EHERO Andrew Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 if I have let's say rainbow dragon removed from play, can I special summon him to my side of the field with return from the different dimension? My argument: well, since rd is removed, his effects don't apply right? So I GUESS you can special summon monsters like rd or raviel. The defense rests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 the card say "This card cannot be Special Summoned except from your hand while you have 7 "Crystal Beast" cards with different names on the field or in your Graveyard"... in other words, a nomi monster... so, the answer is no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Nomi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 and I guess you can't use substitution monsters like kots or bkots or hex-sealed fusion monster to summon rainbow neos or any other neos fusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 and I guess you can't use substitution monsters like kots or bkots or hex-sealed fusion monster to summon rainbow neos or any other neos fusion? Honestly, all your questions could be answered by just reading the card. Rainbow Neos: This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon with the above Fusion Material Monsters. Neos Fusions: This card can only be Special Summoned from your Fusion Deck by returning the above cards you control to the Deck. Edit: Since you probably still won't see it, you can not use Fusion subs for Rainbow Neos or Neos Fusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 so it's a no? Sure they say "above" but does that really mean you can't use substutions where they are treated as a specific fusion material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 no and no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 sorry but I need more official proof that I can't use substitutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 if it says you can only use the cards mentioned above, YOU HAVE TO USE THE CARDS MENTIONED ABOVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fusion_Substitute_Monsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Oh well. At least metamorphesis probably will come back to semi limited on the ban list. Neos is the best monster to offer to summon other neos fusions like grand or dark neos since they are lv 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Meta will not come back. It's more broken now than ever with the new trap monsters :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Metamorphosis will stay baned. Meta + Metal Reflesct Slime = free CED.As for the RFTDD on a Rainbow Dragon, no, it won't work. Cards still havetheir Nomi effects while in the hand, deck, grave and RFG. This argumentremids me of something a noob tried to pull when he told me he couldsummon his Rainbow Dragon from the grave with call of the haunted :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 You cannot use Metamorphosis on a trap monsters, because its still treated as a trap card...... It will come back eventually, it is not even close to broken, its a -1. (though obviously good, because of Ryu Senshi and brain control) Also, if Rainbow dragon is Properly summoned, meaning you summoned him with his own effects (with the 7 different crystal beasts in the graveyard), you CAN prem him, you CAN use call on him, and if he is removed from play after being properly summoned, you CAN bring him back with RFTDD. Same goes for fusions, if they are summoned with the proper fusion monsters (no substitues at all, regardless of the fusion), you can use call, prem, or RFTDD on them. Rituals that are summoned with a spell card also can be prem'd and such... you all get the point. Proper summon = you can prem it, regardless of the effect, because it was already summoned with the effect once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 You cannot use Metamorphosis on a trap monsters' date=' because its still treated as a trap card...... It will come back eventually, it is not even close to broken, its a -1. (though obviously good, because of Ryu Senshi and brain control)[/quote'] No, you can. Because its also treated as a monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I think Meta should get out of the forbidden list and come into Semi-Limited or Unlimited. Besides, at least it would be easier to summon a Neos fusion (and equip Instant Neo Space with it). Meta is not that threatening. I mean, how are you going to bring out fusions like FHD (12 star) or BEUD (12 star) with one monster as a Tribute? Neos would work better. Since the first 6 fusions have an equal star level as the regular neos. If I were to summon Rainbow Neos with Meta, I would somehow bring out Winged Kuriboh Lv10 and use Meta to tribute Kuriboh and summon Rainbow Neos. There are lots of ways to do it. These would the best monsters to use for a tribute for Rainbow Neos: 1) Winged Kuriboh Lv102) Rainbow Dark Dragon (In a Dark-Attribute Deck)3) Rainbow Dragon (In a Crystal Bast Deck)4) Yubel (In a Yubel Deck) But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I think Meta should get out of the forbidden list and come into Semi-Limited or Unlimited. Besides' date=' at least it would be easier to summon a Neos fusion (and equip Instant Neo Space with it). Meta is not that threatening. I mean, how are you going to bring out fusions like FHD (12 star) or BEUD (12 star) with one monster as a Tribute? Neos would work better. Since the first 6 fusions have an equal star level as the regular neos.[/quote']So you want Metamorphisis back to help out your deck? Way to be completely selfish. Metamorphisis back now would mean who ever draws it first with Metal Reflect Slimde/Dark Armed Dragon/Dark Creator/Yubel/DMoC on the field wins the game. If I were to summon Rainbow Neos with Meta, I would somehow bring out Winged Kuriboh Lv10 and use Meta to tribute Kuriboh and summon Rainbow Neos. There are lots of ways to do it. These would the best monsters to use for a tribute for Rainbow Neos: 1) Winged Kuriboh Lv102) Rainbow Dark Dragon (In a Dark-Attribute Deck)3) Rainbow Dragon (In a Crystal Bast Deck)4) Yubel (In a Yubel Deck) But that's just me. Awesome. Guess what, while you'd be using that simple strategy, pretty much every deck would be OTKable. The speed that decks have now-a-days would make duels last for maybe 4 turns max if meta was semi-d/unlimitied, and Cyber fusions were still allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I think Meta should get out of the forbidden list and come into Semi-Limited or Unlimited. Besides' date=' at least it would be easier to summon a Neos fusion (and equip Instant Neo Space with it). Meta is not that threatening. I mean, how are you going to bring out fusions like FHD (12 star) or BEUD (12 star) with one monster as a Tribute? Neos would work better. Since the first 6 fusions have an equal star level as the regular neos. If I were to summon Rainbow Neos with Meta, I would somehow bring out Winged Kuriboh Lv10 and use Meta to tribute Kuriboh and summon Rainbow Neos. There are lots of ways to do it. These would the best monsters to use for a tribute for Rainbow Neos: 1) Winged Kuriboh Lv102) Rainbow Dark Dragon (In a Dark-Attribute Deck)3) Rainbow Dragon (In a Crystal Bast Deck)4) Yubel (In a Yubel Deck) But that's just me.[/quote'] ROFLMAO. How about. Set mother Grizzly. When it dies, Special summon Koitsu from your deck. During your next turn, Summon Rainbow Neos by using Meta on Koitsu. Koitsu = 10 stars, water, 100 attack and defense. Though Cyber End Dragon would be a better idea. OH, And you could use metamorphosis on Moisture Creature (9 star, I counted) and special summon Magma Neos. SO COOL! Sarcasm Ends here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Correction: Koitsu has 200 ATK and 100 DEF. (not to dis you or anything). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Neos Fusions can't be summoned by Metamorphosis. Is it that hard for you to read the bloody cards? Anyhow, Metamorphosis can return when they ban the Cydra Fusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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