White Void Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Wielder of the Dragon Flame Sword FIRE/Warrior/4/1800/1200/Effect: When you Normal Summon a monster, except "Wielder of the Dragon Flame Sword", you can increase that monster's Level by 1 and have this card gain 300 ATK until the End Phase. [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110416083458/yugioh/images/e/e2/WielderoftheDragonFlameSwordGENF-JP-C.jpg[/img] For awhile I thought this guy was rather horrid due to thinking his effect was once per turn, then I realized it isn't. In Xyz Gadgets this turns your Gadgets to Level 5 which let you go into Tiras and Adreus, who are arguably superior to any Rank 4 options at the moment. And in the future this will allow the deck to go into Volcasaurus and Freezerdon. He himself becomes a fine beatstick in the process. The best part is it doesn't require much of a change at all in the deck to run him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1309992717' post='5333120'] who are arguably superior to any Rank 4 options at the moment. [/quote] Vylon Disigma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｌａｚｉｎｇ ＭＡＲＳ' timestamp='1309992783' post='5333124'] Vylon Disigma [/quote] I'd rather go into Adreus with 2 Gadgets and take care of an enemy monster instantly than go into Disigma for 3 to get rid of a threat. Adreus and Tiras run over Stardust and Shi En, Disigma can't in a situation where that might somehow matter. Disigma is very good but 2 Material Rank 5s > 3 Material Rank 4s IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Lets see... Your field has this + Ultimate Offering Summon Gadget + This@2100 Summon Gadget + This@2400 Summon Gadget + This@2700 Disigma + This ^Repeat twice^ Field has 3 Disigmas + This@4500 Hurray for ridiculously situational combos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Wait this misses the timing with Gadgets doesn't it...just noticed the ominous "you can". Dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1309993285' post='5333138'] Adreus and Tiras run over Stardust and Shi En, Disigma can't in a situation where that might somehow matter.[/quote] Disigma can simply absord Stardust or Shien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1309996162' post='5333250'] Disigma can simply [font="Book Antiqua"][size="6"][b]OM NOM NOM [/b][/size][/font]Stardust or Shien [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1309992717' post='5333120'] Wielder of the Dragon Flame Sword FIRE/Warrior/4/1800/1200/Effect: When you Normal Summon a monster, except "Wielder of the Dragon Flame Sword", [b]you can increase that monster's Level by 1[/b] and have this card gain 300 ATK until the End Phase. [/quote] So if you want this to have immense attack and still pull rank 4s with Gadget exceed, you are not reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1309996667' post='5333276'] So if you want this to have immense attack and still pull rank 4s with Gadget exceed, you are not reading. [/quote] Basically we were all dumb for a few minutes. Of course Disigma wont work, as the Gadgets will all be level 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1309997071' post='5333313'] Basically we were all dumb for a few minutes. Of course Disigma wont work, as the Gadgets will all be level 5. [/quote] You miss the timing with Wielder of the Dragon Flame Sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='BehindTheMask' timestamp='1309998103' post='5333385'] You miss the timing with Wielder of the Dragon Flame Sword. [/quote] I [i]just[/i] noticed the "you can" part. ........... ................ [size="5"][b]DAMN IT KONAMI.[/b][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1309998243' post='5333398'] I [i]just[/i] noticed the "you can" part. ........... ................ [size="5"][b]DAMN IT KONAMI.[/b][/size] [/quote] Except both effects have the exact same timing, so I don't think it misses because they'd both activate. It would be like if you destroyed a monster that had an optional "When" effect when destroyed, and then used a Meklord's effect. Ruling guys, come correct me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1309998856' post='5333438'] [b]Except both effects have the exact same timing, so I don't think it misses because they'd both activate.[/b] It would be like if you destroyed a monster that had an optional "When" effect when destroyed, and then used a Meklord's effect. Ruling guys, come correct me. [/quote] I believe Miror B. is quite correct. When two Crystal Beasts are destroyed at the same time, you can crystallize them both. This is the same scenario. They probably should have never invented "missing the timing" in the first place so that they could get rid of all these situations. I'm not sure about his card. In a deck without tons of Normal Summons, you can Normal summon a Level 3, raise it to a Level 4, and then Xyz into Utopia. In any other case without a Normal Summoning spammer, a conditionally 2100 ATK monster with 1800 original ATK doesn't really seem that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1310006515' post='5333851'] I believe Miror B. is quite correct. When two Crystal Beasts are destroyed at the same time, you can crystallize them both. This is the same scenario. [/quote] Actually, Crystal Beasts say "If", so they cannot miss timing. Plus they have more of a condition than an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Borg Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 For the last time, activations can never interfere with timing, only effects. You can get both this and a gadget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Rusty Shackleford' timestamp='1310007327' post='5333878'] For the last time, activations can never interfere with timing, only effects. You can get both this and a gadget. [/quote] So I'm right? *fistpumps* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Borg Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Exactly. Many don't understand this. I am making an article about this now to post later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I keep forgetting Gadgets are optional lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='BehindTheMask' timestamp='1310012681' post='5334130'] I keep forgetting Gadgets are optional lol. [/quote] I don't know why you're mentioning this, timing isn't effected by "if" clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I hate this card. Why? Because IRL, I opened a GENF pack and- Big Jaws Skull Kraken [b]Wielder of the Dragon Flame Sword[/b] Aqua Jet Urchin Bomb [img]http://blog-imgs-17-origin.fc2.com/z/a/s/zassyokukei/zexal+11+10_convert_20110622220814.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - PAIN' timestamp='1310013157' post='5334156'] I hate this card. Why? Because IRL, I opened a GENF pack and- Big Jaws Skull Kraken [b]Wielder of the Dragon Flame Sword[/b] Aqua Jet Urchin Bomb [img]http://blog-imgs-17-origin.fc2.com/z/a/s/zassyokukei/zexal+11+10_convert_20110622220814.jpg[/img] [/quote] Not a Shark card? Heh And no, Gadgets and this won't miss the timing. They both activate when a monster (the Gadget) is Normal Summoned. They'll chain together in the order you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 It's Jack Rhakan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1310018256' post='5334399']And no, Gadgets and this won't miss the timing. They both activate when a monster (the Gadget) is Normal Summoned. They'll chain together in the order you want. [/quote] REALLY!?!?!?!? I'M COMING OHHHHHHHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - PAIN' timestamp='1310018627' post='5334413'] REALLY!?!?!?!? I'M COMING OHHHHHHHH [/quote] We're on a site for 12 year olds. Keep it over pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1310018701' post='5334416'] We're on a site for 12 year olds. Keep it over pm. [/quote] My favorite card is Raging Earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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