Master White Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center]Well, I'm trying out my first #, I've made Xyz's, but not numbers.... [/center][/center] [center][center][b]Notice:[/b] [i]I'm Using New OCG for people that still don't know about it....[/i] [/center][/center] [center][center][b]Showcase People[/b][i]: It is not 2 layers pasted together, look close enough, you can tell that the monsters are merged....[/i] [/center][/center] [center][center][i]Fractal(Background) Credit: Me[/i] [/center][/center] [center][center][i]Render Credits:Yin[/i] [/center][/center] [center][center][i]Template Credit: Judas/Touma[/i] [/center][/center] [center][center][img]http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5376/unled4i.jpg[/img] [/center][/center] [center][center][b]Lore:[/b][/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center]3 level 3 monsters. During either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material Monsters: Your monsters are not destroyed by battle or card effects; You take no Battle Damage until the End Phase.[/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center]Critique, rate, hate, whatever [/center][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Okay then. Two questions: 1. Why rank 3 when it is completely obvious that the card art is Exarion Universe (Level 4) and Voltic Bicorn (Level 7)? 2. Is it a rider if it is part of the horse? Okay 3 questions: 3. If the effect removes 4 underlayed units, why in the world do you need 5 to bring it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 5 monsters is way to much. 3 is even unbearable for some cards. That immediately needs to be toned down. I'm trying to think of some feasible combination that you could use to utilize this card, and I'm drawing a blank here. Not even Blackwings can swarm that fast, and they have an average of about three to four level monsters (and I'm talking about the good ones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1314589660' post='5476513'] 5 monsters is way to much. 3 is even unbearable for some cards. That immediately needs to be toned down. I'm trying to think of some feasible combination that you could use to utilize this card, and I'm drawing a blank here. Not even Blackwings can swarm that fast, and they have an average of about three to four level monsters (and I'm talking about the good ones). [/quote] Gateway; Mizuho; Shinai; Mizuho; Shinai; Mizuho. But honestly, if that were your hand (which is almost impossible in itself), why go for this card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 @Aggro: 1st: 7-4 = 3 2nd: Good point there, I could change the name, it was just there for Reference 3rd: Look at the ATK/DEF-To make it Balanced....and so it will stay on the field, or otherwise I'd have to add in the part that if no Xzy material monsters, it destroyed.... @Devil's Advocate: Well, lets say I make it so you can use cards from your hand for Xyz Material cards....Original effect did, but I changed it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='White Archaic Dæmon' timestamp='1314590183' post='5476530']@Aggro: 1st: 7-4 = 3 2nd: Good point there, I could change the name, it was just there for Reference 3rd: Look at the ATK/DEF-To make it Balanced....and so it will stay on the field, or otherwise I'd have to add in the part that if no Xzy material monsters, it destroyed.... @Devil's Advocate: Well, lets say I make it so you can use cards from your hand for Xyz Material cards....Original effect did, but I changed it....[/quote] 1. (7-4)*2=6. What's your point? BTW, putting the Rank at 6 and lowering the number of material required would help this card. 2. Yes! Agreement! That never happens! 3. You don't have to give it the self-destruction effect. Utopia is really one of the only cards that does that. Putting it at 5 XYZ material doesn't make it balanced. It makes it UPed. As the song says: 3 is the magic number. XYZ with more than 3 materials won't be played, even if you can use cards from the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 @Aggro: My point is that I like to make powerful low level/Rank cards, so leave that is, okay....You see, if you knew me long enough, you'd know almost all my cards consisted of level 4 or lower unless I was planning a "God" card..... My Cards (Unless God or Overpowered) usually are level 4 or lower.... So, hows this... 3 level 3 monsters. During either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material Monsters: Your monsters are not destroyed by battle or card effects; You take no Battle Damage until the End Phase. As seeing all yz's are op'd, might as well make this slightly op'd, right? Or it wouldn't be used.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='White Archaic Dæmon' timestamp='1314591418' post='5476566'] @Aggro: My point is that I like to make powerful low level/Rank cards, so leave that is, okay....You see, if you knew me long enough, you'd know almost all my cards consisted of level 4 or lower unless I was planning a "God" card..... My Cards (Unless God or Overpowered) usually are level 4 or lower.... So, hows this... 3 level 3 monsters. During either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material Monsters: Your monsters are not destroyed by battle or card effects; You take no Battle Damage until the End Phase. As seeing all yz's are op'd, might as well make this slightly op'd, right? Or it wouldn't be used.... [/quote] That's fine. I like the card (besides the image, but that's another story entirely). And Exarion Universe was in the first tin I ever bought (traded it the next week; it sucked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 @Aggro: Your not alone, I traded it to my cousin, you got it wet by accident, and I traded back for it, then showed a friend, got the same original one from a friend as a trade.... Well, i'm going to update and head off 2 bed, its 10:30 PM here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MibeR Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Your monsters are not destroyed by battle or card effects;?? Its only for that turn am i correct? If yes, it is fine. If not, well yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 @Syns: Yes, you detach 1, its only for that turn. So, you do at up to 3 times, and no more....Basically, a stronger Waboku in monster form was my goal.... Some more comments please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MibeR Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Shoulda lower the ATK to around 2700 and DEF around 2500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 okay, I'll do this when I get back frm work, Atk/Def: 2800/2000 DEF really isn't my thing, so I can lower it all I want, even though I get tired of those cards like stumbling and Leel Limit Area B..... Remember though: These cards have to be slightly op'd or they will not be used at all....B/c, who would want to use a Balanced Xyz instead of using an Op'd yz which exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 The background isn't a fractal, and it doesn't go with the render at all. The blend could be a lot better. A defensive strategy is okay. But for more of a stall deck, i am not into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 [quote name='Daemon' timestamp='1314627727' post='5477129'] The background isn't a fractal, and it doesn't go with the render at all. The blend could be a lot better. A defensive strategy is okay. But for more of a stall deck, i am not into it. [/quote] Well, at least you commented a little on the card itself, if you don't like the pic, then find a (New One) or don't mention a thing about it, got it.....sheesh....and Background is 2 a Fracatl, if not, then what is it, B/c I made it myself, using lighting and effects, smudge, line, and all other famous tools on Gimp..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 very good White, though it's slightly still on the OPed end not destroyed in battle or no battle damage are both good, but I'd recommend you choose only ONE of the two effects that turn, not both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [size=4]Well, I tried, at least I can say I tried to get you all to think differently......[/size] I'll make them balanced, even though that [size=5]NO ONE WOULD EVER WANT TO USE IT B/C IT WAS BALANCED...[/size] [size=4]Quite Frankly, I'd use it now and it could fool people still, b/c Xyz's are horribly powerful, op'd IMO.[/size] [size=4]If it was me, i'd build myself a deck that would win, b/c yugioh is so ****ing expenisve nowadays that I'd neew to win, but in order to do that, I'd need money, IRONY......[/size] [size=4]Think About it, am I going to build a Deck of a weak and/or balanced card or am I going to make a deck off a op'd card before it gets banned so I can win......O.o...[/size] [size=4]If i'm sounding rude or mean, I'm not trying to, but not every man can be pleased and from now on, I'll do like acting, if I like, thats the only one that counts.....[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [quote name='White Archaic Dæmon' timestamp='1314676700' post='5478971'] [size=4]If it was me, i'd build myself a deck that would win, b/c yugioh is so ****ing expenisve nowadays that I'd neew to win, but in order to do that, I'd need money, IRONY......[/size] [/quote] Duality; emmersblade; Abs Zero; Naturia Pinapple; EHERO Gaia; Krystia, etc, etc, are all easy to get now for cheap. Solemn Warning and, more than likely, Fossil Dyna Whatsitsnamenow are coming out as supers in the next tin. (We may even get: Scrap Dragon; Brio; or Trish; though my bet's on something more like Infernity Barrier) It's getting cheaper stop complaining. >=| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Well, it's a nice idea, but as the way its worded, this part of the effect: "Your monsters are not destroyed by battle or card effects" is permanent, which would make this thing beyond broken. For that matter, the OCG is also off, since effects are supposed to be worded: Time: Cost; Effect, OR, if there's no cost - Time: Effect However, the way you have it is: Time: Effect; Another Effect For that matter, it should be worded as follows: During either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material: Your monsters are not destroyed by battle or card effects [b]and[/b] [b]y[/b]ou take no Battle Damage until the End Phase. With the fix, I like it - it's far more useful than any other 3x Level 3 Rank 3 Xyzs (namely Terror-Byte...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [quote name='Zextra' timestamp='1314677228' post='5478988'] With the fix, I like it - it's far more useful than any other 3x Level 3 Rank 3 Xyzs (namely Terror-Byte...) [/quote] Now all we need are some good 3x Level 1 Rank 1 XYZ that make me feel like using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [quote name='Zextra' timestamp='1314677228' post='5478988'] Well, it's a nice idea, but as the way its worded, this part of the effect: "Your monsters are not destroyed by battle or card effects" is permanent, which would make this thing beyond broken. For that matter, the OCG is also off, since effects are supposed to be worded: Time: Cost; Effect, OR, if there's no cost - Time: Effect However, the way you have it is: Time: Effect; Another Effect For that matter, it should be worded as follows: During either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material: Your monsters are not destroyed by battle or card effects [b]and[/b] [b]y[/b]ou take no Battle Damage until the End Phase. With the fix, I like it - it's far more useful than any other 3x Level 3 Rank 3 Xyzs (namely Terror-Byte...) [b]Well, i was actually really wondering that, I'm still new at this new at this OCG stuff, and even with the old, I would have trouble, so thank you....The fix you provided it what I was mainly wanting, thanks....[/b] [/quote] [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1314677396' post='5478991'] Now all we need are some good 3x Level 1 Rank 1 XYZ that make me feel like using them. [b]I was actually thinking on those, so your meaning an Xyz that requires 2 level 1 monsters? Yea, they are horrible, at least they are not to bad....[/b] [b]Prices:[/b] [b]Yea, go to generation force on yugiohmint and see the prices on the secret and ghost rare section, you will be overwhelmed.....[/b] [b][url="http://yugiohmint.com/store/360-generation-force-secret--ghost-rare-foil-cards"]http://yugiohmint.com/store/360-generation-force-secret--ghost-rare-foil-cards[/url][/b] [b]Plus, solidarity is still 71 dollars, and preferrable, if I'm going to duel, I want my cards to in near mint condition so it can blind them....lol....But seriously, so what if they bring out commons of the expenisve cards, right now, cards I want are to expensive, 20 dollars or lower for an Ice Barrier Deck will not work, sorry....not a competitive one....[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [quote name='White Archaic Dæmon' timestamp='1314680555' post='5479043'] [b]I was actually thinking on those, so your meaning an Xyz that requires 2 level 1 monsters? Yea, they are horrible, at least they are not to bad....[/b] [/quote] no, an XYZ that requires 3 Level 1 monsters. I don't like galaxy queen or baby trigon (actually, I love baby trigon, i'd never use it though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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