Dwarven King Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1314237299' post='5466901'] ...what happened to our opposition? This was probably the only good thread in General about a week ago and now it's dying because the other side can't argue any more? <___< [/quote] ...which side was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1314248167' post='5467202'] ...which side was that? [/quote] The side that was pro-circumcision. I'd argue but I need to do research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1314280893' post='5467583'] The side that was pro-circumcision. I'd argue but I need to do research. [/quote] Ah. I think I'm the only "I honestly don't give a rat's ass" person still posting in this thread. :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I didn't give a rat's ass then, and I don't give one now. There, I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 [i]pro-circumcision[/i] ...no. That side was pro-"let parents choose whether their child gets a circumcision", considering that the [i]other[/i] side is pro-"let children choose whether they get a circumcision". We aren't debating about the petty and negligible benefits and consequences of getting a circumcision - if we were, we would have hit a stalemate a l[i]oooooo[/i]ng time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Dark is right, it's like people who use the terms pro-choice and pro-abortion interchangeably. They are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Circumcision is a dick move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1314342043' post='5469874'] Circumcision is a dick move. [/quote] -.- tentacruel, pro-choice and pro-abortion are the same thing >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1314342043' post='5469874'] Circumcision is a dick move. [/quote] I c wat u did thar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 [i]pro-choice and pro-abortion are the same thing[/i] Pro-choice is taking the stance that a mother is allowed to choose whether she wants an abortion or not. Pro-abortion is taking the stance that abortions are completely moral and should bear no restrictions. Pro-abortion is the [i]logical opposite[/i] of pro-life: where pro-life says abortions are immoral and should never be done, pro-abortion says abortions are completely moral and should be done whenever, wherever, and to whoever. A lot of pro-choice people believe it is the mother's choice but still aren't comfortable with abortion itself - a lot of these people would like abortion to become fully legal but programs instituted that will counsel mothers that decide to not go through with an abortion. A lot of pro-choice people are [i]also[/i] pro-abortion, but it's quite obvious that the former term is more moderate while the latter term is almost bordering on liberal extremism (at least in America, which is just normal liberalism in Europe). The two terms cannot be used interchangeably because they simply do not mean the same thing. Pro-choice and pro-abortion supporters will probably both advocate the same bills and laws to be passed because they mutually share the belief that mothers, in the end, have the right to an abortion. However, their views on abortion as a [i]procedure[/i] are different. Take me, for example. I am completely and indefinitely pro-choice, but I would only say I'm pro-abortion in certain circumstances - for example, during the first trimester of pregnancy for most women, and any time at all during the pregnancy for a rape case or a case that affects the woman's health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Exactly. That's why I cringe when I see those, "Rejoice! Your mother was not pro-choice!" bumper stickers. It's unbelievably retarded. >_______> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1314370208' post='5470248'] Exactly. That's why I cringe when I see those, "Rejoice! Your mother was not pro-choice!" bumper stickers. It's unbelievably retarded. >_______> [/quote] Conservatives in America have... uh... [i]really weird ways[/i] of promoting their beliefs. Bumper stickers with illogical, irrational, and downright stupid claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 They think they're being clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 The only sticker on my car that I can think of is an OU emblem that my step dad put on it when it was his car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1314370208' post='5470248'] Exactly. That's why I cringe when I see those, "Rejoice! Your mother was not pro-choice!" bumper stickers. It's unbelievably retarded. >_______> [/quote] I laughed. Obviously just because someone is pro-choice doesn't mean they only get abortions, but if it were worded a bit better I think it'd be a lot more clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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