｇ ＭＡＲＳ' timestamp='1309997808' post='5333366'] So... I use a proxy card for it? [/quote] Not really...what you do...is..basicly show your opponent the card you are planning to play...tap the correct amount of untapped lands you control(or mana producing permanents) and there...you put the card into play... I'll try to find a video explaining it better for you. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1309998324' post='5333407'] Not really...what you do...is..basicly show your opponent the card you are planning to play...tap the correct amount of untapped lands you control(or mana producing permanents) and there...you put the card into play... I'll try to find a video explaining it better for you. XD [/quote] I get it... So... I need to revise my Big Blue Deck... Glacial Fortress doesn't work like I thought it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｌａｚｉｎｇ ＭＡＲＳ' timestamp='1309998422' post='5333413'] I get it... So... I need to revise my Big Blue Deck... Glacial Fortress doesn't work like I thought it did. [/quote] Not if you are running monocolor Deck..Dual lands works better in 2/3 color Decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Blue took a hit with Jace getting banned, but M12 has a decent pool for them. Still, it's a lot weaker but Ponder and Mana Leak coming back is very helpful for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1310002557' post='5333629'] Blue took a hit with Jace getting banned, but M12 has a decent pool for them. Still, it's a lot weaker but Ponder and Mana Leak coming back is very helpful for them. [/quote] Fun Fact: The Day that I learnt from Jace's Banning was the same day I learnt that Venser Died in Phyrexia's History...and Being Venser one of my favorite neo-Walkers I couldn't help but to yell: WHY DID VENSER HAVE TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO DIE!...Kill that Damn JACE!...and Bang he was banned So it was a happy but sad day... Blue is just a little weaker than it was before...but White is there to back it up...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1310003339' post='5333665'] Fun Fact: The Day that I learnt from Jace's Banning was the same day I learnt that Venser Died in Phyrexia's History...and Being Venser one of my favorite neo-Walkers I couldn't help but to yell: WHY DID VENSER HAVE TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO DIE!...Kill that Damn JACE!...and Bang he was banned So it was a happy but sad day... Blue is just a little weaker than it was before...but White is there to back it up...XD [/quote] Yea, that made me sad. And white is always there to back up blue. As is black. They are its ally colors for a reason. Personally black has a lot of cool toys so I'm looking forward to seeing the U/B control decks that get made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1310004070' post='5333714'] Yea, that made me sad. And white is always there to back up blue. As is black. They are its ally colors for a reason. Personally black has a lot of cool toys so I'm looking forward to seeing the U/B control decks that get made. [/quote] I also Miss the days of Counterburn...as anyoing as that deck was...XD Wonder if new Chandra will open the gates to a new CounterBurn deck in standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1310004070' post='5333714'] Yea, that made me sad. And white is always there to back up blue. As is black. They are its ally colors for a reason. Personally black has a lot of cool toys so I'm looking forward to seeing the U/B control decks that get made. [/quote] I can actually run Rune-Scarred in Big Blue. Drowned Catacomb ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｌａｚｉｎｇ ＭＡＲＳ' timestamp='1310045116' post='5334878'] I can actually run Rune-Scarred in Big Blue. Drowned Catacomb ftw [/quote] Don't if you are actually putting Double Black Mana Spells you better fix your mana sources better than just adding dual lands...coz you won't always get them... This mean: This isn't like Yugimonz where you can Splash things as easily. Also...try to go with a smaller mana curve in U/B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1310047870' post='5334940'] Don't if you are actually putting Double Black Mana Spells you better fix your mana sources better than just adding dual lands...coz you won't always get them... This mean: This isn't like Yugimonz where you can Splash things as easily. Also...try to go with a smaller mana curve in U/B [/quote] I was thinking along the lines of: 4 Drowned Catacomb 8 Swamp The Rest Is Islands I dunno :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｌａｚｉｎｇ ＭＡＲＳ' timestamp='1310048029' post='5334948'] I was thinking along the lines of: 4 Drowned Catacomb 8 Swamp The Rest Is Islands I dunno :s [/quote] Seems fair... Oh there is also: Darkslick Shores But you should really try to...go for less costy spells coz you are aiming control with those colors...and need always cheap answers to most things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1310048184' post='5334954'] Seems fair... But you should really try to...go for less costy spells coz you are aiming control with those colors...and need always cheap answers to most things [/quote] Ponder, Cancel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1310048184' post='5334954'] Seems fair... Oh there is also: Darkslick Shores But you should really try to...go for less costy spells coz you are aiming control with those colors...and need always cheap answers to most things [/quote] Q4E. [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｌａｚｉｎｇ ＭＡＲＳ' timestamp='1310048251' post='5334956'] Ponder, Cancel [/quote] While Ponder is cheap, it isn't an answer. It helps you find answers, but you need more answers. Also, Cancel is bad. Counterspells aren't good in Standard if they cost more than two mana. At the very least, use Stoic Rebuttal instead of Cancel: it's the same thing as Cancel but can possibly cost less. Answer cards include Doom Blade and Go for the Throat. You should be running those kinds of things in U/B Control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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