evilfusion Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Deck has been almost completely revamped. Performs quite well (in non-meta settings) [b]Monsters: 18[/b] 1 Skystarray 3 Deep Sea Diva 3 Airorca 1 Shark Sucker 3 Tour Guide 3 Wingtortoise 2 Lost Blue Breaker 1 Sangan 1 Flyfang [b]Spells: 12[/b] 3 Gold Sarcophagus 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 1 Heavy Storm 1 Monster Reborn 1 Dark Hole 1 Mind Control 1 Pot of Avarice 1 Enemy Controller 1 Surface [b]Traps: 10[/b] 1 Solemn Judgment 2 Solemn Warning 2 Dimensional Prison 1 Mirror Force 1 Torrential Tribute 2 Fiendish Chain 1 Call of the Haunted [b]Extra: 15[/b] 1 Black Ray Lancer 2 Leviair 2 Number 17 1 Number 34 2 Ally of Justice Catastor 1 TG Hyper Librarian 1 Sea Dragon Lord Gishilnodon 1 Brionac 1 Black Rose Dragon 1 Stardust Dragon 1 Scrap Dragon 1 Trishula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Re-did deck to some extents. Now I need to figure out how to fix it up for the format change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Swap the 3 banned cards with Heavy and two Simorgh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Okay, Trunade -> Heavy was obvious. Dark Simorgh, though? Sure, there's plenty of Wind and a few Dark but...hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1314497212' post='5473741']Okay, Trunade -> Heavy was obvious. Dark Simorgh, though? Sure, there's plenty of Wind and a few Dark but...hmm...[/quote] I just mentioned him because I tend to see him quite bunch in Banishark builds(or as Konami has decided to call them, Generation Fish), being as he can allow further use of Sangan with Leviar and slowing down the opponent's spells for one turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1314497717' post='5473759'] I just mentioned him because I tend to see him quite bunch in Banishark builds(or as Konami has decided to call them, Generation Fish), being as he can allow further use of Sangan with Leviar and slowing down the opponent's spells for one turn. [/quote] Simorgh doesn't do squat against regular spells :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Meant traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1314501390' post='5473915'] Meant traps. [/quote] He locks down any traps that weren't set ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 I'll probably pass on Simorgh, but consider the varient in the future. Any other suggestions? I'd be short a Pot of Avarice and Oppression come the format change, so is there other soures of recycling or SS control that would benefit the deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Surface? I know it doesn't exactly recycle, but idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Surface could bring back Lost Blue, Diva, or Shark Sucker. Not sure if that number of targets would be worthwhile, but it's not a bad suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha Love Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 You are 1 card short of a deck. Instead of 18 monsters you have 17... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 [quote name='Elemental Dragon' timestamp='1314525976' post='5474435'] You are 1 card short of a deck. Instead of 18 monsters you have 17... [/quote] Whoops. Forgot to list Flyfang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 MONSTERS -1 Wingtortoise = Three makes dead draws happen a bit to much. .-. -3 Tour Guides = Unless you give me a REALLY good reason as to why you're using it, I'll keep telling you to take it out. Tour Guide is overused in my opinion. -1 Sangan = Read Tour Guide +2 Spearfish Soldier = Gets a boost from all your banished monsters +1 Big Jaws = 1800 three star that banishes itself, umm...yes! +1 Flyfang = Two is good +1 Piercing Moray = I'll explain this in the spells. Look for Dimensional Fissure SPELLS -1 Gold Sarcophagus = I don't see the point of two. -1 Giant Trunade = Swapping for Heavy -1 Monster Reborn -2 Pot of Avarice +1 Heavy Storm +2 Dimensional Fissures = Umm...do I need to explain this? Activate this card, then use Piercing Moray's effect. And now you're setting yourself up for other cards in your deck. +1 Fish and Kicks +2 Fish and Swaps TRAPS -1 Royal Oppression -1 Call of the Haunted -1 Solemn Warning (maybe) +1 Underworld Egg Clutch +1 Oh F!sh! (two if you take Solemn Warning out) Well, there is my noobish opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1314619421' post='5476927'] MONSTERS -1 Wingtortoise = Three makes dead draws happen a bit to much. .-. [b]Wingtortoise is deck's essential card[/b] -3 Tour Guides = Unless you give me a REALLY good reason as to why you're using it, I'll keep telling you to take it out. Tour Guide is overused in my opinion. [b]Who cares it's overused. Go Leviathan, detach Sangan, searc Diva/Tortoise/Orca/good stuff. Insteaf, you can go Leviair and do some s*** with banished stuff.[/b] -1 Sangan = Read Tour Guide [b]Read Tour Guide[/b] +2 Spearfish Soldier = Gets a boost from all your banished monsters [b]It's only a cheap, stupid beatstick[/b] +1 Big Jaws = 1800 three star that banishes itself, umm...yes! [b]-1s that don't give any actual advantage are funny.[/b] +1 Flyfang = Two is good [b]Flyfang isn't that good, even @1[/b] +1 Piercing Moray = I'll explain this in the spells. Look for Dimensional Fissure [b]It's only a cheap beatstick. I'd rather use my WATERs to Synchro/Xyz, thank you very much[/b] SPELLS -1 Gold Sarcophagus = I don't see the point of two. [b]First of all, it should be @3[/b] -1 Giant Trunade = Swapping for Heavy [b]Makes sense, but it's bloody obvious ._.[/b] -1 Monster Reborn [b]...why would he drop one of best staples in game?[/b] -2 Pot of Avarice [b]Why would he drop all of them? Sure, he has to drop 1 because banlist, but Avarice is amazing here[/b] +1 Heavy Storm [b]Makes sense, but it's bloody obvious ._.[/b] +2 Dimensional Fissures = Umm...do I need to explain this? Activate this card, then use Piercing Moray's effect. And now you're setting yourself up for other cards in your deck. [b]It conflicts with Wingtortoise etc. Terrible card in here[/b] +1 Fish and Kicks [b]Dead draws too much for me[/b] +2 Fish and Swaps [b]2 dead draws a lot.[/b] TRAPS -1 Royal Oppression [b]Makes sense, but it's bloody obvious ._.[/b] -1 Call of the Haunted [b]...why? It's a great revival card[/b] -1 Solemn Warning (maybe) [b]...WHAT *explodes*[/b] +1 Underworld Egg Clutch [b]With Sangan, Duality and Sarco, it's unneeded[/b] +1 Oh F!sh (two if you take Solemn Warning out) [b]It's not really that good. Dies to MST, Tornado, Heavy etc. Being non-chainable hurts its playablity[/b] Well, there is my noobish opinion. [/quote] Comments in bold tl;dr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 You sir do not know how to run a proper Bani-Fish deck. .-. Half the monsters are actual Bani-Fish monsters, and just about every spell and trap can be considered staples. This was called a BaniShark (or whatever name you want to use) deck, so I gave suggestions to improve said deck. Now, if he were to say this was a deck that is based solely on getting your extra deck out, then obviously we wouldn't go with my suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1314623058' post='5476993'] You sir do not know how to run a proper Bani-Fish deck. .-. [/quote] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M&feature=player_embedded You're f***ing kidding me, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1314623058' post='5476993'] You sir do not know how to run a proper Bani-Fish deck. .-. Half the monsters are actual Bani-Fish monsters, and just about every spell and trap can be considered staples. This was called a BaniShark (or whatever name you want to use) deck, so I gave suggestions to improve said deck. Now, if he were to say this was a deck that is based solely on getting your extra deck out, then obviously we wouldn't go with my suggestions. [/quote] Your suggestions just made the deck worse. Big Jaws, really? That was too stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Read the edited part of my post.[quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1314623299' post='5477000'] Your suggestions just made the deck worse. Big Jaws, really? That was too stupid. [/quote] The whole point of a damn Bani-Fish deck is to get your monsters Banished. Herp derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote] Half the monsters are actual Bani-Fish monsters, and just about every spell and trap can be considered staples. This was called a BaniShark (or whatever name you want to use) deck, so I gave suggestions to improve said deck. Now, if he were to say this was a deck that is based solely on getting your extra deck out, then obviously we wouldn't go with my suggestions [/quote] Just because it's Banisharks, it doesn't mean you should play the terrible ones. Only good cards Banisharks have are Airorca, Wingtortoise, and maybe Skystarray and Sharksucker. Others are flat out terrible. If you're playing other Banisharks than the said 4, you're doing it really wrong. It's like saying that because someone plays Samurais, he should play all of them because it's Six Samurai deck. It's f***ed up logic. You're supposed to play good cards. Playing bad cards because they fit the theme is f***ing stupid logic used by anime characters. So yeah, on the behalfs of this thread and good name of Banisharks, I ask you to gtfo and take your fail with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1314623339' post='5477001'] The whole point of a damn Bani-Fish deck is to get your monsters Banished. Herp derp. [/quote] While gaining advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1314623508' post='5477006'] While gaining advantage [/quote] This. Big Jaws is terrible because it's a -1 for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Noel Vermillion' timestamp='1314623483' post='5477003'] Just because it's Banisharks, it doesn't mean you should play the terrible ones. Only good cards Banisharks have are Airorca, Wingtortoise, and maybe Skystarray and Sharksucker. Others are flat out terrible. If you're playing other Banisharks than the said 4, you're doing it really wrong. It's like saying that because someone plays Samurais, he should play all of them because it's Six Samurai deck. It's f***ed up logic. You're supposed to play good cards. Playing bad cards because they fit the theme is f***ing stupid logic used by anime characters. So yeah, on the behalfs of this thread and good name of Banisharks, I ask you to gtfo and take your fail with you. [/quote] *facepalms* They become good when ran with said cards. Are you really that f***ing arrogant? :\ Oh look, a guide that pretty much explains how to run a proper Bani-Fish deck. And...wait...what's that? The guide points out things that I said? No way! O: [url="http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=22524655"]http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=22524655[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1314624064' post='5477019'] *facepalms* They become good when ran with said cards. Are you really that f***ing arrogant? :\ [/quote] No, they're still bad. And I'm not f***ing arrogant, I'm a good player. [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1314624064' post='5477019'] Oh look, a guide that pretty much explains how to run a proper Bani-Fish deck. And...wait...what's that? The guide points out things that I said? No way! O: [url="http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=22524655"]http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=22524655[/url] [/quote] It's Pojo, so I'm pretty sure it sucks, but I will give up some of my precious time to read over that piece of bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Guides to certain decks usually give SEVERAL ways to run them. And you saying "The point of banisharks is to banish" is like saying the point to Infernities is to go handless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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