Junk Raver Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [center][center]Ok so these are the first cards i have produced in about 2 years(?) I am still flakey with the new OCG, thanx Konami... I will update this Thread whenever a new card is created, and i have prepared at least 15 custom images, so eventually there will be 15 in the collection. The first 2 are Exactly the same but obviously different [img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7990/14371m.jpg[/img][img]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4332/14371.jpg[/img] [color=#ff0000][b]Concept[/b][/color] [color=#ff0000][b]I created these back in late 2009, but never got round to showing them, however i am having to redo all their effects and OCG, as they were intended to be Synchro Support. Also all images have the same style of artwork creating a more realistic archetype.[/b][/color] [color=#ff0000][b]OCG / EFFECTS[/b][/color] [color=#ff0000][b]The first two have effects which let you place other copies of them face-up in your extra deck, this is good as they can swarm to the field, but bad as it takes up room in your 15 card extra deck limit. So they balance swarming with deck limiting[/b][/color][/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center]I will add the others as soon as [/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center][color=#ff0000][b]Junk Raver[/b][/color][/center][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 ah Junk Raver been a LONG time, hasn't it? ironically they're slightly like the gadget searching effects, just for summoning it DOES seem to make the accel-tech monsters very simple to get out though, but right now I'll give you the 9.9/10 until I can see where you plan to go with the rest of the set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1313185059' post='5437036'] ah Junk Raver been a LONG time, hasn't it? ironically they're slightly like the gadget searching effects, just for summoning it DOES seem to make the accel-tech monsters very simple to get out though, but right now I'll give you the 9.9/10 until I can see where you plan to go with the rest of the set [/quote] This really does show bias. :I Just because he's a moderator, it immediately makes it so he gets a 9.9/10 when no-one can tell whether these things are broken or not yet. Anyway, these looks exceedingly eh and not worth running right now. Need to see the Accel-Tech for any kind of rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='Feldt de Gracé' timestamp='1313185687' post='5437080'] This really does show bias. :I Just because he's a moderator, it immediately makes it so he gets a 9.9/10 when no-one can tell whether these things are broken or not yet. Anyway, these looks exceedingly eh and not worth running right now. Need to see the Accel-Tech for any kind of rating. [/quote] so I take it you do not believe in "benefit of the doubt"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1313185751' post='5437087'] so I take it you do not believe in "benefit of the doubt"? [/quote] Why should I give the benefit of the doubt to something which could be as broken as Tengu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 ah but you don't know that's going to happen now do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1313185916' post='5437096'] ah but you don't know that's going to happen now do you? [/quote] Why are you derailing the topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Homer Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 why has somebody made 2 more versions of tengu why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1313185916' post='5437096'] ah but you don't know that's going to happen now do you? [/quote] Because since the 2 first cards are already broken as Tengu, we can predict that the other cards would be pretty broken. Feldt de Gracé is right Ragnarok, all you're trying to do is kiss some moderator ass to win them to your side, since you know that most good members from RC already hate you and want to get rid of you. [quote name='Don Homer' timestamp='1313186261' post='5437117'] why has somebody made 2 more versions of tengu why [/quote] Because Junk Raver doesn't probably understand how broken cards like the cards he made are in this meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Homer Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 are you suggesting that a mod could be bad at yugioh pshaww sirrah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Mod's aren't expected to play Yugioh, much to my dismay. However, Raver does tend to like the Style a lot lol. Some of his pictures are strange but amusing. That being said, these cards are just too much =/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 If u would like to know, these effects were created before tengu's existance. And considering I am 22, have been playing and collecting cards since 2000, I know about the meta and about cards. It surprises me even to this day that people still do not seem to understand that this forum is not just about cards in the meta but about peoples card ideas, creations and a cards overall presentation. I am one of the people who stuck up for ragnarok as people dont seem to appreciate what he does, he gives his time to actually look and take in your card creations and your effort, alot dont bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='Junk Raver' timestamp='1313189002' post='5437320'] If u would like to know, these effects were created before tengu's existance. And considering I am 22, have been playing and collecting cards since 2000, I know about the meta and about cards. It surprises me even to this day that people still do not seem to understand that this forum is not just about cards in the meta but about peoples card ideas, creations and a cards overall presentation. I am one of the people who stuck up for ragnarok as people dont seem to appreciate what he does, he gives his time to actually look and take in your card creations and your effort, alot dont bother. [/quote] We would bother if they weren't so blatantly broken that creativity flies out of the window. So what if these were created before Tengu's existence? It doesn't stop them from being broken, I think you'll find. Also, if this entire deck is consistent around this entire kind of basis, I think it would be safe to say that the deck will be broken without restrictions. Also, just a hint. It's probably not the best idea to discuss Ragnarok in public, seeing as how he'll set moderators on you as soon as you say a single thing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 This topic is about your card and he posted a fallacy as well as spamming after the fact (so did Feldt so no harm no foul for now). This is about your cards. Which as is, are not balanced at all even by Normal Summon. You could easily tech these over Gadgets in situations. Hell, I know I would not to mention the easy drop of it all. As far as creativity goes? You're basically saying this: [font=courier new,courier,monospace][When card is summoned, place X card where it cannot be reached except by vague card]. [When this card is removed from the field, bring target card into play]. [/font] [font=courier new,courier,monospace][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]You're just saying "When this card is removed from the field, Special Summon X card." How is that creative? If anything it just adds to the genericness and tells us it's not counterable once this card is Normal Summoned. Sorry Raver, even as a creative input it's lackluster.[/font][/font] [font=courier new,courier,monospace][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]EDIT: Xander's post hidden because this isn't a topic about that, however it is still visible to moderators. Gotta love the new tools.[/font][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 So if I gave you a 1/10, would you deem your card a failure? Surely you wouldnt post a card unless you were happy with it, and anothers personal opinion shouldnt affect that in the slightest. And ive been on this site for 4 years so I know what people get upto. My cards are always, quite frankly, bizarre. They are like that to demonstrate the thought and creativity that goes into them, not always meta- style, as meta changes all the time, whos to say what really is and isnt "realistic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='Junk Raver' timestamp='1313189918' post='5437378'] So if I gave you a 1/10, would you deem your card a failure? Surely you wouldnt post a card unless you were happy with it, and anothers personal opinion shouldnt affect that in the slightest. And ive been on this site for 4 years so I know what people get upto. My cards are always, quite frankly, bizarre. They are like that to demonstrate the thought and creativity that goes into them, not always meta- style, as meta changes all the time, whos to say what really is and isnt "realistic". [/quote] But the thing is that your cards, in this case anyway, are exceedingly poorly designed as they do the job of one of the most broken cards in the game except they just get stronger and stronger. And to add to something... You realize the entire point of this section is to be realistic and PLAYABLE, yes? Which means you HAVE to take critique which can further develop your understanding and skills. That's like posting a piece of artwork online, reading a bunch of comments on how it can be bettered, then going "NO IT'S PERFECT I DON'T NEED YOUR OPINIONS BECAUSE MINE'S BETTER." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='Feldt de Gracé' timestamp='1313190185' post='5437391'] But the thing is that your cards, in this case anyway, are exceedingly poorly designed as they do the job of one of the most broken cards in the game except they just get stronger and stronger. And to add to something... You realize the entire point of this section is to be realistic and PLAYABLE, yes? Which means you HAVE to take critique which can further develop your understanding and skills. That's like posting a piece of artwork online, reading a bunch of comments on how it can be bettered, then going "NO IT'S PERFECT I DON'T NEED YOUR OPINIONS BECAUSE MINE'S BETTER."[/quote] haha lol so in this entire thread can you find me a statement ive said that refers to my card being perfect, have I actually knocked any critque on my cards? No lol. As ive been reading ive been jottin down suggestions made and am currentlyy scannin my image archives and puttin everythin to good use, im a nicer calmer less bigheaded person that Im made out to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 You seem to want to prove something though o_O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='Junk Raver' timestamp='1313190681' post='5437419'] haha lol so in this entire thread can you find me a statement ive said that refers to my card being perfect, have I actually knocked any critque on my cards? No lol. As ive been reading ive been jottin down suggestions made and am currentlyy scannin my image archives and puttin everythin to good use, im a nicer calmer less bigheaded person that Im made out to be [/quote] [b]Surely you wouldnt post a card unless you were happy with it, and anothers personal opinion shouldnt affect that in the slightest.[/b] This kind of implies that you won't be accepting to critique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Haha no I ment that with regard to ratings by ragnarok, as everyone has always complained about his ratings haha which is why that sentence follows the 1/10. LolzOn a related note im on wifi on my phone, its not letting me do paragraphs which would be helpful lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 [quote name='Junk Raver' timestamp='1313191243' post='5437434'] Haha no I ment that with regard to ratings by ragnarok, as everyone has always complained about his ratings haha which is why that sentence follows the 1/10. Lolz [/quote] Your phrasing could be a little better, as anyone else could take that as your direct reply towards them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 If u read up above, massive fingers on a small touchscreen phone at half midnight when uve been drinking with your housemates, its not easy to phrase things right haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Homer Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 oh look i'm going to post some actual fixes put a "banish 1 card from your hand" cost on the first effect of both guys or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 How about, changing "leaves the field" to "destroyed". If that was the case, their effects wouldnt be activated if they were: returned to the hand, returned to the deck, banished or detatched. AND if they were, the 2nd would be stuck face-up in the extra-deck. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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